Are you a Prophet?

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That would depend if you knew what a prophet actually is. It is God Who calls and equips, not man...those would be false prophets. So since it is God Who calls and equips, if we know that is what we are, there is no point in boasting because we know that we were nothing of the sort before God did it, so we give Him ALL the glory.

You think Elijah went around apologizing for who he was, and trying not to be noticed? Think on.
Another one with false visions of self grandeur.:rolleyes:
 

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So you don't believe in apostles either? Hmmm
If you were a prophetess you would have known.
Apostles are sent ones directly by Jesus. They were witnesses of Jesus and His resurrection. What they wrote were as good as Scripture.
Can you name any today?

Acts 1:21-22 (KJV)
21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
On a minor level 'sent ones' we call missionaries.
 
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I don't usually announce my office publicly. I have done so here, because we are making a point for conversation and learning purposes.

Almost all the prophets were hated and murdered by those who held to the letter [worshipers of the bible\Torah] and not the spirit. And it is the same today. When Jesus returns many in the church will fight against Him.
False. When Jesus returns He will bring His Church with Him...

1 Thessalonians 3:13 (KJV) To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
 

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You know sometimes we are called to be more than one thing. Me for instance I have told God many times that I am a wonder card for him, I will be whatever he desires me to be and will do whatever he needs me to do I am not a single thing if he so desires then I can be a prophet I can be a teacher I can be a servant I can be a care giver I can be a healer I can be an apostle ect. I am clay in his hands I have no specific form no specific role I simply bend to his will and his desire, the bible never said that there wouldn't be any more apostles after the twelve did it? so how can you be sure that someone isn't an apostle?
Blain, that's simply unscriptural and silly...silly putty in His Hand. He gives gifts without repentance. We don't put on different hats each day.
 
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Did Russell take his medicine today?
 
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Did Russell take his medicine today?
...and on the bottom of your post you have......

Ephesians 4:32
Be ye
kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Jesus sake forgave you.




 
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James 3:1-18
1My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. 2For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. 3Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. 4Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. 5Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! 6And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
13Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
 
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...and on the bottom of your post you have......
Ephesians 4:32
Be ye
kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Jesus sake forgave you.




I am not angry at him. I seriously think he needs help.
 
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... the bible never said that there wouldn't be any more apostles after the twelve did it?
so how can you be sure that someone isn't an apostle?
(Robin)
Ummmm ... you are correct, the NT scriptures don't, exactly, say there wont be any more apostles after the twelve ...

[or was that thirteen, since Matthias was chosen to replace Judas ... speaking of which, there was particular qualifications involved in these men being selected; seems it has something to do with direct conteact with Christ ... ummmm?]

... doesn't, exactly say there wont be any more apostles after Matthias, but there is Paul (direct contact with the Risen Christ),
who gives us this, interesting little bit of information:


4:9* Δοκῶ γὰρ ὅτι ὁ θεὸς ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀποστόλους ἐσχάτους ἀπέδειξεν ὡς ἐπιθανατίους· ὅτι θέατρον
ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ, καὶ ἀγγέλοις, καὶ ἀνθρώποις.

"For I suppose that the God (to us, the last apostles), as to on-deathed [ones], He had away-shown that we had become theater unto the world-system, and unto messengers, and unto humanity." (~Robin)

(Blain)...f he so desires then I can be a prophet I can be a teacher I can be a servant I can be a care giver I can be a healer I can be an apostle ect.

(Robin)
Think you should aim for what's behind door number three, the "etcetera" ... "and other things" from the Latin phrase "and the rest," which in turn is a calque from the Greek "kai ta hectare" or "kai ta loipa" ..."and the remainder" or other things.

But then, perhaps you have been waylaid on the road to Damascus, by the risen Christ ... and are intended to be "theater,"be that God intended theater, not the silly, manmade comedy act that RussellJBenigno is dangerously playing at.
 
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James 3:1-18
1My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. 2For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. 3Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. 4Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. 5Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! 6And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
13Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.
That is true amongst sheep.
We can't be silent amongst wolves.
 
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That is true amongst sheep.
We can't be silent amongst wolves.
.......Indeed!

Luke 8:16-18

16No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. 17For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. 18Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

1 Peter 3:8-13
8Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.10For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:11Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.13And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

Psalm 141:2-10
2Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.
3Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.
4Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.
5Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities.
6When their judges are overthrown in stony places, they shall hear my words; for they are sweet.
7Our bones are scattered at the grave's mouth, as when one cutteth and cleaveth wood upon the earth.
8But mine eyes are unto thee, O GOD the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute.
9Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity.
10Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.

1 Peter 2:21-25
21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
 

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Blain, that's simply unscriptural and silly...silly putty in His Hand. He gives gifts without repentance. We don't put on different hats each day.
How is it unscriptural and silly for me to give complete surrender to his will? I am clay in his hands because I do not limit God to his usage of me, this isn't about gifts to me it's about me wanting to give him the desires of his heart. He has done so much for me he has been so gracious and has been so generous in abundance in helping me grow in him and grow close to him he has protected me has has supplied me he has given me more than what I need and has blessed me with my cc family and others in my life who care about me.

I only desire to give him what he desires and if that requires that he asks me to do things that are not my original gifts then I consider it the highest honor, you may think it sounds silly but it's a very personal and special thing between him and I, one of deep endearment and love. Think of this if you will, when you are a Christian are you not clay in his hands? does he not mold you into his image? does he not form you into perfection and make you who you were always meant to be?
 
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I was reading the concordance in regards to prophets. I got a few things that stuck with me. One was that a prophet doesn't Just know God's plan or words, He or she feels them. They become part of their awareness. This can be seen somewhat in the way prophets responded to God's speaking to them. They didn't just say,oh that's nice, they were deeply move emotionally,feel over, couldn't talk. were very troubled,They deeply felt Gods mind and heart. And that what the con. brought out. It is not just a thought.Speaking for myself I feel the God exspans the picture, that prophets see a bigger picture, or the context of the word to be spoken. Another thing, false prophets speak a lot of peace and safety, to trust in your own strength and not in God. To look for the worldly way out. Not always. One thing I read the other day seemed to say that the scripture was" when that which is perfect has come" thus eliminating the gifts. Cor. says that to every member a measure of the gift of Christ is given to profit with all. And this measure of Christ in us that holds us ,grows us together. Faith and hope are surely not done away with and as scripture says if we have what we hope for ,why do we yet hope for it. The scripture is not complete or perfect, it is written the the world could not contain the books needed to tell the whole story. Paul say he runs as not having attained or won already the race set before us.I guess this is where I have a problem with OSAS, not to start anything here.with so many warning about continuing and falling away, But I do feel God won't forsake me, unless I forsake him after ha has given me everything pertaining to godliness.The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit and never can. Our only hope is that the Spirit of God reveals them unto us. And my view is that Christ in other members can minister the grace and gift he has given them to me. That every joint supplieth. The hand cannot say to the eye " I have no need of you" I really see the false gifts abounding in modern Christianity today as a way the truth is evil spoken of and it reminds me of the strong delusion God will send on the earth. And except those day be shortened no one would be saved and as Jesus said when I return will I find faith on earth?
 

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How is it unscriptural and silly for me to give complete surrender to his will? I am clay in his hands because I do not limit God to his usage of me, this isn't about gifts to me it's about me wanting to give him the desires of his heart. He has done so much for me he has been so gracious and has been so generous in abundance in helping me grow in him and grow close to him he has protected me has has supplied me he has given me more than what I need and has blessed me with my cc family and others in my life who care about me.

I only desire to give him what he desires and if that requires that he asks me to do things that are not my original gifts then I consider it the highest honor, you may think it sounds silly but it's a very personal and special thing between him and I, one of deep endearment and love. Think of this if you will, when you are a Christian are you not clay in his hands? does he not mold you into his image? does he not form you into perfection and make you who you were always meant to be?
There are varieties of results, but it is the same God who produces all the results in everyone. To each person has been given the ability to manifest the Spirit for the common good. To one has been given a message of wisdom by the Spirit; to another the ability to speak with knowledge according to the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit; to another miraculous results; to another prophecy; to another the ability to distinguish between spirits; to another various kinds of languages; and to another the interpretation of languages.
(1Co 12:6-10)

Blain, there is nothing wrong with presenting your members for His service, but to think one day He gives you one gift another day or month another gift and so on is not scriptural. I showed you my position using Scripture, please show me your position using Scripture.
 

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What are the qualifications to be a prophet?

That is a very key thing here.

Off the top of my head I know they were always 100 percent right because it was the Holy Spirit speaking thru them and not themselves.

What others were there?
 

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What are the qualifications to be a prophet?

That is a very key thing here.

Off the top of my head I know they were always 100 percent right because it was the Holy Spirit speaking thru them and not themselves.

What others were there?
Now you may ask yourselves, 'How will we be able to discern that the LORD has not spoken?' Whenever a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, and the oracle does not come about or the word is not fulfilled, then the LORD has not spoken it. The prophet will have spoken presumptuously, so you need not fear him."
(Deu 18:21-22)
It's easy to run around hinting at being a prophet pffft.
Once they say something to the effect of, "Thus says the Lord da da da"
They may say they are a prophet but if what they say does not come to pass then they are a prophet alright..a FALSE PROPHET.

Don't be fooled by those who hint at it but make no solid declarations on the order of "Thus says the Lord" or who speak contrary to God's Word.

"A prophet or a diviner of dreams may arise among you, give you an omen or a miracle that takes place, and then he may tell you, 'Let's follow other gods (whom you have not known) and let's serve them.' Even though the sign or portent comes to pass, you must not listen to the words of that prophet or that diviner of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to make known whether or not you'll continue to love the LORD your God with all your heart and soul.
(Deu 13:1-3)
He must always point people to the true God in Christ Jesus
 
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what ever or who ever someone thinks they are, that is their reality...

what or who Jesus Christ thinks they are, is His reality...

if we are on His journey, then eventually His reality will become ours....
it's really not about what we want to be, or our dreams, it is the Will of God
that stands...




our Father has a great check on 'boastfulness', for it is written,
he that exalts himself is condemned in the eyes of God.'
 
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I am not angry at him. I seriously think he needs help.
Your comment was unkind and you should have kept it to yourself. If the Lord is alerting you to something sensitive, (which I doubt in this instance) pray first, because there is no shortage of people who will would like to jump in and agree with unkindness.
 
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(Robin)
Ummmm ... you are correct, the NT scriptures don't, exactly, say there wont be any more apostles after the twelve ...

[or was that thirteen, since Matthias was chosen to replace Judas ... speaking of which, there was particular qualifications involved in these men being selected; seems it has something to do with direct conteact with Christ ... ummmm?]

... doesn't, exactly say there wont be any more apostles after Matthias, but there is Paul (direct contact with the Risen Christ),
who gives us this, interesting little bit of information:


4:9* Δοκῶ γὰρ ὅτι ὁ θεὸς ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀποστόλους ἐσχάτους ἀπέδειξεν ὡς ἐπιθανατίους· ὅτι θέατρον
ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ, καὶ ἀγγέλοις, καὶ ἀνθρώποις.

"For I suppose that the God (to us, the last apostles), as to on-deathed [ones], He had away-shown that we had become theater unto the world-system, and unto messengers, and unto humanity." (~Robin)

(Blain)...f he so desires then I can be a prophet I can be a teacher I can be a servant I can be a care giver I can be a healer I can be an apostle ect.

(Robin)
Think you should aim for what's behind door number three, the "etcetera" ... "and other things" from the Latin phrase "and the rest," which in turn is a calque from the Greek "kai ta hectare" or "kai ta loipa" ..."and the remainder" or other things.

But then, perhaps you have been waylaid on the road to Damascus, by the risen Christ ... and are intended to be "theater,"be that God intended theater, not the silly, manmade comedy act that RussellJBenigno is dangerously playing at.
Proper reference please and BTW you have bracketed your own assumption that they were the last apostles, which is in conflict with scripture, esp Ephesians 4.
 
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.......Indeed!

Luke 8:16-18

16No man, when he hath lighted a candle, covereth it with a vessel, or putteth it under a bed; but setteth it on a candlestick, that they which enter in may see the light. 17For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. 18Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have.

1 Peter 3:8-13
8Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.10For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:11Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
12For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.13And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

Psalm 141:2-10
2Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.
3Set a watch, O LORD, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.
4Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.
5Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities.
6When their judges are overthrown in stony places, they shall hear my words; for they are sweet.
7Our bones are scattered at the grave's mouth, as when one cutteth and cleaveth wood upon the earth.
8But mine eyes are unto thee, O GOD the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute.
9Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity.
10Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.

1 Peter 2:21-25
21For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 22Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 23Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: 24Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. 25For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

AMEN thank You Jesus.