This thread is in response to a request to show or prove via scripture, that name it claim it is not a heresy, as it has been said by so many professing Christians, but a truth of God's word. What one does with this truth, has no bearing on what is written in the word of God, nor does it negate the doctrine from being a truth of God. Money, power, and things of this world are not the root of all evil, but the love of them is the root of evil. Guns are not evil, but how you use them, and on whom or what, and for what purpose could be evil. Do we say cars are evil because they are the cause of many people's injuries and deaths? If a car is not evil or of the devil when so many people behind the wheel of an automobile are neglectful of their condition while driving, then neither should a doctrine be of the devil just because so many people abuse it. Nor should it be shunned because of a dislike toward a person or denomination. It's not the doctrine that's evil, like it's not the car, it's the person who turned the law of God into a curse. This law can be used for either good or evil, depending on the condition of the heart of the person. Whether any of you know it or not, most of you use it in your own lives for evil or to your own detriment. You use NICI unwittingly to your own hurt. You curse your own lives and that of your family's without realizing it. You believe more what you see and feel than what the word of God says. Read the second kind of person in the sower sowing seed parable.
Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
Mar 4:17 And [the seed] hav[ing] no root in themselves [their heart], and so endure but for a time [which for a while, believe]: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended, [and fall away from the truth, or the plant dries up and dies].
Sadly, much of the persecution comes from other so called Christians, in the form of belittling remarks, demon chasers, law oriented know-it-alls, teachers, preachers, and the like.
Because Christians, being carnally minded, look at the situation and keep that before their eyes, instead of the word of God, like Peter did when he was walking on the water and started to sink when he doubted, they too will fall away or turned from the truth and sink, as they chose to believe the situation, which is a lie, over God and His word.
The third kind of person in the sower sowing seed, whose seed got choked by the weeds because of the condition of their heart, are the same kind who have taken and used the word of God for their own gain and turned a truth or law of God into a curse, lusting for the things they used the word of God to get.
Mar 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Luk 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
They are the kind of people whose heart has turned from the word and from God Himself, to the things of this world, and have abused the truth of the gospel of God's word.
If I pray for a person's healing and/or deliverance, and bind the spirit that is the source of the condition from operating in that person's life, then command the foul thing to leave, then thank God for performing His word in the life of the person I prayed for, before seeing any sign of change, saying, "thank you Father for healing or delivering this person by your word in the name of Jesus." Have I sinned or done anything wrong before God when I named and claimed what I want to happen concerning the healing or deliverance of the person I prayed for? When I cast out an evil spirit, I am in essence, commanding the hand of God to move on my behalf for the person I prayed for through naming what I want done, then claiming it as done, then seeing it manifest in the natural.
Have you ever asked the question of how the devil got to be the god of this world and whose power he took and is using? If God gave Adam the power to rule over everything in this world, and made him the god of this world, and the devil took that power from Adam when he sinned against God, then he is using God's power and moving the hand of God against everyone that opposes him. If God upholds all natural and spiritual laws by the word of His power, then the devil has to be moving the hand of God in order for him to have any effect in the natural world, for all power comes from and is performed by the Spirit of God, who watches over ever law that God Himself put in place. So if the devil is using spiritual laws put in place by God for evil, then we, as God's children can use the higher laws established through the covenant of Christ's work on the cross for good or evil.
Isa 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
The bible translations that put this verse as a question, as though saying, 'you dare question me concerning the works of my hands?', I believe are incorrect. You commanded the hand of God to move on your behalf when you asked for Jesus to be lord of you life, then claimed your salvation with thanksgiving for doing it before hearing anything from God Himself. You didn't ask Him if it was His will, you just assumed it was, based on what you read or were told by others, and that He would do what He said in His word, then when you thanked Him for doing it, you moved the hand of God to make you His Child. For it was only after you thanked Him that you were born again. For you had to believe it was already done before it was done.
Again, I commanded the work of God's finger to cast out a spirit in the name of Jesus, by naming what I want done to that spirit, then claiming it as done in faith with thanksgiving. Trusting God to perform His word of faith for me. And God does it. It's the same thing Jesus did every time He bound and cast out a spirit.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;...
If this sign and the others which I omitted, are not following you, then either you are doing nothing, or you do not truly believe, for you shall know them by the fruit they produce. The fruit isn't just to determine whether a person is of God or not, but it also is to show whether they believe a particular thing or not. But if the signs follow me and others who do believe, then how is it of the devil? If this happens on a consistent basis, then how can it be a doctrine of devils. It is written, that God will not hear a sinner. If that be true, then why do others and myself get results? Again it is written, that God IS truth and in Him is NO lie, and that He watches over and hastens to perform HIS word. Are you saying that God Himself is performing the word or lie of the devil? Are you saying the spirit in myself and others who have bound and cast out devils, is of the devil and not of God? That is what the Scribes and Pharisees said of Jesus, but He said to them that what they had said was the unpardonable sin! Are you saying that the doctrine is a lie of the devil? Jesus said, "how can Satan cast out Satan?", every kingdom divided against itself cannot stand but has an end. If Satan be divided against Himself, how can his kingdom stand? Are you so blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid, as the Scribes and Pharisees, whom Jesus rebuked? The bible says, if anyone preach any other gospel, let him be accursed. I am telling you that this is part of the true gospel of Jesus Christ. If it be another gospel, then I am accursed for preaching another gospel. But if I am correct, then it is you who is, most assuredly, the accursed ones.
It was then said, that you who appose the doctrine, would check the original language for accuracy in the interpretations. That would be a 180 degree change from what everyone has been doing up to the present. No one has checked scripture with a pure heart, to find out if what I have been saying is a truth of God's word or not. Which shouts resoundingly, that all of you who have argued against WOF, NICI, OR BIGI, have done so in complete ignorance. Spouting off what you know nothing about. It shows that you have been blind fools, condemning both those who believe the doctrine and the doctrine itself. It is like a judge calling someone guilty before even hearing the case or ignoring all the evidence. That's why I don't even listen to most of you. You have judged and condemned something you can't even prove to be worthy of being judged and condemned. You have built a doctrine of lies based on maybe one scripture verse at best. The evolutionists did the same thing with the tooth of a pig to build an entire prehistoric missing ape like link, in an attempt to prove the bible or creation to be false or incorrect. Unless you judge yourselves and repent, you will be without excuse when you yourselves are judged by God. So please, by all means, do what I have already done and check for yourselves without all the bias and hatred toward the doctrine. Don't turn a deaf ear just because you don't like the doctrine, or me, or because of my refusal to bow to your belittling pressure tactics, or because of how I write things. Turn to God for the answer and seek Him with a pure heart, that you may know the truth. For those of you who have hardened your heart to the doctrine, God will not allow you to be able to see the truth of it, because the ground in your heart will be too hard for it to take root and the devil will snatch it away immediately, before it even has time to take any root.
Before I can give scripture from the bible to prove name it claim it is of God and is truth, I thought it necessary to divide them into various categories, that you might be able to follow my line of thought. Without it, you will miss much of what I will show you and the truths behind the doctrine itself.
Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
Mar 4:17 And [the seed] hav[ing] no root in themselves [their heart], and so endure but for a time [which for a while, believe]: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended, [and fall away from the truth, or the plant dries up and dies].
Sadly, much of the persecution comes from other so called Christians, in the form of belittling remarks, demon chasers, law oriented know-it-alls, teachers, preachers, and the like.
Because Christians, being carnally minded, look at the situation and keep that before their eyes, instead of the word of God, like Peter did when he was walking on the water and started to sink when he doubted, they too will fall away or turned from the truth and sink, as they chose to believe the situation, which is a lie, over God and His word.
The third kind of person in the sower sowing seed, whose seed got choked by the weeds because of the condition of their heart, are the same kind who have taken and used the word of God for their own gain and turned a truth or law of God into a curse, lusting for the things they used the word of God to get.
Mar 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Luk 8:14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
They are the kind of people whose heart has turned from the word and from God Himself, to the things of this world, and have abused the truth of the gospel of God's word.
If I pray for a person's healing and/or deliverance, and bind the spirit that is the source of the condition from operating in that person's life, then command the foul thing to leave, then thank God for performing His word in the life of the person I prayed for, before seeing any sign of change, saying, "thank you Father for healing or delivering this person by your word in the name of Jesus." Have I sinned or done anything wrong before God when I named and claimed what I want to happen concerning the healing or deliverance of the person I prayed for? When I cast out an evil spirit, I am in essence, commanding the hand of God to move on my behalf for the person I prayed for through naming what I want done, then claiming it as done, then seeing it manifest in the natural.
Have you ever asked the question of how the devil got to be the god of this world and whose power he took and is using? If God gave Adam the power to rule over everything in this world, and made him the god of this world, and the devil took that power from Adam when he sinned against God, then he is using God's power and moving the hand of God against everyone that opposes him. If God upholds all natural and spiritual laws by the word of His power, then the devil has to be moving the hand of God in order for him to have any effect in the natural world, for all power comes from and is performed by the Spirit of God, who watches over ever law that God Himself put in place. So if the devil is using spiritual laws put in place by God for evil, then we, as God's children can use the higher laws established through the covenant of Christ's work on the cross for good or evil.
Isa 45:11 Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my sons, and concerning the work of my hands command ye me.
The bible translations that put this verse as a question, as though saying, 'you dare question me concerning the works of my hands?', I believe are incorrect. You commanded the hand of God to move on your behalf when you asked for Jesus to be lord of you life, then claimed your salvation with thanksgiving for doing it before hearing anything from God Himself. You didn't ask Him if it was His will, you just assumed it was, based on what you read or were told by others, and that He would do what He said in His word, then when you thanked Him for doing it, you moved the hand of God to make you His Child. For it was only after you thanked Him that you were born again. For you had to believe it was already done before it was done.
Again, I commanded the work of God's finger to cast out a spirit in the name of Jesus, by naming what I want done to that spirit, then claiming it as done in faith with thanksgiving. Trusting God to perform His word of faith for me. And God does it. It's the same thing Jesus did every time He bound and cast out a spirit.
Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;...
If this sign and the others which I omitted, are not following you, then either you are doing nothing, or you do not truly believe, for you shall know them by the fruit they produce. The fruit isn't just to determine whether a person is of God or not, but it also is to show whether they believe a particular thing or not. But if the signs follow me and others who do believe, then how is it of the devil? If this happens on a consistent basis, then how can it be a doctrine of devils. It is written, that God will not hear a sinner. If that be true, then why do others and myself get results? Again it is written, that God IS truth and in Him is NO lie, and that He watches over and hastens to perform HIS word. Are you saying that God Himself is performing the word or lie of the devil? Are you saying the spirit in myself and others who have bound and cast out devils, is of the devil and not of God? That is what the Scribes and Pharisees said of Jesus, but He said to them that what they had said was the unpardonable sin! Are you saying that the doctrine is a lie of the devil? Jesus said, "how can Satan cast out Satan?", every kingdom divided against itself cannot stand but has an end. If Satan be divided against Himself, how can his kingdom stand? Are you so blind, deaf, dumb, and stupid, as the Scribes and Pharisees, whom Jesus rebuked? The bible says, if anyone preach any other gospel, let him be accursed. I am telling you that this is part of the true gospel of Jesus Christ. If it be another gospel, then I am accursed for preaching another gospel. But if I am correct, then it is you who is, most assuredly, the accursed ones.
It was then said, that you who appose the doctrine, would check the original language for accuracy in the interpretations. That would be a 180 degree change from what everyone has been doing up to the present. No one has checked scripture with a pure heart, to find out if what I have been saying is a truth of God's word or not. Which shouts resoundingly, that all of you who have argued against WOF, NICI, OR BIGI, have done so in complete ignorance. Spouting off what you know nothing about. It shows that you have been blind fools, condemning both those who believe the doctrine and the doctrine itself. It is like a judge calling someone guilty before even hearing the case or ignoring all the evidence. That's why I don't even listen to most of you. You have judged and condemned something you can't even prove to be worthy of being judged and condemned. You have built a doctrine of lies based on maybe one scripture verse at best. The evolutionists did the same thing with the tooth of a pig to build an entire prehistoric missing ape like link, in an attempt to prove the bible or creation to be false or incorrect. Unless you judge yourselves and repent, you will be without excuse when you yourselves are judged by God. So please, by all means, do what I have already done and check for yourselves without all the bias and hatred toward the doctrine. Don't turn a deaf ear just because you don't like the doctrine, or me, or because of my refusal to bow to your belittling pressure tactics, or because of how I write things. Turn to God for the answer and seek Him with a pure heart, that you may know the truth. For those of you who have hardened your heart to the doctrine, God will not allow you to be able to see the truth of it, because the ground in your heart will be too hard for it to take root and the devil will snatch it away immediately, before it even has time to take any root.
Before I can give scripture from the bible to prove name it claim it is of God and is truth, I thought it necessary to divide them into various categories, that you might be able to follow my line of thought. Without it, you will miss much of what I will show you and the truths behind the doctrine itself.
