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Disobedience is expressed throughout the bible in the NT, and it says clearly those who are disobedient will be cast into outer darkness, told He never knew them, will face God's wrath, be appointed with the unbelievers, and sent to eternal punishment.
Here are a few scriptures on disobedience but there are many more...........
21 Bible verses about Disobedience, To God
Also anybody can easily do a research on obedience in the bible and there is over 100+ scriptures throughout the bible in both OT and NT alike. To spend that much emphasis on obedience and disobedience needs to be taken seriously !!!
Here are a few scriptures on disobedience but there are many more...........
21 Bible verses about Disobedience, To God
Also anybody can easily do a research on obedience in the bible and there is over 100+ scriptures throughout the bible in both OT and NT alike. To spend that much emphasis on obedience and disobedience needs to be taken seriously !!!
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Loving the LORD ALL THE TIME is not hard... if you are committed to do so. It is a RELATIONSHIP with God. I don't understand why people keep ranting GRACE GRACE GRACE and then want to attack the people who look to the WORD to develop our intimate relationship with the LORD. SHEESH... and the "slithery" adjectives are not LOST or SECRET to the Lord who is WATCHING what you are doing!!!! Loving God is not hard, except that... He IS God and we are NOT... which pretty much distinguished the authority order in that respect. However, in authentic relationships... you LOVE ALL THE TIME... irrespective of the moments when there might be a "conflict" that causes some sort of "crisis"... YOU STILL LOVE!!! But then again since this concept seems LOST to some to comprehend... I kinda feel bad for the other party they are in relationship WITH.
I am not a legalist... I DO have a personal relationship with the LORD.... P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L.... because God is a PERSON and intimate because I seek to know HIM thru the word... Jesus Christ and the FATHER... as they are ONE.
I am not a legalist... I DO have a personal relationship with the LORD.... P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L.... because God is a PERSON and intimate because I seek to know HIM thru the word... Jesus Christ and the FATHER... as they are ONE.
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At first I wondered why you asked such a question but the remainder of your post reveals the answer. You lack a correct understanding of salvation.
Baptism of the Holy Spirit occurs the moment we receive Christ as our Savior. Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit upon those in the upper room before Pentecost. John 20 compared with Acts 2.
The Philippian jailer asked what he must do to be saved and was not told to be baptized but to believe. Water baptism has no effect on ones salvation. We who are saved are saved by grace and not works. We receive the faith to receive grace by hearing the word of God and not through water baptism.
Anything built on a faulty knowledge of salvation is doomed to failure.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Baptism of the Holy Spirit occurs the moment we receive Christ as our Savior. Jesus breathed the Holy Spirit upon those in the upper room before Pentecost. John 20 compared with Acts 2.
The Philippian jailer asked what he must do to be saved and was not told to be baptized but to believe. Water baptism has no effect on ones salvation. We who are saved are saved by grace and not works. We receive the faith to receive grace by hearing the word of God and not through water baptism.
Anything built on a faulty knowledge of salvation is doomed to failure.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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This is so important to see and understand. That Jesus wasn't raising the bar and instituting an even more burdensome system of rules and regulations. But that He was burying us. Removing any hope we might have of ever making ourselves acceptable to a perfect God. It is vital to our seeing the reality that Jesus is not merely our hope, but our only hope.
K
Your own statement proves you wrong as those in the upper room where already believers before that point !!!
The only other passages in the bible that show the Holy Spirit given before baptism is Acts 10-15 and anybody who can read clearly can see this was only done to prove to the Jewish believers that Gentiles have the same right to salvation through the Lord as them.
The ones in the upper room are not the same as those spoken of in Acts 2:38 and Acts 3:19.
Also I think you need to look again at verse 33..........
(Acts 16:23) And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
The only other passages in the bible that show the Holy Spirit given before baptism is Acts 10-15 and anybody who can read clearly can see this was only done to prove to the Jewish believers that Gentiles have the same right to salvation through the Lord as them.
The ones in the upper room are not the same as those spoken of in Acts 2:38 and Acts 3:19.
Also I think you need to look again at verse 33..........
(Acts 16:23) And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
Another thing, there is but One. However, He gave Law because that is what the people wanted. They sought righteousness that was not of faith but performance. They could "do all the Lord commands and obey." Remember? The thing is, the Law cannot save. Righteousness has never been by works or self-righteousness. Righteousness, the kind God accepts, has always been the righteousness of faith. It is a righteousness that is deemed by God through faith and not of works. Look at Abraham to get a picture of it.
