To the Godless American Church...
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You don't believe the Bible. The text does not say what you just said, even though you want it to mean what you just said. The text means exactly what it plainly says. You simply cannot accept it because it totally contradicts the theology you believe in.
Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
The strength of sin is the law!
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
S
You don't believe the Bible. The text does not say what you just said, even though you want it to mean what you just said. The text means exactly what it plainly says. You simply cannot accept it because it totally contradicts the theology you believe in.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Anyone who sins willfully (engages in evil on purpose) after having received a knowledge of the truth then there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but only a fearful expectation of judgement.
The text says NOT A WORD about returning to the Law of Moses.
The text also clearly refers to such a willful sinner as one who was SANCTIFIED BY THE BLOOD who then trod it underfoot. Not only that but the verses before Heb 10:26-29 describe the reconciliation dynamic by which we can be cleansed.
It is very clear what Heb 10:26-29 means to one who just reads it plainly.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Anyone who sins willfully (engages in evil on purpose) after having received a knowledge of the truth then there remains no more sacrifice for sins, but only a fearful expectation of judgement.
The text says NOT A WORD about returning to the Law of Moses.
The text also clearly refers to such a willful sinner as one who was SANCTIFIED BY THE BLOOD who then trod it underfoot. Not only that but the verses before Heb 10:26-29 describe the reconciliation dynamic by which we can be cleansed.
It is very clear what Heb 10:26-29 means to one who just reads it plainly.
Paul is speaking to the Hebrews who have been enlightened( introduced to the gospel) yet they are turning back to animal sacrifice. That's why he tells them that there no longer remains any sacrifice for sin. He is telling them that the animal sacrifices will no longer be enough since the true sacrifice has come. he is telling them that if they reject the true sacrifice there is no animal sacrifice that will save them.
Just look at it this way, Hebrews speaks of willful sin. Nearly every sin is willful. If a man commits adultery he did it of his own free will. He doesn't wake up in another woman's bed and wonder how he got there. If God didn't forgive willful sin, we would all be damned.
What part of this scripture do you not understand?
Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
The strength of sin is the law!
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Ro 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
The strength of sin is the law!
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
We are under grace which teaches...
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
We are delivered from the law, as I have written previously, unto the service of the Spirit.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Your focus is exclusively on this notion that the law is cancelled and thus there is no longer a standard which you have to meet, which is why you are opposed to Heb 10:26-29 and actually believe you can willfully sin and not surely die.
The law is not cancelled, it if ESTABLISHED THROUGH FAITH.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
A faith that WORKS BY LOVE.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
What is done away with is the Ministry of Righteousness THROUGH THE LAW.
Jesus Christ preached the standard God requires here...
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Mat 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
Mat 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
That is the standard.
Our hearts must be pure.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
The law is fulfilled through love.
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
M
Sin shall not have dominion over the real Christian because they are not under an EXTERNAL RULE set like the Law of Moses.
We are under grace which teaches...
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
We are delivered from the law, as I have written previously, unto the service of the Spirit.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Your focus is exclusively on this notion that the law is cancelled and thus there is no longer a standard which you have to meet, which is why you are opposed to Heb 10:26-29 and actually believe you can willfully sin and not surely die.
The law is not cancelled, it if ESTABLISHED THROUGH FAITH.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
A faith that WORKS BY LOVE.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
What is done away with is the Ministry of Righteousness THROUGH THE LAW.
Jesus Christ preached the standard God requires here...
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Mat 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
Mat 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
That is the standard.
Our hearts must be pure.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
The law is fulfilled through love.
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
We are under grace which teaches...
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
We are delivered from the law, as I have written previously, unto the service of the Spirit.
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Your focus is exclusively on this notion that the law is cancelled and thus there is no longer a standard which you have to meet, which is why you are opposed to Heb 10:26-29 and actually believe you can willfully sin and not surely die.
The law is not cancelled, it if ESTABLISHED THROUGH FAITH.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
A faith that WORKS BY LOVE.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Gal 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
What is done away with is the Ministry of Righteousness THROUGH THE LAW.
Jesus Christ preached the standard God requires here...
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Mat 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Mat 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Mat 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
Mat 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Mat 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
That is the standard.
Our hearts must be pure.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
The law is fulfilled through love.
Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
And the "willful" sin of Hebrews 10 is the sin of turning from grace back to the law (the strength of sin)
No sir, It does say what Mitspa says. read it in the original language and from several translations and you will see that we are telling you the truth.
Paul is speaking to the Hebrews who have been enlightened( introduced to the gospel) yet they are turning back to animal sacrifice. That's why he tells them that there no longer remains any sacrifice for sin. He is telling them that the animal sacrifices will no longer be enough since the true sacrifice has come. he is telling them that if they reject the true sacrifice there is no animal sacrifice that will save them.
Just look at it this way, Hebrews speaks of willful sin. Nearly every sin is willful. If a man commits adultery he did it of his own free will. He doesn't wake up in another woman's bed and wonder how he got there. If God didn't forgive willful sin, we would all be damned.
Paul is speaking to the Hebrews who have been enlightened( introduced to the gospel) yet they are turning back to animal sacrifice. That's why he tells them that there no longer remains any sacrifice for sin. He is telling them that the animal sacrifices will no longer be enough since the true sacrifice has come. he is telling them that if they reject the true sacrifice there is no animal sacrifice that will save them.
Just look at it this way, Hebrews speaks of willful sin. Nearly every sin is willful. If a man commits adultery he did it of his own free will. He doesn't wake up in another woman's bed and wonder how he got there. If God didn't forgive willful sin, we would all be damned.
You appeal to the "original language from several translations" and then go on with rhetoric which has NOTHING to do with what the text actually states.
It is always the same with people like you. You make bold claims with no substance.
The passage is a very plain reference to ongoing willful sin after having a received knowledge of the truth. Your petition that it is not is an obvious contradiction that even a child could see and it proves you do not actually believe what the Bible plainly states.
New International Version
If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,
New Living Translation
Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.
English Standard Version
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
New American Standard Bible
For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
King James Bible
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Holman Christian Standard Bible
For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
International Standard Version
For if we choose to go on sinning after we have learned the full truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
NET Bible
For if we deliberately keep on sinning after receiving the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins is left for us,
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For if a man shall sin by his will after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there is no sacrifice to be offered afterward for sins,
GOD'S WORD® Translation
If we go on sinning after we have learned the truth, no sacrifice can take away our sins.
Jubilee Bible 2000
For if we sin wilfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
King James 2000 Bible
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
American King James Version
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
American Standard Version
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,
Douay-Rheims Bible
For if we sin wilfully after having the knowledge of the truth, there is now left no sacrifice for sins,
Darby Bible Translation
For where we sin wilfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains any sacrifice for sins,
English Revised Version
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,
Webster's Bible Translation
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Weymouth New Testament
For if we wilfully persist in sin after having received the full knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains in reserve any other sacrifice for sins.
World English Bible
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more a sacrifice for sins,
Young's Literal Translation
For we -- wilfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth -- no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice,
There is no remaining sacrifice for the sins of an individual who receives a full knowledge of the truth (ie. experiential knowledge through regeneration) and then deliberately sins.
That is what the text states.
Now that does not mean that there is no mercy to be found, it simply means that no sacrifice is remaining for that individual, in other words they are under condemnation. To repent a second time is not to be taken for granted because sinning from a state of full knowledge is outright defiance to God, it is not an action rooted in any ignorance. Such a sin is extremely dangerous and it ought be something we NEVER do.
Yet such a warning means nothing to those under the religious delusion because they believe that the willful sin never stops anyway. If the willful sin never stops then how could willful sin nullify the sacrifice? This is why doctrines like Penal Substitution (Jesus paid the sin fine due) are DEADLY BEYOND BELIEF.
That is what the text states.
Now that does not mean that there is no mercy to be found, it simply means that no sacrifice is remaining for that individual, in other words they are under condemnation. To repent a second time is not to be taken for granted because sinning from a state of full knowledge is outright defiance to God, it is not an action rooted in any ignorance. Such a sin is extremely dangerous and it ought be something we NEVER do.
Yet such a warning means nothing to those under the religious delusion because they believe that the willful sin never stops anyway. If the willful sin never stops then how could willful sin nullify the sacrifice? This is why doctrines like Penal Substitution (Jesus paid the sin fine due) are DEADLY BEYOND BELIEF.
The willful sin of Hebrews 10 ..is clearly and without doubt the sin of unbelief (turning back to the law) ..which is addressed throughout the book of Hebrews...
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Hebrews 3:12 is a warning in regards to departing from the living God.
How does such a warning twist the plain meaning of...
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
... into a "turning back to the law" ???
The willful sin of Hebrews 10 ..is clearly and without doubt the sin of unbelief (turning back to the law) ..which is addressed throughout the book of Hebrews...
Honestly you are not worth responding to because you don't believe the Bible. Your foundation is opinion and rhetoric.
Up is not down just because you claim it is.
M
There is no remaining sacrifice for the sins of an individual who receives a full knowledge of the truth (ie. experiential knowledge through regeneration) and then deliberately sins.
That is what the text states.
Now that does not mean that there is no mercy to be found, it simply means that no sacrifice is remaining for that individual, in other words they are under condemnation. To repent a second time is not to be taken for granted because sinning from a state of full knowledge is outright defiance to God, it is not an action rooted in any ignorance. Such a sin is extremely dangerous and it ought be something we NEVER do.
Yet such a warning means nothing to those under the religious delusion because they believe that the willful sin never stops anyway. If the willful sin never stops then how could willful sin nullify the sacrifice? This is why doctrines like Penal Substitution (Jesus paid the sin fine due) are DEADLY BEYOND BELIEF.
That is what the text states.
Now that does not mean that there is no mercy to be found, it simply means that no sacrifice is remaining for that individual, in other words they are under condemnation. To repent a second time is not to be taken for granted because sinning from a state of full knowledge is outright defiance to God, it is not an action rooted in any ignorance. Such a sin is extremely dangerous and it ought be something we NEVER do.
Yet such a warning means nothing to those under the religious delusion because they believe that the willful sin never stops anyway. If the willful sin never stops then how could willful sin nullify the sacrifice? This is why doctrines like Penal Substitution (Jesus paid the sin fine due) are DEADLY BEYOND BELIEF.
That's CLEARLY the context of these passages..anyone should be able to see that?
Paul gave the WARNING...
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Act 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Night and day for three years with tears.
Paul was very serious in warning about the wolves who speak perverse things.
Perverse things like "you can sin and not surely die."
Jesus warned of wolves also...
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Peter contended for Christians to be DILIGENT that they be found in peace, WITHOUT SPOT, and BLAMELESS
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Peter then warned of those who twist the scriptures, especially Paul, in order to lead people away with the error of the wicked.
Jude warned of those who would turn the grace of God into lawlessness.
Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
If teaching people that they can sin and not surely die (ie. future sins forgiven in advance) because of grace does not pertain to this warning then nothing does.
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Act 20:30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Act 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
Night and day for three years with tears.
Paul was very serious in warning about the wolves who speak perverse things.
Perverse things like "you can sin and not surely die."
Jesus warned of wolves also...
Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Peter contended for Christians to be DILIGENT that they be found in peace, WITHOUT SPOT, and BLAMELESS
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
Peter then warned of those who twist the scriptures, especially Paul, in order to lead people away with the error of the wicked.
Jude warned of those who would turn the grace of God into lawlessness.
Jud 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jud 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
If teaching people that they can sin and not surely die (ie. future sins forgiven in advance) because of grace does not pertain to this warning then nothing does.
Yes ONLY Christ is acceptable before God...there is no other sacrifice and to turn back to the law is to reject Him and The Spirit of Grace..."willful" sin
That's CLEARLY the context of these passages..anyone should be able to see that?
That's CLEARLY the context of these passages..anyone should be able to see that?
The text says not a single word about "turning back to the law."
You want it to be about "turning back to the law" because you obviously refuse to believe it is about "willfully sinning after coming to knowledge of the truth" and "being sanctified by the blood" (ie. having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.)
You don't believe the Bible.
You believe in a theology which contradicts much of the Bible which is why when certain texts are raised (like Heb 10:26-29) you are compelled to argue in favour for them not meaning what they actually say.
If I were to ask you,
Can you willfully sin and not surely die?
What would your answer be?
M
That is CLEARLY the context you want to believe.
The text says not a single word about "turning back to the law."
You want it to be about "turning back to the law" because you obviously refuse to believe it is about "willfully sinning after coming to knowledge of the truth" and "being sanctified by the blood" (ie. having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.)
You don't believe the Bible.
You believe in a theology which contradicts much of the Bible which is why when certain texts are raised (like Heb 10:26-29) you are compelled to argue in favour for them not meaning what they actually say.
If I were to ask you,
Can you willfully sin and not surely die?
What would your answer be?
The text says not a single word about "turning back to the law."
You want it to be about "turning back to the law" because you obviously refuse to believe it is about "willfully sinning after coming to knowledge of the truth" and "being sanctified by the blood" (ie. having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.)
You don't believe the Bible.
You believe in a theology which contradicts much of the Bible which is why when certain texts are raised (like Heb 10:26-29) you are compelled to argue in favour for them not meaning what they actually say.
If I were to ask you,
Can you willfully sin and not surely die?
What would your answer be?
Do you not see what is evident?
Let me also add this because you seem to lack understanding....
1Jo 1:8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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Of course that's the clear intent and context...its not even debatable in my mind...and the strength of sin is the law...so those in willful sin are under law not under grace...which is the only biblical way to overcome sin.
Do you not see what is evident?
Let me also add this because you seem to lack understanding....
1Jo 1:8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Do you not see what is evident?
Let me also add this because you seem to lack understanding....
1Jo 1:8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
You use 1Joh 1:8-10 as a proof text for "sin you will and sin you must" and therefore Hebrews 10:26 could not possibly, in your mind, mean what it actually states.
I wrote in an earlier post that the two major errors in false Christianity today are...
1. Original Sin (sin you will and sin you must)
2. Abstract Salvation (ye can sin and not surely die)
You are deceived by both errors. You believe you do not have any ability to "go and sin no more" and thus pull a passage about coming clean with God in initial repentance (1John 1:8-10) out of its context and use it as a proof text that one can never cease from sin.
Due to the sin never ceasing (ie. the bondage of sin is ongoing) then you must, by necessity, believe in a salvation which is positional (as opposed to actually being saved FROM sin, ie. set free from the bondage or service of sin). Thus you believe you are saved IN sin (ie. a salvation which is purely positional or abstract).
As to the question that I asked you, which you did not answer, you have to believe that you can in fact sin and not surely die.
You are totally deceived and your doctrine has zero foundation which is why you cannot directly address what I write. You have to resort to conjecture and diversion evidenced by all your posts.
Simply truth destroys lies. Jesus said, "blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God." Yet the deceived believe that they will see God even though their hearts remain wicked.
Flee false religion and yield to the plain teachings of Jesus. ALL his teachings, not selected portions removed from their context.
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M
Of course it is not debatable in your mind because you believe in "sin you will and sin you must." Your mind is subject to a strong delusion whereby it is inoculated from the plain and simple truth.
You use 1Joh 1:8-10 as a proof text for "sin you will and sin you must" and therefore Hebrews 10:26 could not possibly, in your mind, mean what it actually states.
I wrote in an earlier post that the two major errors in false Christianity today are...
1. Original Sin (sin you will and sin you must)
2. Abstract Salvation (ye can sin and not surely die)
You are deceived by both errors. You believe you do not have any ability to "go and sin no more" and thus pull a passage about coming clean with God in initial repentance (1John 1:8-10) out of its context and use it as a proof text that one can never cease from sin.
Due to the sin never ceasing (ie. the bondage of sin is ongoing) then you must, by necessity, believe in a salvation which is positional (as opposed to actually being saved FROM sin, ie. set free from the bondage or service of sin). Thus you believe you are saved IN sin (ie. a salvation which is purely positional or abstract).
As to the question that I asked you, which you did not answer, you have to believe that you can in fact sin and not surely die.
You are totally deceived and your doctrine has zero foundation which is why you cannot directly address what I write. You have to resort to conjecture and diversion evidenced by all your posts.
Simply truth destroys lies. Jesus said, "blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God." Yet the deceived believe that they will see God even though their hearts remain wicked.
Flee false religion and yield to the plain teachings of Jesus. ALL his teachings, not selected portions removed from their context.
You use 1Joh 1:8-10 as a proof text for "sin you will and sin you must" and therefore Hebrews 10:26 could not possibly, in your mind, mean what it actually states.
I wrote in an earlier post that the two major errors in false Christianity today are...
1. Original Sin (sin you will and sin you must)
2. Abstract Salvation (ye can sin and not surely die)
You are deceived by both errors. You believe you do not have any ability to "go and sin no more" and thus pull a passage about coming clean with God in initial repentance (1John 1:8-10) out of its context and use it as a proof text that one can never cease from sin.
Due to the sin never ceasing (ie. the bondage of sin is ongoing) then you must, by necessity, believe in a salvation which is positional (as opposed to actually being saved FROM sin, ie. set free from the bondage or service of sin). Thus you believe you are saved IN sin (ie. a salvation which is purely positional or abstract).
As to the question that I asked you, which you did not answer, you have to believe that you can in fact sin and not surely die.
You are totally deceived and your doctrine has zero foundation which is why you cannot directly address what I write. You have to resort to conjecture and diversion evidenced by all your posts.
Simply truth destroys lies. Jesus said, "blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God." Yet the deceived believe that they will see God even though their hearts remain wicked.
Flee false religion and yield to the plain teachings of Jesus. ALL his teachings, not selected portions removed from their context.
J
No just believe the bible...."I know nothing good lives in me, that is in my sinful nature" and the strength of sin is the law...
M
"Sinful nature" is nowhere to be found in that passage. It should simply read "flesh". "Sinful nature" is somebody's interpretation and not an actual translation from the Greek to English. Anybody who still has a "sinful nature" needs to be born again.
J
Your right..flesh is the correct translation..that only makes my point more evident.