is your position that the Most High is prone to failing to keep His covenants?
because who paid the earnest? the LORD. not you.
so upon who is it incumbent to complete the transaction? the LORD. not you.
what God has called clean, let no man call unclean.
God's covenants are CONDITIONAL. You know, those pesky little "ifs" that so many people like to either ignore or try to explain away. I already cited two examples of the same in my first post here, two examples which nobody has adequately addressed, and I'll give another example now which ought to hit a little closer to home for you. Earlier today, you posted the following on another thread:
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...s-christians-1-peter-3-1-7-a.html#post2251686
posthuman said:
♥ qualities ♥
make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love.
For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
But whoever does not have them is nearsighted and blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their past sins.
(2 Peter 1:5-9)
I'll now cite the same, but I'll also include the next two verses:
"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ." (II Peter 1:5-11)
If OSAS is true, then why do we need to "give all diligence" to "add" the above things to our faith and why do we need to "give diligence to make our calling and election sure"? Well, Peter gave us the answer, didn't he? Yes, he did when he said "for IF you do these things, you shall never fall". Well, what's the flipside of this coin? Isn't it "IF you don't do these things, then you run the risk of falling"? Peter gave his readers the following warning:
"Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." (II Peter 3:17)
Again, why do BELIEVERS who are alleged permanently "sealed" need to "beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness"? "Ye also"? Yes, "ye also". IOW, Peter had just finished describing others who had already "been led away with the error of the wicked" and who had already "fallen from their own stedfastness" when he wrote:
"But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire." (II Peter 2:12-22)
Peter warned of those who:
A. Beguile unstable souls.
B. Have forsaken the right way and have gone astray
C. Who have followed the way of Balaam, a prophet of God who was later killed with the sword upon the Lord's command.
D. Allure through the lusts of the flesh those who had "clean" or "INDEED" (look it up) escaped from them who live in error.
E. Those who have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ only to later be entangled again therein and overcome.
F. Those whose latter end is worse with them than the beginning or those who had known the way of righteousness only to later turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
G. Those who have returned to their sins as a dog returns to his own vomit.
H. Those who have returned to their sins like a sow or pig that had been washed returns to wallowing in the mire or mud.
Despite all of these warnings to BELIEVERS, you still insist that OSAS is true. Don't kid yourself. It isn't. The entire Bible is LOADED with warning after warning after warning TO BELIEVERS and we'd all be wise to take heed unto the same. Anyhow, that list that I just gave adequately describes the "ye" to whom Peter was referring. IOW, it adequately describes those whose actions we ought not to follow lest we also fall from our own stedfastness and similarly perish.