Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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Budman

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mwc68, you are a musician. Start a thread about favorite music, and enjoy some time there. I'd love to talk about music. You don't always have to be slugging it out here.
 
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But really, I'm supposed to listen to a non Catholic teach me on Catholic doctine? That's kinda nuts. Would you learn music from a car mechanic?

Your comment reflects that you do not realize it is the Holy Spirit that reveals truth. We see because we are enabled to see. Why dont YOU see the truth?
 

Budman

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We have reasons for our different views. It is an insult , I believe to tell someone they are wrong when they truly believe something that is part of their lives and in means so much to them.
Why is it bad to tell someone they are wrong, if they are wrong?

The worst thing you can do to a person is to "love" them into hell.

This is serious business. Souls are at stake. It's far more beneficial to show someone their error, while there is time to correct it, then to let them die in ignorance and end up in hell.
 
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Why is it bad to tell someone they are wrong, if they are wrong?r

The worst thing you can do to a person is to "love" them into hell.

This is serious business. Souls are at stake. It's far more beneficial to show someone their error, while there is time to correct it, then to let them die in ignorance and end up in hell.
This is serious business and yall just want me to turn my back on the Church I have known 47 Yrs now. Yes, this is serious
 
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JoelG

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Why is it bad to tell someone they are wrong, if they are wrong?

The worst thing you can do to a person is to "love" them into hell.

This is serious business. Souls are at stake. It's far more beneficial to show someone their error, while there is time to correct it, then to let them die in ignorance and end up in hell.
I hear you brother. I which I could change the world to see everything my way.
But, we are putting our Catholic brothers into a corner. And, they will defend themselves. There must be a better way to deal with our differences.
The bible is not totally clear, otherwise we would all think exactly the same. I am impressed at how educated you all are in scriptures.

A heated discussion is a tool of the devil, I think?
 

Budman

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This is serious business and yall just want me to turn my back on the Church I have known 47 Yrs now. Yes, this is serious

Yes we do, and yes it is.

You could be in it for 80 years, it's still an apostate church, and up until they day you die, you have a chance to come out from it, and be set free.
 
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KennethC

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This is serious business and yall just want me to turn my back on the Church I have known 47 Yrs now. Yes, this is serious
Look you don't have to turn your back on your church, just realize when what they say does not align with scripture not to follow it.

Look I have seen this same thing in other denominations, where people just follow anything said by their preachers rather it aligns with the word or not. Which is one reason why OSAS and eternal security doctrines are so bad, because those doctriens as well blind people to the truth in the scriptures, and over complicate them.

I have even noticed that many that follow those two doctrines have gone to a bible college or seminary school for their teaching, instead of relying on the Holy Spirit's guidance they put their trust in another person.

Even showing them the truth of when those doctrines was started is futile with them as they will not hear the truth, and want to continue with the twisting and misuse of scripture they have been taught.

I don't know how many times I have seen some on here say Matthew 10:22 endure to the end to be saved has nothing to do with eternal life. However Hebrews 10:36 proves them wrong !!!
 

Budman

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The bible is not totally clear, otherwise we would all think exactly the same.

The Bible is totally clear - but people look at it through their own religious lens instead of reading it as written.

A heated discussion is a tool of the devil, I think?
Not at all. Anger can force someone to look at cold hard truth in a manner they never did before.

I am impressed at how educated you all are in scriptures.
Nothing is stopping you from becoming educated in the Word. In fact, God commands us to study the Bible. The reason? So we will not be taken in/fooled by false doctrine.

Get to it! :)
 
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JoelG

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I have Jehovah witness cousins that will not talk to me. They will not talk to me because of our religious differences.

Celebrating Christmas and Easter is a pagan practice, I don't like it. I did my research and found out a lot about Christmas and Easter. Yet, my wife makes me decorate the house and buy a tree every year. Am I suppose to force my belief on her and get divorce to save her soul?
 
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You see, i don't see the darkness yall portray. Last night at Mass everything was beautiful. The Holy Spirit was moving and our priest even extended his sermon. The music seemed particularly good and I know that was the Holy Spirit. This darkness and stuff yall talk at me about is just not there. We are the light of the world!
 
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JoelG

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Budman, I am totally on your side. You speak the truth, as far as I am concerned. But, we are only 10 post from making it 9000. Is it not kind of futile to continue.

I feel like if I continue I will get banned. I got to tell you I enjoy the subject. I have been told I have a hang up with the Catholics.
My wife makes me sit next her whenever we have to go to her family funerals and weddings. Don't make a scene she says. And, I say,"But, but ,but....". Cause I do not want to go in.
 
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The Bible is totally clear - but people look at it through their own religious lens instead of reading it as written.



Not at all. Anger can force someone to look at cold hard truth in a manner they never did before.
Nothing is stopping you from becoming educated in the Word. In fact, God commands us to study the Bible. The reason? So we will not be taken in/fooled by false doctrine.

Get to it! :)

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God Romans 10:17


Study and show yourself approved by GOD ,a workman that will not be ashamed because you rightly divide the word of God 2 Tim 2-15


The word is LIVING. The Holy Spirit reads the reader. It is unlike any other book on the face of this earth. When you hold the Bible and let the spirit teach and guide and comfort you; that is when you are made aware of the deep truths in the Bible.

When you ask the Lord to teach you the gospels( Matthew,Mark,Luke, and John) in the absence of a "religion" you will begin to see the hidden things you cannot see now just as many many others who have come out of the RC church. But if you continue on this path of the RC warrior you will die in your sins. God cannot teach you unless you humble yourself and earnestly want to know HIS TRUTH.
I pray that you do seek because Jesus said that you will indeed find!
 
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Budman, I am totally on your side. You speak the truth, as far as I am concerned. But, we are only 10 post from making it 9000. Is it not kind of futile to continue.

I feel like if I continue I will get banned. I got to tell you I enjoy the subject. I have been told I have a hang up with the Catholics.
My wife makes me sit next her whenever we have to go to her family funerals and weddings. Don't make a scene she says. And, I say,"But, but ,but....". Cause I do not want to go in.
Don't worry! I haven't been banned and I've had some outbursts I would have banned me for! lol
 

Budman

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I have Jehovah witness cousins that will not talk to me. They will not talk to me because of our religious differences.

Celebrating Christmas and Easter is a pagan practice, I don't like it. I did my research and found out a lot about Christmas and Easter. Yet, my wife makes me decorate the house and buy a tree every year. Am I suppose to force my belief on her and get divorce to save her soul?


If we celebrated them as a pagan holiday, then it would indeed be wrong. We don't. We celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ on those days. No need for a divorce.
 

Budman

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You see, i don't see the darkness yall portray. Last night at Mass everything was beautiful. The Holy Spirit was moving and our priest even extended his sermon. The music seemed particularly good and I know that was the Holy Spirit. This darkness and stuff yall talk at me about is just not there. We are the light of the world!

Don't exchange the truth for feelings.
 
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Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God Romans 10:17


Study and show yourself approved by GOD ,a workman that will not be ashamed because you rightly divide the word of God 2 Tim 2-15


The word is LIVING. The Holy Spirit reads the reader. It is unlike any other book on the face of this earth. When you hold the Bible and let the spirit teach and guide and comfort you; that is when you are made aware of the deep truths in the Bible.

When you ask the Lord to teach you the gospels( Matthew,Mark,Luke, and John) in the absence of a "religion" you will begin to see the hidden things you cannot see now just as many many others who have come out of the RC church. But if you continue on this path of the RC warrior you will die in your sins. God cannot teach you unless you humble yourself and earnestly want to know HIS TRUTH.
I pray that you do seek because Jesus said that you will indeed find!
What hidden things? Why don't you make them known? Can you tell me one of these hidden things?
 
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You see, i don't see the darkness yall portray. Last night at Mass everything was beautiful. The Holy Spirit was moving and our priest even extended his sermon. The music seemed particularly good and I know that was the Holy Spirit. This darkness and stuff yall talk at me about is just not there. We are the light of the world!
Satan comes as an angel of light. He has a imitation/counterfeit H.S. The "wind" does not sweep in a blasphemous church that does things God has Commanded against. Your FEELINGS deceive you. The pivot word here is FEELINGS. The music evoked them not the H.S. What does Christ have to do with evil?

 
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JoelG

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I study the bible very hard. I say, I must not know it all even thou I read the bible and do my side research, because; for instance. The bible says woman should remain silent in church. Yet, Rev. Barbara at the United Methodist Church did not agree with me. Rev. Barbara's response was,
"Oh yea, who wrote the bible"? And, I brought this up with my female cousin and she told me lets agree to disagree. And I stood my ground. Now my cousin quit talking to me. So now I have Jehovah witness cousins that will not talk to me and I have a Baptist cousin that quit messaging me from another state, just when we were getting to know each other better after many years.

Its all about saving souls, of course. But, correct me if I am wrong. Some people are blessed with the gift to save souls. Like my pastor told me. We are all one body , but different parts of our body have different jobs. Like missionary work is not for everyone. Some members of a church are best suited to just sit on the pews and listen. Others have the gift to preach.
Am I right or wrong on this?
 
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If we celebrated them as a pagan holiday, then it would indeed be wrong. We don't. We celebrate the birth and resurrection of Christ on those days. No need for a divorce.

JoelG there is LIBERTY in Christ. I encourage you to study about the liberties we have. God looks at the MOTIVES OF OUR HEARTS concerning Christmas and Easter. The holidays are a wonderful time to spread the reason for the seasons.
Romans 8:28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
 
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JoelG

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I study the bible very hard. I say, I must not know it all even thou I read the bible and do my side research, because; for instance. The bible says woman should remain silent in church. Yet, Rev. Barbara at the United Methodist Church did not agree with me. Rev. Barbara's response was,
"Oh yea, who wrote the bible"? And, I brought this up with my female cousin and she told me lets agree to disagree. And I stood my ground. Now my cousin quit talking to me. So now I have Jehovah witness cousins that will not talk to me and I have a Baptist cousin that quit messaging me from another state, just when we were getting to know each other better after many years.

Its all about saving souls, of course. But, correct me if I am wrong. Some people are blessed with the gift to save souls. Like my pastor told me. We are all one body , but different parts of our body have different jobs. Like missionary work is not for everyone. Some members of a church are best suited to just sit on the pews and listen. Others have the gift to preach.
Am I right or wrong on this?