Am I really saved even though I willingly sinned?

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"Ask your self again if you were trully worthy"

No one is worthy, that is why we need Christ in the first place. Where in the bible do you find we must be worthy? If it's there, I want to know.
 
LexKnight said:
Luke Chapter 1

5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea,
a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia:
and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron,
and her name was Elisabeth.

6 And they were both righteous before God,
walking in all the commandments and ordinances
of the Lord blameless.
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This is a good place to point out what it means to be blameless and upright before God. To be upright and blameless before God does not mean that this couple never sinned, or never did any wrong. It means that they made the proper sacrifices according to their covenant to take care of any sin in their life.

It is the same with a Christian of today. We are not blames and righteous before God because we never sin or do anything wrong. We are blames because of the sacrifice of Jesus and our faith in that sacrifice.
 
thanks for getting this thread back on track gunner, I had learned so much from it last night. Had me digging in the Word which is always, so good for me:) denise
 
:smoke: And who ever is asking and you answered them back
from which (what) is written in the scriptures
and
if you will ask those who were asking you boastfully
but cannot answered back because of not knowing the scriptures those people can be sometimes
Acts as pharisses only to those people who
dont have any knowledged unto the sciptures . ...

:whistle: THOSE PEOPLE DOESNT MIND YOUR SALVATION BUT
ONLY THEMSELVES TO BOAST UNTO YOU
NOTHING TO TEACH ANYTHING FROM
THE SCRIPTURES
AND THE WORST IS TO USED GOD FOR THEIR OWN INTEREST
AS TO HAVE A DOMINION OVER YOU
BUT NEITHER OF THEM COULD UNDERSTAND
THE TRUH IN WHICH (WHAT) IS WRITTEN . ... TSK TSK
:read:
Matthew: 23. 15. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

:rofl: for the eyes of the lord god is beholding what is good and what is evil . ...

God bless us all always

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crossnote said:
True it shows no regard for the precious gift through the shed blood of Jesus Christ. That was the precise sin Heb 10:26 is speaking of...the sin of spurning His blood and going back to the Mosaic system of animal sacrifice due to pressure of persecution.
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Yes sir.

The context can be seen in the last verse of Hebrews 10.


39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. Hebrews 10:39

This is the turning away from Him, under the influence of persecution.


Believing... to the saving of the soul.

It is the continuing to believe [obey] to results in the saving of the soul.


Jesus taught this principle in the parable of the Sower.


12 Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

believe = saved

13 But the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, who believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away.


Believe for a while = saved for a while


Fall away is the same Greek word used in Hebrews 3 -

12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; Hebrews 3:12


It is a conscience decision to "turn away" from The living God to defect to another religion.

It is the epitome of unbelief.


Unbelief is disobedience, same Greek word.



JPT



 
BigGuy said:
I sinned willingly after saved and I heard a message about the false grace movement. Am I really saved?
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Gal 3:22But the Scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

1 John 1:8-10If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1John 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Our Lord Jesus Christ says:
Matt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 
BigGuy said:
I sinned willingly after saved and I heard a message about the false grace movement. Am I really saved?
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The fact that you are concerned gives evidence that either you were saved, or are in the process of being saved through the Ministry of the Comforter currently.

The natural mind does not show concern for whether one is saved or not, but is convinced that they are okay with God. The one under conviction yields to the conviction the Holy Spirit supplies through enlightenment of sin, righteousness, and judgment.

Secondly, salvation is not a matter of being saved and immediately one is sinless. While we learn not to sin as we grow, we are still reliant on God to show us sin in our lives. We can't deal with sin in our life if we do not first know what is sin. How many who are saved immediately know that hatred without cause is as serious as literally murdering someone? So we are going to sin, and sometimes it is deliberate. We know we are doing something that God views as sin, but do it anyway.

But consider that this is typical...of children. And that is how we all start out, BigGuy, kids in need of instruction, and we understand that God would not impose a command that we are to train up our children in the way they should go, and not do so Himself.

That is why He is the Heavenly Father, and we are His children.


God bless.
 
LexKnight said:
I do not willfully and knowingly commit sin.
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Is your name Jesus? Was you born of a virgin? Are you God incarnate?

If not. Satan is your father, and you are full of lies.. (and have bought into every one of those lies.)
 
LexKnight said:
man of God says...

When you lose...lose with honor.

God will honor it.
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we lost along time ago. Christ won the victory. And he still is, Even though we continue to fail.

Something your to proud to realise.. Keep your arrogant attitude (which is sin by the way, and your willingly commiting that sin so your also a liar) You will not win any friends here.
 
knownbyGod said:
"Ask your self again if you were trully worthy"

No one is worthy, that is why we need Christ in the first place. Where in the bible do you find we must be worthy? If it's there, I want to know.
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the very fact he claimed to be worthy was the first sign he was a false prophet..
 
He's a troll. He's been here dozens of times before, under dozens of user names. He gets his kicks out of being banned..lol
 
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