Biblical Errors - Why Haven't They Been Fixed?

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1Mind1Spirit

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oldhermit said:
Why would you accept as truth a work that is so contradictory of the rest of the gospels even to the point of denying that Jesus was the Messiah. You are believing a lie my friend.
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  • John 10:27 KJV


    27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
 
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First, I think you have this backwards. The NT authors shed more light on the OT prophecies, not the other way around. The OT authors don't quote the NT. Once you understand how the NT authors interpreted the OT prophecies and such, then we can go back and read the OT with greater understanding. That said, I also believe once we receive greater understanding of the OT, it has a reverse effect in understanding the unclear passages in the NT. Second, in replying to your main thought, the Newer Versions have fix some problems such as grammar and spelling, but there are some things we can not fix because it is unclear how to fix them since some differences occur in ancient manuscripts due to copyists errors.
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No, actually I don't think I do have it wrong. I wasn't referring to the OT prophecies (if I were you do make a good point). You do need to understand that the Law is good but it brings death and that Grace, through faith alone by way of Jesus' suffering, death and resurrection, is the only way to be saved. Yes, having a greater understanding of the OT helps in the reading of the NT and vice-versa. But something like Genesis is foundational to the rest of the Gospel. Scripture interprets scripture. Thanks for the rest of your post.
 
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Tintin

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Bookends said:
LOL,, this guy is such a joke and embarrassment to the Christian faith.
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And yet, sometimes he says good things. I haven't watched the video yet. He's entertaining, but he doesn't have the credibility of biblical creation scientists like those belonging to CMI, AiG and ICR.
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
My quote was from the epistle of Barnabas.
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Do you not realize that work stands in complete contradiction to what we are told about Jesus in the NT gospels. How can you possible read the NT and then read the gospel of Barnabas and not see it for what it is. The gospel of Barnabas is a blasphemous piece of garbage.
 
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1Mind1Spirit

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oldhermit said:
Do you not realize that work stands in complete contradiction to what we are told about Jesus in the NT gospels. How can you possible read the NT and then read the gospel of Barnabas and not see it for what it is. The gospel of Barnabas is a blasphemous piece of garbage.
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This is rich. lol.

You might actually try learning to read.
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
This is rich. lol.

You might actually try learning to read.
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I've read the first 35 chapters until I simply could not stomach any more of it. If you can't see through the nonsense of that work you could not see through a ladder.
 
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1Mind1Spirit

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oldhermit said:
Well, the online version I was reading was broken down into smaller segments that made it much more than 35 chapter.
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Since you wont slow down and actually read what I have written to you, you force me to rein you in.

I'm quoting the Epistle of Barnabas, not the gospel of Barnabas.

So you see it is highly unlikely that you read some condensed version of it.

This is a knee jerk reaction by you because you have asserted I was wrong and cant prove it.

Yer so busy assuming I was wrong that you don't even have the ability to carry on a comprehensive conversation.

This shore strengthens Tintin's assertion of yer fruit, NOT.

Do you now get it?

The gospel of Barnabas is not the same thing as the Epistle of Barnabas.
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
Since you wont slow down and actually read what I have written to you, you force me to rein you in.

I'm quoting the Epistle of Barnabas, not the gospel of Barnabas.

So you see it is highly unlikely that you read some condensed version of it.

This is a knee jerk reaction by you because you have asserted I was wrong and cant prove it.

Yer so busy assuming I was wrong that you don't even have the ability to carry on a comprehensive conversation.

This shore strengthens Tintin's assertion of yer fruit, NOT.

Do you now get it?

The gospel of Barnabas is not the same thing as the Epistle of Barnabas.
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Do you piss on everyone's parade?
 
oldhermit

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1Mind1Spirit said:
Since you wont slow down and actually read what I have written to you, you force me to rein you in.

I'm quoting the Epistle of Barnabas, not the gospel of Barnabas.

So you see it is highly unlikely that you read some condensed version of it.

This is a knee jerk reaction by you because you have asserted I was wrong and cant prove it.

Yer so busy assuming I was wrong that you don't even have the ability to carry on a comprehensive conversation.

This shore strengthens Tintin's assertion of yer fruit, NOT.

Do you now get it?

The gospel of Barnabas is not the same thing as the Epistle of Barnabas.
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Like the gospel of Barnabas it too is a pseudo-document and part of a collection of fake documents from the first or second century and rejected as a canonized work. I have to go to bed now. I will address this further tomorrow.
 
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1Mind1Spirit

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oldhermit said:
Like the gospel of Barnabas it too is a pseudo-document and part of a collection of fake documents from the first or second century and rejected as a canonized work. I have to go to bed now. I will address this further tomorrow.
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Too bad you've lost all credibility.

I'm already sure that any address you give will be based on yer assumptions that the catholic councils were inspired by God.
 
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1Mind1Spirit said:
Too bad you've lost all credibility.

I'm already sure that any address you give will be based on yer assumptions that the catholic councils were inspired by God.
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Well, I should have been paying closer attention. You kept saying epistle but I was only thinking gospel. I am sorry for the miscommunication on my part. It has been a long time since I have looked at the epistle of Barnabas. In fact I do not think I have bothered with it since I was in collage and studying NT documents. The first thing I would question about the epistle of B. is when it was written in relation to the martyrdom of Barnabas. Although there is no way we can know for sure the year of Barnabas' death it is suggested to have been around AD 61. The earliest possible date ascribed to the gospel of B is AD 70. If either of these dates are even close there is no way this work can be attributed to the Barnabas of Acts. The book could not have been written before AD 70 and it is possible it was written much later, perhaps as late as around the middle of the second century.
 
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The errors I point to are there on purpose. See: The a Great Ekklesiastical Conspiracy. Men want control and pride and mammon.
These verses will not be translated correctly. The scriptures that do counter these 3 sins are down played and never mentioned. Yes...there is evil in the world.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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there is a possibility that the epistle of barnabas was written by the biblical barnabas...the consensus in the ancient christian church is that he was the author...in spite of that fact most ancient christians never recognized it as inspired scripture...

however nowdays most scholars including conservative christian scholars are convinced that it was not written by the biblical barnabas...the modern consensus is that it was either written 'in his name' by an admirer...in which case the theology of the epistle may actually closely resemble the teaching of the biblical barnabas...or else that it was written by another early christian named barnabas who is not mentioned in scripture...

the 'gospel of barnabas' on the other hand is unanimously regarded as a fraud by both christian and secular scholars...really only certain muslim apologists regard the book as anything even remotely resembling an accurate account of the life of jesus...
 
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