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Then why do we have the Geneva convention? (which Israel ignored).
The problem is just because Israel is in the bible you think it is not subject to the same scrutiny that is applied to everyone else. Countries like America and Australia and the west in general are hypocrites in the way they expect everyone else to abide by rules of war and treatment of civilians, when they turn a blind eye to what Israel does. Remember the uproar when Russia attacked Georgia?
I think God is on the Palestinians side what do you think? Afterall, Israel hasn't been able to destroy them, or win against them, so they are obviously under God's protection
. (using the same faulty logic that people use to explain Israels prevalance in past wars).
The problem is just because Israel is in the bible you think it is not subject to the same scrutiny that is applied to everyone else. Countries like America and Australia and the west in general are hypocrites in the way they expect everyone else to abide by rules of war and treatment of civilians, when they turn a blind eye to what Israel does. Remember the uproar when Russia attacked Georgia?
I think God is on the Palestinians side what do you think? Afterall, Israel hasn't been able to destroy them, or win against them, so they are obviously under God's protection
. (using the same faulty logic that people use to explain Israels prevalance in past wars).
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Actually, that has nothing to do with it.
Hah! I like you, 'Snail. Even when we disagree, you can still make me chuckle
I think God is on the Palestinians side what do you think? Afterall, Israel hasn't been able to destroy them, or win against them, so they are obviously under God's protection . (using the same faulty logic that people use to explain Israels prevalance in past wars).
. (using the same faulty logic that people use to explain Israels prevalance in past wars).
That militants hide amongst civilian populations is the excuse whenever a civilian home is destroyed. But they never have any solid intel or proof that there are militants hiding in there. In fact in the lebanon conflict there were no militants near quite a few of the civilian targets, but Israel targeted them anyway such as schools, hospitals etc because they were called "militant supporting infrastructure" . In any case, reason dictates that you do not fire upon a civilian home if there are innocents in there. That is the difference between a civilised modern army and murderers. That Israelis deliberately targeted civilian targets is solid fact, as recorded by quite a number of humanitarian organisations who were on the ground when the conflitc happened.
. In any case, reason dictates that you do not fire upon a civilian home if there are innocents in there. That is the difference between a civilised modern army and murderers. That Israelis deliberately targeted civilian targets is solid fact, as recorded by quite a number of humanitarian organisations who were on the ground when the conflitc happened.
I think your treating war like it's a lovely little affair where soldiers drink tea, carefully plan their strategies and discuss philosophy in their downtime, unfortunately it isn't, we can try to avoid civilian casualties but they can't be totally avoided, and often civilian building do support a war... if indirectly.
Also... what about the rockets that hezbolah was firing into Israel? They certainly aren't targetting military facilities.
That's why I despise things like the Geneva Convention. War isn't fluffy, you can't make rules for it.
I mean, look at what all the rules have done! By not following these rules, Israel's wars are fast. They go in, do the job, get out. How about America's? It's been, what, eight or nine years now and we're still fighting the same two wars.
I mean, look at what all the rules have done! By not following these rules, Israel's wars are fast. They go in, do the job, get out. How about America's? It's been, what, eight or nine years now and we're still fighting the same two wars.
Stuey if you read up about the lebanon conflict that occurred a few years ago, and Israel shelled it to pieces, you will see that Israel was not just firing at targets firing back at them. They targeted schools, hospitals, civilian facilities that were thought to contain links to the militants. I recall they even targeted a predominantly Christian village.
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http://www.btselem.org/english/statistics/casualties_data.asp?Category=23®ion=TER
2008
593 Palestinians killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
2008
593 Palestinians killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
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hide among civilian targets??? where in Heaven's name can they go? the Gazans are trapped inside razar wire cages. just like shooting fish in a barrel.
civilian causualties CAME FROM THE AIR! IN THE FORM OF WHITE PHOSPHOROUS SUPPLIED BY THE US.
TOTALLY ILLEGAL, BARBARIC AND GENOCIDAL.
CHILDREN/WOMEN BURNED ALIVE, LIMBS CUT OFF AS WITH A WELDING TORCH.
the greatest IRONY of all is that the very word HOLOCAUST means:
holocaust [ˈhɒləˌkɔːst]
n 1. great destruction or loss of life or the source of such destruction, esp fire
if you want to know how those who live there feel about the Gazans, and murder by white phosphorous,
watch this video. it's a SPORTING EVENT! fish in a barrel.
Zionist "tourists" watch bombs drop on Gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u-y13LCqSA
REVOLTING AND HYPOCRITICAL.
Look, people, the simple fact of the matter is that not a single one of you actually knows what's going on over there. You don't experience what goes on over there, you obviously don't know the history of what's been going on over there. You're all just sitting in your lovely little countries where everything is just peachy, and if the media says something is going on, you believe every rutting word they say.
I'm sorry, but the media LIES. They don't tell the truth, and they certainly haven't told the truth on this matter either.
I'm sorry, but the media LIES. They don't tell the truth, and they certainly haven't told the truth on this matter either.
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What do you mean "The Jews are non-Israelite" ? I understand you can convert to Judaism and become a "Jew", but if you are born from a Jewish mother even if she converted you are being born into the Covenant. If you are Jewish you can then go to Ysrael under the law of return. That would make you an "Israeli" by your definition, yes?