why cessationism is wrong: good article

[Magenta]

I must also say that I am sorry for my change of font size and what not, I am new to Christian Chat and apparently I do not know how to keep everything the same font and size, I tried to fix it so that my message was a little more clear, but it said my 5 minutes of editing time had elapsed lol, please excuse my messy looking post, I am still learning the ropes

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[PeacefulWarrior]

Love is not the answer to what has transpired with peaceful warrior's posts....he has been disruptive, accusatory and actually very passive aggressive in his posts.

Immaturity and swinging at others is not love. Harrassing other believers and then accusing them of being the reason you leave is not love. That is passive aggression and immaturity.

I have been direct with you, and you have either ignored and/or twisted my words.

Love is always the answer. I am saddened that you do not understand (and furthermore, refuse to attempt).

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

why would you quote Romans 12:21 when referring to other believers?

are you convinced we are evil in some way and your 'good' must somehow overcome us?

I'm shaking my head here, because this is just nonsense IMO

She was not referring to people, but evil.

As usual, you pull your own new meaning out of others' words.

 

[theGeneral]

Love is not the answer to what has transpired with peaceful warrior's posts....he has been disruptive, accusatory and actually very passive aggressive in his posts.

No offence, but I see you have 5 posts, yet you write you are inspired by him.

Please, let's not hide behind so called love. Let's take the whole of scripture's counsel and not mistake alligator tears for hurt feelings.

Immaturity and swinging at others is not love. Harrassing other believers and then accusing them of being the reason you leave is not love. That is passive aggression and immaturity.

Then why do you do it Ember? Why not Practice what you preach? At least convalleria RESPECTFULLY replied to me, you are not respectful. You are harsh and unloving in the way you present things. I have followed these threads and read everything, you are lying to me right now if you accuse peacefulwarrior of these things THAT YOU DO! And you have stummbled a believer with your harsh actions and you really should be ashamed of yourself. You are hateful and unloving and only when you thought peaceful was on your side were you nice to him! When you found out that he might possibly not believe EXACTLY the same way as you do, you were hateful rude nasty and resorted to the childish action of name calling! How can you accuse someone of something that you yourself CONSTANTLY DO YOURSELF! Please take your own advice, you need it, I tried to speak of this with only love in my heart, but now your negativity is stumbling me too so I am done! I will no longer talk to you. But I will pray for you. God bless you sister

Take Jesus' words to heart my dear:
Matthew 7:2-4 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?"

 

[ember]

you are on ignore...both you and your friend

what you are doing is harrasement...and against the TOS

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

you are on ignore...

Which is why I am leaving the forums -- I refuse to participate in a hostile environment, where women (who should, by now, display more maturity than I) dish out blanket accusations without ever supporting their accusations. Where people are met with a disagreement and instead of discussing like civil people, resort to emotionally-charged accusations, slander, and offensive language. Where people choose to say their piece, and then ignore others.

I listened to you, you refused to do the same for me -- now you ignore me, and eliminate the possibility.

It's not just me -- it's a trend with you two. This forum is littered with evidence of you doing the same to others.

 

[theGeneral]

why would you quote Romans 12:21 when referring to other believers?

are you convinced we are evil in some way and your 'good' must somehow overcome us?

I'm shaking my head here, because this is just nonsense IMO

I was encouraging him---I was referensing evil not people!!! You are being discouraging and unloving, someone needed to build him up instead of tearing him down like you do!! Stop stumbling people on here, encourage them, love them treat them with love, do good, be Christlike! Stop stumbling and discouraging your fellow brothers and sisters in Jesus!

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

you are on ignore...both you and your friend

what you are doing is harrasement...and against the TOS

You are publicly guilty of that which you accuse me -- and others.

 

[theGeneral]

[you are on ignore...both you and your friend

what you are doing is harrasement...and against the TOS/QUOTE]

Not harrassment to try to encourage people to speak with love and respect while talking about the bible. Thank you for the ignore, now I don't have to worry about you being hateful to me for trying to help a fellow believer

 

[theGeneral]

[QUOTEWelcome to CC! Using the "Go Advanced" option may help ][/QUOTE]

Thank you Magenta, I am sorry I almost missed it due to the riff raff i will use the go advanced next time

 

[Magenta]

Thank you Magenta, I am sorry I almost missed it due to the riff raff i will use the go advanced next time

You are welcome Sometimes it takes a couple of views and edits to get the font sizes all right and matching etc, especially if you copy and paste anything from an outside source, or even from within your own message!

 

[theGeneral]

You are welcome Sometimes it takes a couple of views and edits to get the font sizes all right and matching etc, especially if you copy and paste anything from an outside source, or even from within your own message!

Thank you for the sweet advice What I have been doing on here is reading a lot! But I get nervous to type out responses because of my lack of knowledge in anything with computers and typing etc. I really appreciate the time you took to help me. This is a great example of the love I was talking about. I do so enjoy reading your posts and seeing your beautiful uplifting pictures you truly are an inspiration to me as well, I thank you

 

[Magenta]

Goodbye CC!

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[Magenta]

Thank you for the sweet advice What I have been doing on here is reading a lot! But I get nervous to type out responses because of my lack of knowledge in anything with computers and typing etc. I really appreciate the time you took to help me. This is a great example of the love I was talking about. I do so enjoy reading your posts and seeing your beautiful uplifting pictures you truly are an inspiration to me as well, I thank you

Thank you, I am happy to be of service And I appreciate being appreciated, thank you for letting me know you enjoy my posts and pix

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

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If these folks apologize or become banned, I'll stay.
Otherwise, I'm outta here!

Much love for you, Magenta, appreciate your posts of encouragement on these forums.

 

[Magenta]

If these folks apologize or become banned, I'll stay.
Otherwise, I'm outta here!

Much love for you, Magenta, appreciate your posts of encouragement on these forums.

I will be sad to see you go. But could you not instead simply stop interacting with those who aggravate you to such an extent? You can walk away without leaving...

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Which is why I am leaving the forums -- I refuse to participate in a hostile environment, where women (who should, by now, display more maturity than I) dish out blanket accusations without ever supporting their accusations. Where people are met with a disagreement and instead of discussing like civil people, resort to emotionally-charged accusations, slander, and offensive language. Where people choose to say their piece, and then ignore others.

I listened to you, you refused to do the same for me -- now you ignore me, and eliminate the possibility.

It's not just me -- it's a trend with you two. This forum is littered with evidence of you doing the same to others.

I don't know what's going on between you and ember (I haven't been following this thread), but there's no need to leave. Hey, you're the only friend that I've got...and I can't afford to buy another. lol. Seriously, if you two cannot get along for whatever reason, then that doesn't mean that you still cannot fellowship with others here.

 

[keepitsimple]

That's why they ended. If you attempt to make them part of the modern church you open the door for the great deception. There are no new prophets and no new apostles.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

You seem to know very little about the missions field. People operate in the gifting of an apostle and prophet all of the time in areas where the gospel is just being heard for the first time. The role of the Apostle is to plant churches and raise up pastors & teachers. The role of the prophet and evangelist often times works in unison with one another to bring correction and accountability. Keep in mind I am referring to operating in the gift of apostle & prophet. Not recognizing them as an office or title.

I'm very surprised how easy it is for people to dismiss things that they know practically nothing about.

I freely admit that I know practically nothing about the point you're attempting to make ... unless you are agreeing with Roger's stated sentiment (and mine) that there are no new apostles and prophets today ? How else can it be explained that they are not as much (apostles and prophets) in your view as well since you openly declare that you don't recognize them as such via office or title ? Seems to me that you are saying that you believe in the "gifts" of the five-fold ministry ... but don't want to declare yourself a five-fold ministry proponent ? How is that even possible ? Is one who teaches not a teacher ? Is one who evangelizes not an evangelist ? Is one who shepherds a church not a pastor ? We can't have our cake and eat it too. It either is ... or it isn't.

 

[convallaria]

Then why do you do it Ember? Why not Practice what you preach? At least convalleria RESPECTFULLY replied to me, you are not respectful. You are harsh and unloving in the way you present things. I have followed these threads and read everything, you are lying to me right now if you accuse peacefulwarrior of these things THAT YOU DO! And you have stummbled a believer with your harsh actions and you really should be ashamed of yourself. You are hateful and unloving and only when you thought peaceful was on your side were you nice to him! When you found out that he might possibly not believe EXACTLY the same way as you do, you were hateful rude nasty and resorted to the childish action of name calling! How can you accuse someone of something that you yourself CONSTANTLY DO YOURSELF! Please take your own advice, you need it, I tried to speak of this with only love in my heart, but now your negativity is stumbling me too so I am done! I will no longer talk to you. But I will pray for you. God bless you sister

Take Jesus' words to heart my dear:
Matthew 7:2-4 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?4"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?"

Nooooooooooo this is accusing others of doing something that isn't true.

The lies and hostility appear to be coming from you TheGeneral, and PeacefulWarrior, you have been stirring things up somewhat royally! Clearly there has been an agenda going on from the beginning and I definitely sensed something fishy afoot a little while back. Had fun?

I must say PW it is somewhat narcissistic to throw a tantrum and threaten to leave because people haven't replied to some of your posts: we aren't obliged to do so, you know, it is up to us to decide...not for you to control. I know you are going to say that it isn't loving to ignore people, but neither is it loving to allow them to labour under heretical doctrines and even defend their hatefulness towards us like you did! You think that is Godly? I don't.

Best advice I can think of is, both of you, when someone admonishes you in the Lord, take it on the chin and listen. There are quite a few here who are mature enough to do that and who are ready to help you, so don't fight against them, be humble, and once admonished, take your issues to the prayer closet.

If you can't do that I can tell you, from personal experience, you will face the same issues over and over again until you learn something.

Uh oh...I get it....that is why you were called WOUNDED warrior! Now I see the picture.

Bye for now!

 

[keepitsimple]

Clearly there has been an agenda going on from the beginning and I definitely sensed something fishy afoot a little while back. Had fun?

I think it fair to say that every time one of us starts a thread on a controversial topic, we have an agenda.