Two US TV journalists shot dead on air

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​Explain how that has anything to do with the topic at hand please.
and whats this to do with the topic at hand.

What you are saying is against what the Bible teaches.I assume you are Catholic. A person cannot be saved after death,we have to make our choice while still here on earth.(your quote)
 
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If you have something to say,have the courage to say it to me not about me.I know the difference and if you were a gentleman you'd conduct yourself differently.I have never said anything against you for you to talk about me and mock me behind my back.According to the Bible one cannot be saved after they die.I assumed you were Catholic because you were espousing that belief.Christians do not believe you can be saved after you die.I'd appreciate if you'd drop the attitude and speak like a man,not a kid in high school. I dont come here for sarcasm and childishness.Make your point without being nasty about it.Thanks
you should join the wiz kids, even they can tell jesus was raised from the dead.
again your blindness is plain to see., not my problem, your to blind to see what i said.

and who raised jesus fron the dead,


What you are saying is against what the Bible teaches.I assume you are Catholic. A person cannot be saved after death,we have to make our choice while still here on earth.(your quote)

strange jesus was saved after death. and you said a person cant be saved after death.

and if there is a resurrection , i will let you figure the rest out.

if you cant keep up, go back to bible school, and stop wasting my time with your rants. and religious bigotry.

by the christian means someone that believe jesus christ is the saviour.

I dont come here for sarcasm and childishness.Make your point (your quote) i did make a point, your talking rubbish.
 
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Im sorry,Im feeling rather attacked in this thread.I would leave it but I feel so strongly about what I believe.The post I wrote with the excerpts may better explain what I believe.Thank you Miss Violet,I have always had respect for you,I still do.Have a blessed day.
there is a difference between strong and correct. and you have been proved wrong, how many times.
 
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and whats this to do with the topic at hand.

What you are saying is against what the Bible teaches.I assume you are Catholic. A person cannot be saved after death,we have to make our choice while still here on earth.(your quote)

Christians dont believe you can be saved after death. You do?
 
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you should join the wiz kids, even they can tell jesus was raised from the dead.
again your blindness is plain to see., not my problem, your to blind to see what i said.

and who raised jesus fron the dead,


What you are saying is against what the Bible teaches.I assume you are Catholic. A person cannot be saved after death,we have to make our choice while still here on earth.(your quote)

strange jesus was saved after death. and you said a person cant be saved after death.

and if there is a resurrection , i will let you figure the rest out.

if you cant keep up, go back to bible school, and stop wasting my time with your rants. and religious bigotry.

by the christian means someone that believe jesus christ is the saviour.

I dont come here for sarcasm and childishness.Make your point (your quote) i did make a point, your talking rubbish.
A person cannot be born again and accept Christ after they have died. Drop the sarcasm and talk about the points we're making. You dont need to make immature swipes to get your point across.Have a grown up discussion.Christ was raised from the dead,that has nothing to do with someone asking Christ into their hearts and being born again.
 
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there is a difference between strong and correct. and you have been proved wrong, how many times.
No,I havent been proven wrong you keep coming back with your own opinions. That doesn't make the other person wrong.You cannot be born again after you have died.The Bible does not teach that.


Luke 16....There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
 
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No Jesus said no to us being vigilantes,he did not say no to capitol punishment.Please see my previous post.
I did see your original post and I do not follow Apologetics Press because I have read a few things from them that did not follow the bible.

Capital punishment was supported in the OT but it is not to be supported by believers in Christ under the new covenant.
Where is love, mercy, and forgiveness in capital punishment to the one who is being put to death? There is none and instead of leaving the life and death decision of the individual to God you are putting that decision in your own hands.

We are called to put them in prison then we are told to minister to them, not put them to death.
 

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I did see your original post and I do not follow Apologetics Press because I have read a few things from them that did not follow the bible.

Capital punishment was supported in the OT but it is not to be supported by believers in Christ under the new covenant.
Where is love, mercy, and forgiveness in capital punishment to the one who is being put to death? There is none and instead of leaving the life and death decision of the individual to God you are putting that decision in your own hands.

We are called to put them in prison then we are told to minister to them, not put them to death.
The church is not called to put people to death, this is true. But isn't the power to kill for purposes of order vested in the government?
 

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Also, I don't know how many of you have seen the videos from both angles. It's absolutely horrifying.

Maybe it is the fact that I have joined the cruel world of adults, but lately humanity has seemed so sickening to me. We rejoice in death; reducing our fellow man to numbers in an ideological or economic equation. Wrongs or ills are somehow righted in perverted minds by a blood sacrifice. White blood, black blood, the blood of the unborn.

We need a Peaceable Kingdom and, while the Lord tarries, a virtuous republic. A place where people understand the place of love in the social order. Until then, we will be Cains looking upon Abels in jealousy and acrimony.
 
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Also, I don't know how many of you have seen the videos from both angles. It's absolutely horrifying.

Maybe it is the fact that I have joined the cruel world of adults, but lately humanity has seemed so sickening to me. We rejoice in death; reducing our fellow man to numbers in an ideological or economic equation. Wrongs or ills are somehow righted in perverted minds by a blood sacrifice. White blood, black blood, the blood of the unborn.

We need a Peaceable Kingdom and, while the Lord tarries, a virtuous republic. A place where people understand the place of love in the social order. Until then, we will be Cains looking upon Abels in jealousy and acrimony.
Humans are clearly the nasties species on the planet. Most animals act out of pure instinct where humans act with intent, and in this case want to film it too!

I don't blame God for any of this, something else is at work here.
 
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you assume wrong, if you dont understand ,what has already been posted. dont speculate. and by your choice, you saved your self, is this what your saying.

.9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
Romans 14: Do Not Pass Judgment on One Another
Jesus is Lord of all regardless. He is not Savior of all. Being the "Lord of the dead" simply means He has authority over them, and is responsible for sending them to their eternal punishment as a result of their own self-condemnation by rejecting Him during their earthly lives.
 
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Unfollowing thread -- PM me if you need anything. :)
 
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The church is not called to put people to death, this is true. But isn't the power to kill for purposes of order vested in the government?
Yes it is.As the verse in my post said "they do not bear the sword in vain" Those in authority have the right to use capitol punishment as is warranted.
 
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Yes it is.As the verse in my post said "they do not bear the sword in vain" Those in authority have the right to use capitol punishment as is warranted.
Romans 13:1-4.
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.
 
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This happened near Bell City close to the large City of Lake Charles in my State.
 
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This happened near Bell City close to the large City of Lake Charles in my State.

Still unbelievable...I only watched one of the videos.I couldnt watch the one the murderer put on FB.All I saw was his gun and had to stop the video.Just cant imagine the fear they felt at their last moments.Horrible.
 
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No,I havent been proven wrong you keep coming back with your own opinions. That doesn't make the other person wrong.You cannot be born again after you have died.The Bible does not teach that.


Luke 16....There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
can you prove gentile was present here. so next
 
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Jesus is Lord of all regardless. He is not Savior of all. Being the "Lord of the dead" simply means He has authority over them, and is responsible for sending them to their eternal punishment as a result of their own self-condemnation by rejecting Him during their earthly lives.
18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. next.
 
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A person cannot be born again and accept Christ after they have died. Drop the sarcasm and talk about the points we're making. You dont need to make immature swipes to get your point across.Have a grown up discussion.Christ was raised from the dead,that has nothing to do with someone asking Christ into their hearts and being born again.
answer in context to what i said. not your idea of what i said. next