Albert Pike

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for those not familiar, Pike was a 33[SUP]rd[/SUP] degree mason, very influential and respected by many of the leaders in finance, industry and government. Here are a few things this guy went on the record saying:

“That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?”

“Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods; darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive….”

“Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.”

people can call me crazy, paranoid and a conspiracy theorist all they want but these words are sinister and the guy saying them was not just some wacko.
 
jaybird88 said:
for those not familiar, Pike was a 33[SUP]rd[/SUP] degree mason, very influential and respected by many of the leaders in finance, industry and government. Here are a few things this guy went on the record saying:

“That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?”

“Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods; darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive….”

“Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.”

people can call me crazy, paranoid and a conspiracy theorist all they want but these words are sinister and the guy saying them was not just some wacko.
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Well that a mouthful! His philosophy is rooted in the "Yin and Yang". Light and darkness are always in balance and you can't have one without the other. Even in my ole baptist church something a kin was taught like this. Except it took the form of, "Jesus came to earth in order to experience the darkness men were living". In other words God didn't know what evil was and needed to experience it as a man. Needless to say I was not impressed with that. Yet there is something to be said about,"Experiencing Light without Darkness is impossible".
Jay, What is the direction you want to take this thread?
 
RussellJBenigno said:
Well that a mouthful! His philosophy is rooted in the "Yin and Yang". Light and darkness are always in balance and you can't have one without the other. Even in my ole baptist church something a kin was taught like this. Except it took the form of, "Jesus came to earth in order to experience the darkness men were living". In other words God didn't know what evil was and needed to experience it as a man. Needless to say I was not impressed with that. Yet there is something to be said about,"Experiencing Light without Darkness is impossible".
Jay, What is the direction you want to take this thread?
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the point i was making or direction is that i really believe there is an evil agenda out there. so many think that the elite leaders of the world are only interested in money and power but i think they are into some very dark stuff. i was using the words of Pike to show there is truth in this.
 
jaybird88 said:
the point i was making or direction is that i really believe there is an evil agenda out there. so many think that the elite leaders of the world are only interested in money and power but i think they are into some very dark stuff. i was using the words of Pike to show there is truth in this.
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Communism is a great example of wickedness seeking power and most of all subjugation or imprisonment of the masses. They seek to control through subterfuge and fear. Why would leaders seek to control others? Our country was founded on Freedom and men determining their own destiny and communism is the exact opposite. To me communism is a satanic driven philosophy meant to imprison mentally, emotionally and physically. This Pike guy is doing what is called muddying the water. He is causing confusion as to what is right and wrong. ie: satan is light and God is darkness.
 
Albert Pike was in essence a Manichean, though he took the heretical views "evil deity's" side, which I think makes it even worse.
 
ThomistColin said:
Albert Pike was in essence a Manichean, though he took the heretical views "evil deity's" side, which I think makes it even worse.
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Manichaeism taught an elaborate dualistic cosmology describing the struggle between a good, spiritual world of light, and an evil, material world of darkness. Through an ongoing process which takes place in human history, light is gradually removed from the world of matter and returned to the world of light whence it came. Its beliefs were based on local Mesopotamian gnostic and religious movements.[SUP][5][/SUP]
 
all this occult garbage Pike is going on about goes right along with the occult rituals of bohemia grove, where all the powerful leaders of the world meet. when confronted they laugh it off as a joke, i dont think a mock child sacrifice is a joke.
 
jaybird88 said:
all this occult garbage Pike is going on about goes right along with the occult rituals of bohemia grove, where all the powerful leaders of the world meet. when confronted they laugh it off as a joke, i dont think a mock child sacrifice is a joke.
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What's bohemia grove? What mock child sacrifice?
 
RussellJBenigno said:
What's bohemia grove? What mock child sacrifice?
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its a weekend retreat for many of the world leaders. they get together in front of a giant stone owl and do all their rituals. the owl is supposed to represent molech or gaia. these are the people that lead our country and other countries.
here is a post from another thread with the owl pics:

jaybird88 said:
the tower burning is very scary. something else freaky about our money is i think all paper money has an owl on it. the owl was a symbol for one of the Canaanite gods, the one they sacrificed children to. 1 owl would be no big deal but there are owls everythere. in the DC street plan there is an owl on a pyramid. also the occult ceremony the rich elites do in northern California, they make a huge fire and dance around in front of a giant stone owl.123029d1435379595-9-11-money-folding-youll-want-see-owlshrine.jpg123030d1435379597-9-11-money-folding-youll-want-see-owl_ritual.jpg
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jaybird88 said:
its a weekend retreat for many of the world leaders. they get together in front of a giant stone owl and do all their rituals. the owl is supposed to represent molech or gaia. these are the people that lead our country and other countries.
here is a post from another thread with the owl pics:
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The Owl symbol pictured represents Moloch it is the same symbol on the back of Mazda cars.
 
Elysian said:
The Owl symbol pictured represents Moloch it is the same symbol on the back of Mazda cars.
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molech was a bull back in the old days but i also read they use different symbolic idols for individual false gods.

RussellJBenigno said:
Or could it be just a coincidence?????
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believe it or not you can take 50 random top global corporations and you will find occult symbolism in half of them. also you can take 100 random corporations and less than 5% will have any Christian symbolism.
yet most believe there is nothing evil about money that could possibly lead one down the wrong path.
 
RussellJBenigno said:
Or could it be just a coincidence?????
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Coincidence? I think not. Symbols always have occult significance and if one has knowledge in this area they can see the obvious.Have a long hard look at the Audi symbol next time and you will see three shiny sixes boldly standing out in the centre of it.Unfortunately global corporations have always had their own hidden religion and it's called Luciferianism and is psychotically opposed to Jesus Christ.
 
jaybird88 said:
molech was a bull back in the old days but i also read they use different symbolic idols for individual false gods.



believe it or not you can take 50 random top global corporations and you will find occult symbolism in half of them. also you can take 100 random corporations and less than 5% will have any Christian symbolism.
yet most believe there is nothing evil about money that could possibly lead one down the wrong path.
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i'll have to check that out by looking at symbols.
 
owls don't represent molech...molech was a bull god...

if you examine the actual text of the 'grove play' it is clear that the grove owl represents wisdom...if anything it would be connected with the greek athena...

also the 'cremation of care' ceremony is not an imitation of a child sacrifice...if you have seen footage of the 'grove play' being performed you can hear the 'care' character speaking and it is clearly not a child...the voice is booming and sinister and makes it clear that the character being burned in the fire represents something evil or demonic... in the programs provided to attendees the 'cremation of care' is actually presented as a symbolic exorcism...

now do i think it is a good thing that world leaders are participating in what is basically a fraternity that takes itself way too seriously? (one of the highest 'values' of the annual grove retreat is 'the right to urinate wherever you want'...i am not making this up!)

should we approve of this?

of course not...but let's not discredit ourselves by getting our facts completely wrong...
 
RachelBibleStudent said:
owls don't represent molech...molech was a bull god...

if you examine the actual text of the 'grove play' it is clear that the grove owl represents wisdom...if anything it would be connected with the greek athena...

also the 'cremation of care' ceremony is not an imitation of a child sacrifice...if you have seen footage of the 'grove play' being performed you can hear the 'care' character speaking and it is clearly not a child...the voice is booming and sinister and makes it clear that the character being burned in the fire represents something evil or demonic... in the programs provided to attendees the 'cremation of care' is actually presented as a symbolic exorcism...

now do i think it is a good thing that world leaders are participating in what is basically a fraternity that takes itself way too seriously? (one of the highest 'values' of the annual grove retreat is 'the right to urinate wherever you want'...i am not making this up!)

should we approve of this?

of course not...but let's not discredit ourselves by getting our facts completely wrong...
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you have a good point about molech and the bull. i mentioned this in post10 and also added about gaia.

i will admit i dont fully get the care ritual. but from i understand the speaker is not the sacrifice, the sacrifice is some mummy thing wrapped in a sheet. i read the mummy thing is a mock child used to symbolize care.

one other thing that doesn't make sense, if they are exorcizing demons and evil, then why do these leaders do such terrible things in their everyday lives, they seem far from serving the common good. out culture seems to move a step away from our Lord every day, who would have the influence to move it in that direction. just a thought.
 
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