Is polygamy next?

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Bushido8000 said:
We say this because of our cultural foundations, not religious foundations. There's nothing against it in the scriptures.

Culturally, it's "weird" to Westerners like us because most of us can't comprehend the mindset, so we just write it off as "wrong" spiritually. Eating bugs is weird as well (but also practiced in the Bible and still today).

We can use our spiritual beliefs as a scapegoat for our cultural beliefs and say that God made marriage for one man and one woman, but the scriptures seem to say otherwise, at least for me.

I know my opinion isn't a popular one, but I have yet to see it disputed with the meat and potatoes of scriptural truth.
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Once when Mark Twain was lecturing in Utah, a Mormon acquaintance argued with him on the subject of polygamy. After a long and rather heated debate, the Mormon finally said, "Can you find for me a single passage of Scripture which forbids polygamy?"

"Certainly," replied Twain. "'No man can serve two masters.'" (heehee - j/k) LOL :D
 
Bushido8000 said:
Well at least it would be a marriage that the Bible doesn't preach against.

INB4 it does, nope. Not a single verse (other than the special case for deacons) preaches against it. You only see an end to it CULTURALLY when the NT moves toward the West, where polygamy is extremely uncommon and pretty taboo (but homosexuality isn't)
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Is this practice solely for men to marry multiple wives? Or do they permit a woman to have a couple of hubbies, too? :rolleyes: LOL
 
How did the building give its consent and did they have a certificate or a lease?
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
I will argue otherwise. Polygamy was never the biblical design in the bible. There never existed an express biblical permission for such a deviation from the ordinance of God made at the institution of marriage in the Garden of Eden (Gen 2:21–24).

There are at least four passages that conceivably could be construed as giving temporary permission from God to override the general law of marriage found in Genesis 2:24. They are Exodus 21:7–11, Leviticus 18:18, Deuteronomy 21:15–17 and 2 Samuel 12:7–8. But each one falls far short of proving that anything like divine permission was being granted in these passages.

Scripture does not always pause to state the obvious. In many cases there is no need for the reader to imagine what God thinks of such states of affairs, for the misfortune and strife that come into the domestic lives of these polygamists cannot be read as a sign of divine approval.

For example, it is true that Jacob was deceived by Laban on Jacob’s wedding night but that did not justify Jacob in agreeing to Laban’s crafty plan to get him to stay around for another seven years to ensure continued prosperity. Two wrongs in this case did not make a right.

In ancient Israel, monogamy (not polygamy) was the common form of marriage in Israel apart from kings. Samuel and Kings do not record a single instance of polygamy among commoners except that of Samuel’s father.

What we find in scripture is that polygamy was allowed by God for the same reason as divorce, namely as a temporary concession to human weakness and sinfulness before the coming of Christ (see J. Murray 'Principles of Conduct').

The New Testament leaves no room for it. Paul’s parallel between the mystical union of Christ and his church and the union of man and wife ‘in the Lord’ is altogether appropriate (Eph. 5:24–33) and converted pagans who previously engaged in the practice are barred from church leadership entirely.
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The new testament not leaving room for polygamy is due to the fact that polygamy isn't even around in the setting of the new Testament. Not because it was simply "done away with". They left the area where polygamy was culturally being practiced (and is still culturally being practiced). Why would you give people metaphors about trees when they have never seen or heard of one? And your theological theories would definitely nix polygamy, but unfortunately, they are just theological theories that must stretch to the conclusion that polygamy is wrong, because nowhere in the Bible does it hint that it is wrong for 1 man to have 2 wives.

Am I saying that polygamy is smart? Nope. One wife is more than enough for me haha.

What I'm saying is that equating polygamy to the BIBLICAL STATED SINFUL ACTS of homosexuality and bestiality is wrong in my opinion. If people choose to go that route (which I think is a silly choice), I think it should be legal to do so, just as it was legal in the OT.

I may be completely wrong about the subject, but again my opinion has yet to be refuted with scriptures.

Galahad said:
Bush, what do you mean by "preach against"?
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I mean that the Bible doesn't forbid it (except for the special case of Deacons)
 
Bushido8000 said:
Well at least it would be a marriage that the Bible doesn't preach against.

INB4 it does, nope. Not a single verse (other than the special case for deacons) preaches against it. You only see an end to it CULTURALLY when the NT moves toward the West, where polygamy is extremely uncommon and pretty taboo (but homosexuality isn't)
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It is written:

Genesis 2:24 - “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Matthew 19:4-6 - "Have ye not read, that He [God] which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And [He] said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Mark 10:7,8 - "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they two shall be one flesh: so then they are no more two, but one flesh."

I Corinthians 7:2 - "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

I Corinthians 7:4 - "The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife." [singular, you can't yield to multiple wives or husbands and become one flesh]

Ephesians 5:31 - "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh."
 
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VioletReigns said:
It is written:

Genesis 2:24 - “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Matthew 19:4-6 - "Have ye not read, that He [God] which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And [He] said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Mark 10:7,8 - "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they two shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh."

I Corinthians 7:2 - "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

I Corinthians 7:4 - "The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife."

Ephesians 5:31 - "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh."
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Nope. As we can see, there's nothing in the Bible to suggest that marriage is for two people, one of either sex. Nothing at all. ;) Thanks for sharing, sister. You beat me to it. :)
 
It's difficult enough for TWO people to try to get along in this life and pedal together. :rolleyes:

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Your assertions are false. Polygamy was practiced in the pagan world which Paul evangelized and polygamist families did get saved and enter New Testament churches. In fact, in 1 Timothy 3:2 Paul specifically requires that church overseers have only one wife for this reason and the reasons I previously listed in post #19.

My "theories," as you mistakenly call them, are actually the positions of Christianity's greatest biblical historians and theologians.

You are both historically and theologically wrong while the information I shared is taken from scholarly sources (available thru resellers such as Logos Bible Software).

Due to your colossal ignorance on this topic, I'm going to recommend you read introductions such as chapter 11 'Bride-Price? Polygamy, Concubinage, and Other Such Questions' from Paul Copan's 'Is God a Moral Monster?'



Bushido8000 said:
The new testament not leaving room for polygamy is due to the fact that polygamy isn't even around in the setting of the new Testament. Not because it was simply "done away with". They left the area where polygamy was culturally being practiced (and is still culturally being practiced). Why would you give people metaphors about trees when they have never seen or heard of one? And your theological theories would definitely nix polygamy, but unfortunately, they are just theological theories that must stretch to the conclusion that polygamy is wrong, because nowhere in the Bible does it hint that it is wrong for 1 man to have 2 wives.

Am I saying that polygamy is smart? Nope. One wife is more than enough for me haha.

What I'm saying is that equating polygamy to the BIBLICAL STATED SINFUL ACTS of homosexuality and bestiality is wrong in my opinion. If people choose to go that route (which I think is a silly choice), I think it should be legal to do so, just as it was legal in the OT.

I may be completely wrong about the subject, but again my opinion has yet to be refuted with scriptures.



I mean that the Bible doesn't forbid it (except for the special case of Deacons)
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dcontroversal said:
They already are....some chick married a building to save it from demolition and animals as well.........
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Perhaps the chick was attracted to females. Along with that, she then misinterprets the Commodores....

She's a brick house
Mighty might just lettin' it all hang out
She's a brick house...

She's the one, the only one,
who's built like a amazon [pronounced am-a-ka-zawn]
We're together everybody knows,
 
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Omni said:
So it's interesting to think that some people are so unaccustomed to and offended by it. On a global scale, it's actually more normal than monogamy.
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Global normalcy does not concern me, Omni!
 
Omni said:
It should, it's relevant to your beliefs and how they relate to the world you live in. A world which, by the way, is becoming smaller every minute.
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Global normalcy does not concern me, Omni! I want the truth. And only the truth.
 
ArtsieSteph said:
Ugh I'm waiting for people to try and start marrying animals and intimate objects...
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Pandora's box has been opened. Anything goes now! Yesterday's unthinkables are the reality of today and today's unthinkables will be the reality of tomorrow. Truly sad. :(
 
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