School RANT

[Levichevett]

So essentially my best mate has been bullied that bad at school that he dropped out this week and hes going to get homeschooled. That itself is pretty bad and hes basically the entire reason I go to most of my classes and I aint even gonna be able to see him anymore because his parents cant be there to homeschool him so hes moving to his grandparents somewhere in Scotland and its probabaly selfish but I dont want him to move away. And the news of whats happened has spread around school and in science we were doing some things with paint and this boy was bragging to his mates that hes pathetic for leaving and hes so scared of him and all this other crap so I overreacted and threw a pot of paint at him and it didnt miss. So now Ive been suspended for a week. Wth sort of system is this where a guy can bully someone to the point of leaving school for 3 years but I lose my temper once and suddenly there is a punishment for bad people. Like obviosuly I deserve to be punished I shouldnt have done what i did but they get nothing and I cant be the only one who thinks thats wrong. I honestly would have done so much to them before now but my mates always told me not to and I respect him and I listen to him and we went to teachers so much and they never did anything to stop it they just kept saying theyd look into it. Why cant people just be nice to each other and not bully other people like why is that so hard for people to do? You know what Im glad Ive been suspended cos at least I dont have to see them for the next 2 weeks.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Levi, you seriously have a bad attitude on all this. Those bullies will get what's coming to them. I can understand your sadness and frustration, but honestly, throwing a paint jar at someone is something a spoiled two year old would do. :/ You're not in kindergarten, so grow up and act more responsibly. If the school officials don't do anything about the bullying, then that will just reflect badly on them. Just remember, it's NOT your place to get revenge on these kids, GOD will handle that one.

 

[Willie-T]

You're obviously most likely going to get in a fist fight about this. Just make sure you have two or three people videoing it for you, clearly and smoothly. Do not react until AFTER no less than three punches have been thrown by the other guy. This part is important.

Then, if you are skilled enough, go ahead and do what you feel is necessary.

 

[Rudimental]

You're obviously most likely going to get in a fist fight about this. Just make sure you have two or three people videoing it for you, clearly and smoothly. Do not react until AFTER no less than three punches have been thrown by the other guy. This part is important.

Then, if you are skilled enough, go ahead and do what you feel is necessary.

Are you for real Will? Is that really the best advice you can give a teenager in this situation? As a Christian?

What about what Christ taught to turn the other cheek?? Matthew 5:39 Luke 6:29

Where does it say, thou shall wait for thine enemy to smite thee thrice before thou shall smite them back?

What would make him more of a man or more like Christ - Going Jean Claude Van Damme on him after taking 3 punches to the face, or turning the other cheek each time?

Why give this advice? Whats to say that there wont be more punches after the 4th? He could follow that advice and get absolutely hammered! Some people can't even hack one punch to the face but he has to wait for him to punch him 3 times before punching back? And make sure its recorded so people can share it on social media and bring even more trouble?

Come on man. When do 3 wrongs make another wrong right?

I think your method is the cowards method and is just as childish as the bullies is.

There needs to be no fist fights or punch ups. There will be no fist fights or punch ups.

OP I do appreciate and feel your vent but what you done by throwing the paint could be seen as being childish. It is good that you have come on here about it and shows that God is definitely working in you. We all still make and do silly things from time to time when frustration, anger and confusion abound, especially when in school!

But if you are really a Christian, then you must learn more to live like a Christian and life like Christ and ALWAYS put Him first in ALL that you do. If you would have done that on that day, things would have turned out differently for you. As Blue ladybird has so eloquently put it for you, it is not your place to dish out punishment for people with acts of revenge. It is God who will avenge us and He will do so in a much much better way than we could ever think of. Just leave it to Him.

We should not make such judgements as it is written, Matthew 7:1-3 KJV Judge not, that ye be not judged.2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You're obviously most likely going to get in a fist fight about this. Just make sure you have two or three people videoing it for you, clearly and smoothly. Do not react until AFTER no less than three punches have been thrown by the other guy. This part is important.

Then, if you are skilled enough, go ahead and do what you feel is necessary.

This is horrible advice.. Don't listen to him, Levi. The last thing you need is to get into a fist fight, let alone tape it so that it looks pre-meditated.. That's what proud bullies do, they video tape their antics to get a good laugh later on. You're not a bully, so don't go that route..

 

[Willie-T]

This is horrible advice.. Don't listen to him, Levi. The last thing you need is to get into a fist fight, let alone tape it so that it looks pre-meditated.. That's what proud bullies do, they video tape their antics to get a good laugh later on. You're not a bully, so don't go that route..

So, since a fight certainly IS coming......... what do you suggest he do? Remember, he is already "marked" by the administration, and will probably be expelled if he cannot show proof that he didn't just start something else again.

No, Levi, be ready this next time. And use your head. You will prove nothing by taking a beating and then getting expelled on top of it.

To you "shocked" people.... This is not carrying a gun and shooting someone. It is a simple schoolyard fist fight........ and he needs to be ready.

 

[Blain]

So essentially my best mate has been bullied that bad at school that he dropped out this week and hes going to get homeschooled. That itself is pretty bad and hes basically the entire reason I go to most of my classes and I aint even gonna be able to see him anymore because his parents cant be there to homeschool him so hes moving to his grandparents somewhere in Scotland and its probabaly selfish but I dont want him to move away. And the news of whats happened has spread around school and in science we were doing some things with paint and this boy was bragging to his mates that hes pathetic for leaving and hes so scared of him and all this other crap so I overreacted and threw a pot of paint at him and it didnt miss. So now Ive been suspended for a week. Wth sort of system is this where a guy can bully someone to the point of leaving school for 3 years but I lose my temper once and suddenly there is a punishment for bad people. Like obviosuly I deserve to be punished I shouldnt have done what i did but they get nothing and I cant be the only one who thinks thats wrong. I honestly would have done so much to them before now but my mates always told me not to and I respect him and I listen to him and we went to teachers so much and they never did anything to stop it they just kept saying theyd look into it. Why cant people just be nice to each other and not bully other people like why is that so hard for people to do? You know what Im glad Ive been suspended cos at least I dont have to see them for the next 2 weeks.

Jesus was bullied quite often ppl even tried to stone him because he spoke God's truth, bullies are a reality and I have dealt with them in my life. I was always that kid that bullies could just smell weakness and they preyed on that and bullied me even as I had cancer they made fun of my bald head and they made of how small and young looking I was due to the chemo. It was uncommon to be bullied for being different or simply because these guys were big and more matured than others.

Sometimes these kinds of bullies are bred from their parents, some parents are just like them except much older possibly they were bullies as kids too but other times these ppl act like they do and bully others because inside they are hurting and sometimes they are glory hounds to make themselves feel like they have some kind of value. These ppl can only be defeated by showering them with kindness and love, violence and anger only produced more violence and anger, kindness and love can stop world war three

 

[Blain]

So, since a fight certainly IS coming......... what do you suggest he do? Remember, he is already "marked" by the administration, and will probably be expelled if he cannot show proof that he didn't just start something else again.

No, Levi, be ready this next time. And use your head. You will prove nothing by taking a beating and then getting expelled on top of it.

To you "shocked" people.... This is not carrying a gun and shooting someone. It is a simple schoolyard fist fight........ and he needs to be ready.

Willie you need to stop, did you see Jesus fight back when he was being brutally beaten? If we really are Christians like we claim to be then we have to do things the opposite of how the world does

 

[Willie-T]

Are you for real Will? Is that really the best advice you can give a teenager in this situation? As a Christian?

What about what Christ taught to turn the other cheek?? Matthew 5:39 Luke 6:29

Where does it say, thou shall wait for thine enemy to smite thee thrice before thou shall smite them back?

What would make him more of a man or more like Christ - Going Jean Claude Van Damme on him after taking 3 punches to the face, or turning the other cheek each time?

Why give this advice? Whats to say that there wont be more punches after the 4th? He could follow that advice and get absolutely hammered! Some people can't even hack one punch to the face but he has to wait for him to punch him 3 times before punching back? And make sure its recorded so people can share it on social media and bring even more trouble?

Come on man. When do 3 wrongs make another wrong right?

I think your method is the cowards method and is just as childish as the bullies is.

There needs to be no fist fights or punch ups. There will be no fist fights or punch ups.

OP I do appreciate and feel your vent but what you done by throwing the paint could be seen as being childish. It is good that you have come on here about it and shows that God is definitely working in you. We all still make and do silly things from time to time when frustration, anger and confusion abound, especially when in school!

But if you are really a Christian, then you must learn more to live like a Christian and life like Christ and ALWAYS put Him first in ALL that you do. If you would have done that on that day, things would have turned out differently for you. As Blue ladybird has so eloquently put it for you, it is not your place to dish out punishment for people with acts of revenge. It is God who will avenge us and He will do so in a much much better way than we could ever think of. Just leave it to Him.

We should not make such judgements as it is written, Matthew 7:1-3 KJV Judge not, that ye be not judged.2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Did you grow up in a Girl's School? He can be sure it's coming. The wise thing is to be ready.... AND make sure he isn't the one blamed for starting it.

 

[Blain]

Did you grow up in a Girl's School? He can be sure it's coming. The wise thing is to be ready.... AND make sure he isn't the one blamed for starting it.

The wise thing? there are two ppl who promote two different things, God promotes love kindness peace and patience, satan promotes anger violence and war so who do you think you are speaking for right now?

 

[Willie-T]

OK, Levi. You have heard two ways of handling this. You make your choice. Your friend did.

Remember, our nation stands strong and we get to make statements like these, only because we have not backed down.

 

[blue_ladybug]

So, since a fight certainly IS coming......... what do you suggest he do? Remember, he is already "marked" by the administration, and will probably be expelled if he cannot show proof that he didn't just start something else again.

No, Levi, be ready this next time. And use your head. You will prove nothing by taking a beating and then getting expelled on top of it.

To you "shocked" people.... This is not carrying a gun and shooting someone. It is a simple schoolyard fist fight........ and he needs to be ready.

First you tell him to get into a fist fight. Then you contradict yourself by saying "you will prove nothing by taking a beating and getting expelled on top of it." And how do you know whether one of those kids has a gun or knife or other weapon to pull on Levi? And also, these bullies weren't bullying Levi, it was his FRIEND they were bullying. I agree that Levi maybe should be on guard, but getting into a fist fight will only get him permanently expelled from school. Are you prepared to explain to his parents that it was because YOU told him to get into a fight?

Levi, just avoid those kids. Don't talk to them, don't look at them, just completely ignore them. Bullies thrive on attention. Nothing makes them madder, then when they don't get what they seek, and they'll eventually find a new target, unfortunately.

 

[Willie-T]

First you tell him to get into a fist fight. Then you contradict yourself by saying "you will prove nothing by taking a beating and getting expelled on top of it." And how do you know whether one of those kids has a gun or knife or other weapon to pull on Levi? And also, these bullies weren't bullying Levi, it was his FRIEND they were bullying. I agree that Levi maybe should be on guard, but getting into a fist fight will only get him permanently expelled from school. Are you prepared to explain to his parents that it was because YOU told him to get into a fight?

Levi, just avoid those kids. Don't talk to them, don't look at them, just completely ignore them. Bullies thrive on attention. Nothing makes them madder, then when they don't get what they seek, and they'll eventually find a new target, unfortunately.

I'm contradicting nothing. Every boy should know how to defend himself.

Jesus is a hero because He KNEW He could swat those people like flies, but chose not to.

It is just a coward who claims to stand on Christian principles about not fighting when he already knows he is simply afraid to fight.

 

[Rudimental]

Did you grow up in a Girl's School? He can be sure it's coming. The wise thing is to be ready.... AND make sure he isn't the one blamed for starting it.

No I didn't grow up in any school. I grew up in a house. I went to a unisex school.

Nothing you have said in this thread is wise.

 

[Blain]

I'm contradicting nothing. Every boy should know how to defend himself.

Jesus is a hero because He KNEW He could swat those people like flies, but chose not to.

It is just a coward who claims to stand on Christian principles about not fighting when he already knows he is simply afraid to fight.

Is that so? because I think it takes the greatest courage to not fight and trust God, never assume you know a persons heart willie

 

[jsr1221]

I'm contradicting nothing. Every boy should know how to defend himself.

Jesus is a hero because He KNEW He could swat those people like flies, but chose not to.

It is just a coward who claims to stand on Christian principles about not fighting when he already knows he is simply afraid to fight.

Why does Jesus tell us to turn the other cheek, then?

 

[Willie-T]

Why does Jesus tell us to turn the other cheek, then?

Certainly NOT because we are too fearful to fight. If Levi KNOWS he can put these guys down when they come looking for him (and they WILL), and he chooses not to fight, then that is cool, and his choice. But from what he has said, I don't think that is his intention. I am just trying to help him make sure that he does not get expelled when the inevitable comes.

 

[jsr1221]

Certainly NOT because we are too fearful to fight. If Levi KNOWS he can put these guys down when they come looking for him (and they WILL), and he chooses not to fight, then that is cool, and his choice. But from what he has said, I don't think that is his intention. I am just trying to help him make sure that he does not get expelled when the inevitable comes.

So appropriate authority figures are meaningless, then? I recall seeing you say you changed your stance on carrying a concealed loaded weapon... So you'd be against that if people were coming after you with a gun. Yet looking for a fight is totally okay, and even better when you record it... Right. Okay.

 

[Levichevett]

If they come over to me and start something then obviously I'm gonna fight back but I hope I can avoid it cos it's probably not the smartest thing to get myself into and ik he's a good fighter I mean I'm good but idk if I'm that good and I'd just rather not

 

[kodiak]

I was bullied back in school....if they just say something, try to ignore.....IF you need to defend yourself than do so, and before people jump on me for saying this, read the article at GotQuestions titled "What does the Bible say about self-defense?"
I had one kid attempt to stab me at one point, I blocked. I never fought back, but knew karate and could have. It just takes wisdom.