He became sin...???

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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
You are being so unChristian. You're nature is getting the best of you....Chill.
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I don't think folks who claim Christ had sin..decide who is acting like a "Christian" false teachers and deceivers are not supposed to be treated as fellow Christians.
 
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Mitspa said:
Flesh is flesh...Spirit is spirit...do you not understand that?
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Right, but the Spirit has assumed your flesh because He resides in you. Does that make the Spirit, sinful? No! Why? It's not His flesh, it's yours.

In the same way Christ as God was united to OUR corporate humanity. It wasn't His by divine right. Hence He was made "in the likeness of sinful flesh"
 
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Roberth said:
Deception is not temptation.
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That's so silly ...lol of course temptation is based on deception. Its called a lie ... why was the serpent there? If not to tempt them through deception?
 
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Mitspa said:
That's so silly ...lol of course temptation is based on deception. Its called a lie ... why was the serpent there? If not to tempt them through deception?
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How many old folks are deceived by someone trying to take their money? How are the old folks being tempted? They aren't, they are being lied to and they don't know it. That's deception.
 
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Roberth said:
Right, but the Spirit has assumed your flesh because He resides in you. Does that make the Spirit, sinful? No! Why? It's not His flesh, it's yours.

In the same way Christ as God was united to OUR corporate humanity. It wasn't His by divine right. Hence He was made "in the likeness of sinful flesh"
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Again your just making up nonsense ...The Spirit makes me His temple based on the Blood of Jesus...not because the Spirit joins Himself with the sin in my flesh.
 
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Roberth said:
How many old folks are deceived by someone trying to take their money? How are the old folks being tempted? They aren't, they are being lied to and they don't know it. That's deception.
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Eve's misstep was she went near the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Apparently Adam too. Why? It doesn't' say, but it caused the fall of mankind.
 
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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
How many old folks are deceived by someone trying to take their money? How are the old folks being tempted? They aren't, they are being lied to and they don't know it. That's deception.
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Where not taling about old people being deceived with money...We are talking about how the Devil "tempted" Adam and Eve through deception ...
 
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Mitspa said:
Again your just making up nonsense ...The Spirit makes me His temple based on the Blood of Jesus...not because the Spirit joins Himself with the sin in my flesh.
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You still have sin in the flesh, right?

The Spirit lives in you.

So you have God in you (God is Spirit) and you still retain your sinful nature. The two are in one body. Does that make the Holy Spirit sinful?
 
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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
Eve's misstep was she went near the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Apparently Adam too. Why? It doesn't' say, but it caused the fall of mankind.
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So the serpent tempting her with lies? that had nothing to do with her being tempted?
 
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Mitspa said:
.We are talking about how the Devil "tempted" Adam and Eve through deception ...
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Your quote "tempted" in not in the text in Genesis. You are adding. The devil deceived at least Eve.
 
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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
You still have sin in the flesh, right?

The Spirit lives in you.

So you have God in you (God is Spirit) and you still retain your sinful nature. The two are in one body. Does that make the Holy Spirit sinful?
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No ...sin in the flesh..is sin in the Flesh...not in the spirit.... In the spirit, im am joined with the Holy Spirit...have you even read the bible?

Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
 
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Mitspa said:
Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
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Your spirit is apart of you. The Holy Spirit dwells in your spirit. Your spirit is not a disembodied thing, its a location in your inner man (your mind) where He dwells. But He still dwells in the same body that has sinful flesh.
 
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Roberth said:
Your quote "tempted" in not in the text in Genesis. You are adding. The devil deceived at least Eve.
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So what? Just because the word is not used...don't mean its not evident...a child can figure that out....

If the devil lies to you to get you to disobey God..he is tempting you to disobey ...what part of that is so hard for you to admit?
 
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Mitspa said:
So what? Just because the word is not used...don't mean its not evident...a child can figure that out....

If the devil lies to you to get you to disobey God..he is tempting you to disobey ...what part of that is so hard for you to admit?
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How can you tempt a sinless being (say Eve), in the image and likeness of Go and indwelt only with the divine nature, to sin?
 
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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
Again, your words. I can't find anything that states Eve was tempted.
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So? Its clear and evident as day...you don't want to admit it because it destroys the basis of your false doctrine that Christ had sin in the flesh...
 
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Roberth said:


How can you tempt a sinless being (say Eve), in the image and likeness of Go and indwelt only with the divine nature, to sin?
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read the bible...with lies...just like the devil did to Adam and eve
 
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Mitspa said:
.... it destroys the basis of your false doctrine that Christ had sin in the flesh...
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You need to re-read what I'm stating because you are misrepresenting me. That's called sin. You are lying about what I am saying or you are confused.
 
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Mitspa

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Roberth said:
You need to re-read what I'm stating because you are misrepresenting me. That's called sin. You are lying about what I am saying or you are confused.
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So... now your saying Christ did not have sin in the flesh?
 
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