Obsession with Confession (1 John 1:9, sin confession)

[Magenta]

God's Word says people do know, and they hide the truth from themselves. Can't remember the exact Scripture; also that the heavens declare the glory of God... people run in rebellion and defiance, preferring the darkness to Light.

I found it Romans 1:18-21

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made,so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

 

[Skinski7]

I found it Romans 1:18-21

God’s Wrath Against Sinful Humanity

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made,so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

That sentiment perfectly matches...

Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

The condemnation is simply rebellion to God.

In order for reconciliation to take place the rebellion has to stop. The doctrine of Original Sin (introduced into Christian orthodoxy by Augustine) basically teaches that human beings are born in rebellion and thus "free agency" has nothing to do with it. Thus the burden of responsibility to "forsake rebellion" is shifted from the rebellious (for they lack ability to forsake the state in which they were born) to God, God whom has to offset the involuntary rebellion.

It is an ingenious deception.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

It is cognitive dissonance in your mind. All I have done is strip the fluff from your theology, fluff which attempt to veil the notion of "you can sin and not surely die."

I can ask very simple questions which will demonstrate the truth.

Answer this...

Is there any sin or sins that MUST stop BEFORE God will grant forgiveness?




I did answer that question earlier I believe anyway. I fully understand that you disagree with what you perceive as my interpretation of your religion. The Pharisees disagreed with the contentions of Jesus about their religion also.

Well then.

I guess I assume you misunderstand my beliefs, because I do not recall you first asking about my beliefs.

In other words, it seems your understanding of my beliefs is based on the fact that I disagree with your stance. Apparently anyone who disagrees with you is lumped into the same category. I don't believe there are two categories on this issue, I believe there are three:

One is an extreme (television) notion of "confess once and nevermore!" (Extreme OSAS).
Another is the polar opposite of this notion: "Confess and sin no more!" (Extreme Sinless Perfection [or extreme Skinski7 sinlessness--since you don't agree with the terminology])
And the third "confess and abide in honesty" (Most commonly accepted perspective, also my perspective).

I take offense to several of your posts, because (whether you intend to or not) your words make it seem like anyone who disagrees with you is automatically on the side of evil; you imply and make accusations without first showing that you have understood your opponent's point of view.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

It is really the same error in different clothes. The Pharisees had faith in their rites, rituals and rules, the modern religionists have faith in dogmatic theological constructs.

My challenge to you: Consider the notion that you may be calling people Pharisees before first gaining a clear understanding of what they are communicating. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a part of the opposite extreme crowd.

 

[ladylynn]

Being able to study the Bible using Scripture to interpret Scripture, causes us to learn more about the subject and we change our views accordingly. This is a good thing! We will never know all there is in the Bible but we can learn more each day, each week,month and year of our lives.

'Grace' for instance can take on major life changing meaning for a believers life when we study about Jesus love for us. Learning about the love of God is what we are instructed to do when we read His Word. The Amplified Bible puts Philippians 3:10 like this:
"For my determined purpose is that I may know Him that I may progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him, perceiving and recognizing and understanding the wonders of His Person more strongly and more clearly, and that I may in that same way come to know the power outflowing from His resurrection which it exerts over believers, and that I may so share His sufferings as to be continually transformed in spirit unto His likeness even to His death, in the hope."

The words determined purpose., to know Him...progressively become more deeply and intimately acquainted with Him...perceiving.,recognizing, understanding..more strongly and clearly....

This learning stuff must bring us to see scripture in different ways as the HolySpirit reveals Jesus to us through the Bible in our reading,learning and walking it. Hearing and hearing the Bible daily will change our thinking. It has too.

In the article below, the subject is about what the washing of our feet from the world means, and how it is not about when we confess our sins that is what 'cleans us up washing our feet from the dust of the world'. But as I've studied the meanings of verses, this takes on a new meaning about washing the feet. The Bible says it's the washing of the Word that cleans us daily, not the confession of sin. A long held interpretation can be changed for the better. Study and change is not a bad thing. We should not be afraid to change. To be pointed again to Jesus and how it's about Him and not us in our weakness but Him in our weakness. Changes it up totally for me to see it in this way.


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Can you imagine the Lord wanting to wash your feet? Peter could not. His shocked reaction—“Lord, how can you wash my feet!”—would probably be ours too.
Notice what the Lord said to him: “Peter, if I don’t wash your feet, you have no part with Me.” What the Lord was actually saying to Peter was, “Peter, you cannot flow together with Me, you cannot walk together with Me in ministry, in service and in effectiveness, if you don’t let Me wash your feet.” So Peter said, “Lord, [wash] not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!” (John 13:9)
But Jesus answered him saying, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean…” (John 13:10)
Once we have accepted Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are bathed all over, and cleansed by His blood once and for all eternity! His blood has perfected us forever (Hebrews 10:14), and we only need to wash our feet because we walk in the world and our feet pick up dust and dirt, causing us to stumble.
So how is Jesus washing our feet today? Ephesians 5:25–26 tells us that “Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the Word”.
We, the church, are cleansed with the washing of water by the Word. The more we come under anointed teaching that unveils Christ through the Word, the more the cleansing goes on. And as our feet are washed, instead of stumbling, we will be walking and even running!
Today, though high and lifted up in heaven, Jesus is dressed in a robe with a golden girdle around his chest. (Revelation 1:13) Like a servant who uses his girdle as a towel to serve, Jesus wants us to sit down and let Him serve us—by washing our feet with a deeper revelation of Himself through His Word. Beloved, this is what gives us victory in our daily walk!
[h=4]Thought For The Day[/h]As we receive a deeper revelation of Christ through His Word, we will see victory in our daily walk!

Bible article Grace inspirations.

 

[Skinski7]

Well then.

I guess I assume you misunderstand my beliefs, because I do not recall you first asking about my beliefs.

I have read a number of your posts. I see enough to make some solid conclusions.

In other words, it seems your understanding of my beliefs is based on the fact that I disagree with your stance. Apparently anyone who disagrees with you is lumped into the same category. I don't believe there are two categories on this issue, I believe there are three:

One is an extreme (television) notion of "confess once and nevermore!" (Extreme OSAS).
Another is the polar opposite of this notion: "Confess and sin no more!" (Extreme Sinless Perfection [or extreme Skinski7 sinlessness--since you don't agree with the terminology])
And the third "confess and abide in honesty" (Most commonly accepted perspective, also my perspective).

All 3 are false.

1. This is premised on a false view of salvation. The salvation of OSAS is premised purely on the PROVISION of Penal Substitution, a false doctrine which teaches that Jesus literally bore the wrath of God as the sinners substitute and thus that wrath cannot be poured out again. Thus the adherents of this position believe that their sin, past, present and future is all PAID FOR IN FULL and this they are PROVISIONALLY SAVED and actual manifest conduct has nothing to do with it. This position is also established firmly upon the doctrine of Original Sin which teaches "sin you will and sin you must" and thus a "provisional salvation" view is really just a necessary outcome.

2. My view is inclusive of heart purity in salvation yet people like you cannot seem to quote that aspect in any of your responses. You always have to twist it into something like "extreme Skinski7 sinlessness" or "sinless perfection." The Bible clearly teaches heart purity yet it seems the term "heart purity" is a dirty term because people simply ignore it and refuse to engage on the issue. I do not think a single post in this entire thread has addressed anything I have said that relates to heart purity. Is not that very interesting?

My claim of "sin no more" or "sin stopping" relates to REBELLION. Christianity involves the service of righteousness not sin, we keep ourselves from sin. The sin defenders do not like that because they want a message where sin can still be served, if they didn't then they would not be opposed to a ceasing of sin.

I even make the clear distinction between sins of ignorance (ie. not rooted in rebellion) and willful sin (rebellion). It is the rebellion which stops. Sins of ignorance are addressed with correction, submission and growth. We can err with a faith that works by love but we will never rebel against God, to rebel against God is to forsake genuine faith.

3. Without any clear advocacy of the rebellion having to cease once and for all the notion of "sin and confess" is really no different than the OSAS view. Instead of OSAS it is just a revolving door of sin/rebellion/sin/rebellion/sin/rebellion and the difference is just one of semantics.

I take offense to several of your posts, because (whether you intend to or not) your words make it seem like anyone who disagrees with you is automatically on the side of evil; you imply and make accusations without first showing that you have understood your opponent's point of view.

Anyone who argues in favour of being able to engage in rebellion to God and be in a forgiven state is on the side of evil. Are you an advocate of such a thing?

Is there any sin or sins that must stop BEFORE God will grant forgiveness?

Please answer that question as it goes right to the root of the issue.

 

[Skinski7]

My challenge to you: Consider the notion that you may be calling people Pharisees before first gaining a clear understanding of what they are communicating. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a part of the opposite extreme crowd.

I know exactly what they are communicating because they are opposed to heart purity in salvation.

If one is opposed to heart purity being a necessary aspect of an authentic salvation experience (ie. saved FROM sin) then that one is clearly an advocate of heart wickedness in salvation and is thus clearly an advocate for ongoing wickedness being permissible.

These things are pretty clear cut.

 

[Skinski7]

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Can you imagine the Lord wanting to wash your feet? Peter could not. His shocked reaction—“Lord, how can you wash my feet!”—would probably be ours too.
Notice what the Lord said to him: “Peter, if I don’t wash your feet, you have no part with Me.” What the Lord was actually saying to Peter was, “Peter, you cannot flow together with Me, you cannot walk together with Me in ministry, in service and in effectiveness, if you don’t let Me wash your feet.” So Peter said, “Lord, [wash] not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!” (John 13:9)
But Jesus answered him saying, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean…” (John 13:10)
Once we have accepted Christ as our Lord and Savior, we are bathed all over, and cleansed by His blood once and for all eternity! His blood has perfected us forever (Hebrews 10:14), and we only need to wash our feet because we walk in the world and our feet pick up dust and dirt, causing us to stumble.

This is another good example of how deception works.

The phrase, "one we have accepted Christ as our Lord and Saviour" IS NOT IN THE BIBLE. The Bible does not teach anything remotely close to a mere "acceptance of Christ as Lord and Saviour." That notion is rooted in the fallacy that the death of Christ effected a legal transaction which one merely trusts in to be clean.

Paul preached repentance proven by deeds in Acts because a genuine repentance necessitates a total turn around from rebellion to God unto obedience to God. "Accepting Christ as Lord and Saviour" leaves all that out and twists the Gospel into there mere "acceptance" of a provision. It is a lie.

"Our feet pick up dust causing us to stumble? Where does the Bible teach that? The Bible teaches...

1Jn 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jn 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

Yet instead of contending for that people contend for "sin you will and sin you must" as if rebellion to God from time to time is inevitable. Then when you have millions of people all confirming this nonsense to one another you have the structure of the vast deception we see, where sinning against God is not really a big deal, it is just a "slip up" and thus confess and don't worry about it. There is no contending for purity of heart or a faith that works by love as any standard, contend for that and you'll be deemed a heretic who doesn't "trust in Jesus."

So how is Jesus washing our feet today? Ephesians 5:25–26 tells us that “Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the Word”.

One is only cleansed by the Word so much as they are YIELDED TO IT. That is why James wrote...

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

One cannot receive the implanted word whilst walking in wickedness. We have to repent and yield to God and then the implanted word brings life to our inward parts.

The problem is that people want life without having to submit themselves wholeheartedly to God.

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We, the church, are cleansed with the washing of water by the Word. The more we come under anointed teaching that unveils Christ through the Word, the more the cleansing goes on. And as our feet are washed, instead of stumbling, we will be walking and even running!
Today, though high and lifted up in heaven, Jesus is dressed in a robe with a golden girdle around his chest. (Revelation 1:13) Like a servant who uses his girdle as a towel to serve, Jesus wants us to sit down and let Him serve us—by washing our feet with a deeper revelation of Himself through His Word. Beloved, this is what gives us victory in our daily walk!
Thought For The Day

As we receive a deeper revelation of Christ through His Word, we will see victory in our daily walk!
Bible article Grace inspirations.

It all sounds so good doesn't it? So godly? Yet it isn't. It is deception. "...instead of stumbling, we will be walking and even running!" implies a MEANWHILE of ongoing rebellion whilst saved. Thus inward wickedness and salvation is grafted together into being one and the same, it is THEN AFTER initial salvation that the wickedness decreases. Thus we have Christian's engaged in all manner of evil because "God is still working on them" or "still washing them."

Repentance has been utterly rejected in favour of being able to continue in sin, so long as you confess that sin and trust in Jesus. What kind of abomination is this?

 

[shotgunner]

I know exactly what they are communicating because they are opposed to heart purity in salvation.

If one is opposed to heart purity being a necessary aspect of an authentic salvation experience (ie. saved FROM sin) then that one is clearly an advocate of heart wickedness in salvation and is thus clearly an advocate for ongoing wickedness being permissible.

These things are pretty clear cut.

What you do not understand is that there are three parts to a person, Spirit, soul and body. The Spirit is the part that is born again which is made pure and one with Christ when saved. You speak of heart purity which must be Spirit purity. All believers are pure of Spirit because they are one with Christ.1.Cor 6:17

There is however still the soul which is the mind ,will and emotion, and the body to contend with. Our bodies are not born again and will not receive immortality until the coming of Jesus. The soul, the mind must be renewed to the Word of God.

Everyone who is born of God has a will and desire to put to death the desires of the flesh. That however does not mean that they will never fall to temptation. Nor does it mean that if they do, they are damned to Hell. It is only their flesh which sins because from the heart they desire to abstain from sin. They do indeed have a pure heart. They will conquer fleshly desires as they renew their minds and continue to be submitted to the Holy Spirit.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

2. My view is inclusive of heart purity in salvation yet people like you cannot seem to quote that aspect in any of your responses. You always have to twist it into something like "extreme Skinski7 sinlessness" or "sinless perfection." The Bible clearly teaches heart purity yet it seems the term "heart purity" is a dirty term because people simply ignore it and refuse to engage on the issue. I do not think a single post in this entire thread has addressed anything I have said that relates to heart purity. Is not that very interesting?

My claim of "sin no more" or "sin stopping" relates to REBELLION. Christianity involves the service of righteousness not sin, we keep ourselves from sin. The sin defenders do not like that because they want a message where sin can still be served, if they didn't then they would not be opposed to a ceasing of sin.

I even make the clear distinction between sins of ignorance (ie. not rooted in rebellion) and willful sin (rebellion). It is the rebellion which stops. Sins of ignorance are addressed with correction, submission and growth. We can err with a faith that works by love but we will never rebel against God, to rebel against God is to forsake genuine faith.

Anyone who argues in favour of being able to engage in rebellion to God and be in a forgiven state is on the side of evil. Are you an advocate of such a thing?

Is there any sin or sins that must stop BEFORE God will grant forgiveness?

Please answer that question as it goes right to the root of the issue.

I have not read this entire thread. What caught my attention was a post where you essentially told Ben that he believes a satanic lie:

Again it demonstrates that you want to believe in a cleansing which cloaks ongoing rebellion to God. In other words you want to believe that you can in fact sin and not surely die, the very first lie of Satan.

In order to believe that satanic lie you have to uphold the twisting of the Bible, thus you contend that "sin" (rebellion to God) does not remove one from the light, whereby you advocate a perpetual ongoing cleansing of the ongoing sin. Basically you believe in a "license to sin" although I doubt you would be so blunt about it.

You, Sir, have twisted Ben's words to support your own personal agenda. In the same breath, you accuse Ben of twisting the words of the Bible -- ironic, no?

You do the same with others and you're toeing the line with me; on one hand, you say you've read enough of my posts to make some definite conclusions and on the other hand, you ask me if I support the extreme view of engaging in active rebellion towards God. It seems, to me, that if someone has read as much of my posts as you claim -- you would already know (No! I do not support this -- neither do you).

"Heart purity in salvation" -- I assume you already think i am opposed to this (as you have lumped me in with those who oppose). However, this ties into my initial statement; I haven't read the entire thread -- at the present time, I do not fully understand what you mean by "heart purity in salvation" -- my best guess would be that it means exactly what myself (and others) have been communicating to you: If you knowingly (willfully) continue to sin, you're not saved. However, if your heart is pure and you have sinned without knowing (non-willfully) then you will still be saved.

I know exactly what they are communicating because they are opposed to heart purity in salvation.

If one is opposed to heart purity being a necessary aspect of an authentic salvation experience (ie. saved FROM sin) then that one is clearly an advocate of heart wickedness in salvation and is thus clearly an advocate for ongoing wickedness being permissible.

These things are pretty clear cut.

If you know so clearly, then please revisit your response to Ben above -- I would like to know how you justify what you referred to as "blunt".

 

[WoundedWarrior]

This is another good example of how deception works.

Repentance has been utterly rejected in favour of being able to continue in sin, so long as you confess that sin and trust in Jesus. What kind of abomination is this?

Repentance = Confess and trust in Jesus.

The only sad deception is you -- twisting and prodding at Lynn's words so as to find a speck of fault in order to blow this speck up into something major so that you can continue your crusade..

 

[Skinski7]

What you do not understand is that there are three parts to a person, Spirit, soul and body. The Spirit is the part that is born again which is made pure and one with Christ when saved. You speak of heart purity which must be Spirit purity. All believers are pure of Spirit because they are one with Christ.1.Cor 6:17

There is however still the soul which is the mind ,will and emotion, and the body to contend with. Our bodies are not born again and will not receive immortality until the coming of Jesus. The soul, the mind must be renewed to the Word of God.

Everyone who is born of God has a will and desire to put to death the desires of the flesh. That however does not mean that they will never fall to temptation. Nor does it mean that if they do, they are damned to Hell. It is only their flesh which sins because from the heart they desire to abstain from sin. They do indeed have a pure heart. They will conquer fleshly desires as they renew their minds and continue to be submitted to the Holy Spirit.

You might as well advocate full blown Gnosticism if you believe all that. Look at what you have written.

"That however does not mean that they will never fall to temptation. Nor does it mean that if they do, they are damned to Hell. It is only their flesh which sins because from the heart they desire to abstain from sin." is a pure Gnostic statement.

Now read this...

In Gnosticism, the world of the demiurge is represented by the lower world, which is associated with matter, flesh, time and, more particularly, an imperfect, ephemeral world. The world of God is represented by the upper world and is associated with the soul and perfection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism


You blame sin on the flesh body and even go so far to say that one can be engaged in wickedness in the flesh whilst not sinning in the spirit.

Only the flesh which sins? The flesh is merely the vehicle we are housed in and we are to bring it into subjection to the Spirit of God.

If the flesh was a motor vehicle surely you would be advocating that a motor vehicle drives itself apart from the direction given by the driver. It is the same logical premise.

The Bible speaks of...

Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Yet you contend the very opposite in that one does not have to mortify the deeds of the body in order to live.

John writes....

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Yet here you are saying that one does not have to "walk as he walked" because it is only the "flesh that sins."

Thus you speak of a "desire" to abstain from sin and "they will" conquer sin. WHEN?

You have just enjoined salvation and rebellion together, thus under your belief system you can have a child molester actively engaged in the molesting of children and yet be saved, forgiven and destined for the kingdom. Can you not see the absurdity of what you believe?

The Bible contends for purity, holiness, righteousness, patiently enduring in doing good. Do you contend for that? No you don't. You contend for being able to sin and not surely die and blame sin on the flesh body just like a Gnostic.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

And now let's do it to shotgun as well.

What's your purpose here -- to build up or tear down?

 

[Skinski7]

Repentance = Confess and trust in Jesus.

The only sad deception is you -- twisting and prodding at Lynn's words so as to find a speck of fault in order to blow this speck up into something major so that you can continue your crusade..

The Bible says this about repentance...

2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
2Co 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

Repentance is a lot more than some nebulous "confession and trusting in Jesus."

In fact Jesus referenced Nineveh when teaching repentance...

Mat_12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

The people of Nineveh forsook their evil ways.

Jon 3:5 So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Likewise the Prodigal Son in Luke 15 forsook his wayward life and sought to return to his father. He was no longer in rebellion, he came clean with his father and humbly sought mercy.

So Wounded will you answer my question? I have endeavoured to answer all yours.


Is there any sin or sins that must be forsaken BEFORE God will grant mercy?


I know it is a troubling question for those who believe they can engage in evil and remain in a forgiven state. This question rips to the root of a lot of this deception.

 

[Skinski7]

And now let's do it to shotgun as well.

What's your purpose here -- to build up or tear down?

To tear down strongholds of the lie and build up an understanding of the truth.

 

[WoundedWarrior]

Is there any sin or sins that must be forsaken BEFORE God will grant mercy?

God requires we acknowledge that we have sinned before we are able to receive His mercy.

Does this answer your question?

 

[WoundedWarrior]

To tear down strongholds of the lie and build up an understanding of the truth.

I am concerned that you see that which does not actually exist.

 

[prodigal]

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[BenFTW]

I must admit Skinski7, what a clever association to make God's grace align with satan's lie. You can sin and surely not die (ie, license to sin). Except you forget one thing. Jesus did die. He paid the penalty for all sin. We even partook of that death, in our baptism. We also took part in His resurrection into newness of life, having put off the old nature and being a new creation. So while the association was clever, there was truth left untold. That being, Jesus has died and resurrected and the penalty of that death for sin has been paid in full. So God's truth is not like satan's lie, as death surely did happen. When we sin, it is not that we are cheating death, but rather that debt has already been paid by Jesus Christ.

I will plainly state, your sin has no say in your eternal destination. Jesus does. Your sin is washed in His blood. He is able to save you completely. I am not saying that we can sin all we want, I am saying that we won't sin all we want because we have been born again and died to sin. It is no longer our master, nor will it have dominion over us for we are not under law but grace. The idea is, "Awaken to righteousness and sin not." Sin doesn't have to dominate your life, let that revelation of grace sink in. Oh, and if you do sin, as is said in 1 John 2, we have an Advocate with the Father. Jesus Christ, our High Priest.

 

[Skinski7]

God requires we acknowledge that we have sinned before we are able to receive His mercy.

Does this answer your question?

That is not an answer to what I asked.

I specifically asked if there is any sin or sin which must stop BEFORE God will grant forgiveness?

Why will you not answer that question?