Is the Devil bound right now...?

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Is Satan bound right now?

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Bowman

Bowman

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Ahwatukee said:


Ok, are you ready? Here is the scripture:

"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

The above is scripture from Revelation and is not my own opinion, but is verbatim. If you will read it just as it is stated, there is only one interpretation and conclusion that you can come to . So let's break the scripture down:

* John sees an Angel coming down out of heaven
* The angel has the key to the Abyss and a great chain in his hand
* The angel seizes the dragon, who is that ancient serpent, the devil and Satan
* The angel binds Satan for a thousand years and throws him into the Abyss and locked and sealed it over him
* By throwing Satan into the Abyss, he is kept from deceiving the nations during that thousand years
* At the end of the thousand years, Satan is released

You wanted scripture and there it is. The only way that you can make that say anything other than what it says is to spiritualize it. If I have copied and pasted the actual scripture, then you cannot accuse me of claiming my own opinion. I pray to God that you will abandon the spiritualization of scripture and take it at face value.


If the literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense. Stop spiritualizing what is meant to be literal.
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Absolutely nothing in your reply would indicate a literal 1K years.
 
Bowman

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Cassian said:
Scriptural, theological, and historical facts. Facts which you have been unable to refute. You state your opinion, but cannot produce any evidence regarding what you are stating. What good is exegesis when you cannot understand the meaning of the text. You are exhibiting the same denial in I Cor 15:22. Read carefully what it states and read it without your personal view clouding your understanding.
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Stop editorializing and talk to scripture.



I'll give you a hint. Does it say Christ gave life by His death or by His resurrection? Granted, it was through death that is was accomplished, but death is NOT defeated simply by dying. The binding of Satan is all about ending his power of death.
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Looks like you are still stuck in your hard-loop...
 
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Cassian

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Bowman said:
Stop editorializing and talk to scripture.





Looks like you are still stuck in your hard-loop...
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Where is your evidence to refute it? You have failed to refute it by all three ways, scripturally, theologically, and historically. You just keep repeating your non substantive cycle with no explanation and your OP is now at 462 posts. All you have is an empty opinion.
 
Bowman

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You're stuck...

Cassian said:
Where is your evidence to refute it? You have failed to refute it by all three ways, scripturally, theologically, and historically. You just keep repeating your non substantive cycle with no explanation and your OP is now at 462 posts. All you have is an empty opinion.
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Your hard-loop continues...lol...
 
Bowman

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Re: You're stuck...


Bowman: 'Ready to discuss scripture, yet?'

Cassian: '2,000 years of catholic history can’t be wrong….arghhhhhh!!!'
 
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Cassian

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Re: You're stuck...

Bowman said:

Bowman: 'Ready to discuss scripture, yet?'

Cassian: '2,000 years of catholic history can’t be wrong….arghhhhhh!!!'
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Discussed scripture several times already and you have been unable to refute scripture. I also explained it theologically and you did no refute that either. I also stated that it has been held as I stated it historically since the beginning. You have not refuted that either.

If you think the Church Christ established has it wrong, show where it is incorrect and when it was made incorrect and by whom. At this point you cannot even justify your view outside of your personal opinion. Hardly makes it Gospel Truth from the beginning.

So for, you are all bluster and nothing substantive and it is your OP.
 
Bowman

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Re: You're stuck...

Cassian said:
Discussed scripture several times already and you have been unable to refute scripture. I also explained it theologically and you did no refute that either. I also stated that it has been held as I stated it historically since the beginning. You have not refuted that either.

If you think the Church Christ established has it wrong, show where it is incorrect and when it was made incorrect and by whom. At this point you cannot even justify your view outside of your personal opinion. Hardly makes it Gospel Truth from the beginning.

So for, you are all bluster and nothing substantive and it is your OP.
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You have yet to post ANYTHING scriptural past a name and a number.

 
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Cassian

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Bowman said:
You have yet to post ANYTHING scriptural past a name and a number.
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I is quite obvious you have nothing substantive since you continue with the cop-out responses. There is no need for me to continue since you are unable to refute what I have posted.
 
Bowman

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You have nothing.

Cassian said:
I is quite obvious you have nothing substantive since you continue with the cop-out responses. There is no need for me to continue since you are unable to refute what I have posted.
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Come back when you can stop incessantly accusing, and actually talk to scripture.
 
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KennethC

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Bowman said:
Christ's final return occurs at the end of the present 1K reign.






We are in The Great Tribulation....however, no time increment was established in scripture...
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No the book of Revelation clearly shows His return is before the millennial, not after, as He leads the charge against the man of sin and false prophet and casts them into the lake of fire at the end of the great tribulation.

The bible does give a time frame for this period as tribulation is given 7 years by the book of Daniel, and the man of sin is given the last 1,260 days (3 1/2 years) to kill Jews and Christians <-----This is the great tribulation, not the time frame we are in now.

The book of Daniel adds to it also when he mentions 1,290 days and 1,335 days, and this is because those extra 30 and 45 days are for Armageddon and God's wrath.

1,260 days appointed to the man of sin + 30 = 1,290 days for Armageddon + 45 = 1,335 days for God's wrath.
 
Bowman

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KennethC said:
No the book of Revelation clearly shows His return is before the millennial, not after, as He leads the charge against the man of sin and false prophet and casts them into the lake of fire at the end of the great tribulation.

The bible does give a time frame for this period as tribulation is given 7 years by the book of Daniel, and the man of sin is given the last 1,260 days (3 1/2 years) to kill Jews and Christians <-----This is the great tribulation, not the time frame we are in now.

The book of Daniel adds to it also when he mentions 1,290 days and 1,335 days, and this is because those extra 30 and 45 days are for Armageddon and God's wrath.

1,260 days appointed to the man of sin + 30 = 1,290 days for Armageddon + 45 = 1,335 days for God's wrath.
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What specific scripture are you using for each of your points...?

 
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KennethC

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Bowman said:
What specific scripture are you using for each of your points...?
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It is not one specific scripture as it takes all the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Revelation, and the writings of the Lord from the gospel books as well as those from Apostle Paul to.
 
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KennethC

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KennethC said:
It is not one specific scripture as it takes all the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Revelation, and the writings of the Lord from the gospel books as well as those from Apostle Paul to.
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Still in a nutshell here is the order: gathering, God's wrath poured out, Lord returns, Armageddon, satan bound, Millennial reign, satan released, satan cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are as they were cast there at Armageddon.
 
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Powemm

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It is written.... It is finished
 
Bowman

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KennethC said:
Still in a nutshell here is the order: gathering, God's wrath poured out, Lord returns, Armageddon, satan bound, Millennial reign, satan released, satan cast into the lake of fire where the beast and false prophet are as they were cast there at Armageddon.
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That does not follow scripture...
 
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the_sign

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Satan was bound in terms of the First Day of the First Year of Judgment, September 1, 2015 A.D., the Day of Indiction, upon him to eternal fire, but he still managed to attack me on Monday, September 7, 2015 A.D.
 
Bowman

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the_sign said:
Satan was bound in terms of the First Day of the First Year of Judgment, September 1, 2015 A.D., the Day of Indiction, upon him to eternal fire, but he still managed to attack me on Monday, September 7, 2015 A.D.
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Are you sure that it wasn't a demon instead....?
 
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Ariel82

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valiant said:
LOL why do you think that we can resist the Devil? It is because he is bound. If he were not, none could resist his will.
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Do you worship Satan?

The only person I can't resist is God.

Even the weakest child of God is stronger than the ruler of demons.
 
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