Why I keep the Sabbath FYI.
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Thank you for getting this right and to add to this Exodus 20-8,Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, Ex 20-10, But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord Thy God; in it thou shalt not do any work, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter,thy manservent, nor thy maidservent, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is with in thy gates.
IN the commandments God mentioned the Sabbath more than once which means he is emphatizing the importance of the sabbath.
IN the commandments God mentioned the Sabbath more than once which means he is emphatizing the importance of the sabbath.
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The Sabbath, Acts 18:4,And he reasoned in the synagogue every 'sabbath, and persuaded the Jew and the Greeks.
Read Acts 13:42-45 emphasis on 44. If the sabbath has changed then this would have been a perfect time for Paul to say ok I will teach you this teaching tomorrow, but he did not say that. In stead he said I will teach it again the next sabbath. So even the new church worshiped on the Sabbath and there is not written any where in scripture and commandment or ordnance or decree to change the sabbath.
Read Acts 13:42-45 emphasis on 44. If the sabbath has changed then this would have been a perfect time for Paul to say ok I will teach you this teaching tomorrow, but he did not say that. In stead he said I will teach it again the next sabbath. So even the new church worshiped on the Sabbath and there is not written any where in scripture and commandment or ordnance or decree to change the sabbath.
Jesus worked on the Sabbath... 
Exactly right. We're not really keeping them.
Romans 8:7-8
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But we can find what God is pleased with so that we do have hope in this world.
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Romans 4:3-8
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Romans 8:7-8
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But we can find what God is pleased with so that we do have hope in this world.
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Romans 4:3-8
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Jesus was showing what God does in taking care of us and loving us. Jesus didn't work a job that was for His own benefit. He set aside the carpenter tools and took up the work of God everyday. God doesn't consider it work relieving pain and suffering of animals or people and preaching the gospel of eternal life and salvation. Would that we all could do God's work spreading the gospel and setting aside work for financial gain to keep our daily lives going with a roof over our heads... The gospel would be preached and Jesus would have returned.
which part of this says that "keeping the sabbath" = "meeting together to worship and to teach and be taught together" ?
which part of this is about meeting with believers to worship? this is about Paul evangelizing, speaking to and teaching unbelievers.
Paul met with the Jews and Greeks on the sabbath day to persuade them of the gospel. because the Jews would be gathered at the synagogues on this day. not with believers -- with unbelievers.
it's clear both from scripture
On the first day of the week we came together to break bread.
Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day,
kept on talking until midnight.
(Acts 20:7)
Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day,
kept on talking until midnight.
(Acts 20:7)
and from early church writers
And on the day which is called Sunday there is an assembly in the same place of all who live in cities or in country districts; and the records of the apostles, or the writings of the prophets, are read as long as we have time.
...
Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the day on which God, when he changed the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead.
-- Justin Martyr (140 AD) Apologies 1:67
Those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's day on which our life was sprung by him and his death.
-- Ignatius (100 AD) Epistle to the Magnesians, Chapter 9
But why is it, you ask, that we gather on the Lord's Day to celebrate our solemnities? Because that was the way the Apostles also did.
-- Tertullian (200 AD) De Fuga in Persecutione, XIV: 11
that the early believers met together on the 1st of the week ((i.e. our sunday)). not the sabbath. ...
Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the day on which God, when he changed the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead.
-- Justin Martyr (140 AD) Apologies 1:67
Those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's day on which our life was sprung by him and his death.
-- Ignatius (100 AD) Epistle to the Magnesians, Chapter 9
But why is it, you ask, that we gather on the Lord's Day to celebrate our solemnities? Because that was the way the Apostles also did.
-- Tertullian (200 AD) De Fuga in Persecutione, XIV: 11
but whatever day you meet, saturday or sunday, gathering to worship and to teach and be taught and generally fellowship in the faith is NOT "keeping the sabbath"
"keeping the sabbath" is entering His rest. it is ceasing from your own labors.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works,
as God did from his.
(Hebrews 4:9-10)
For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works,
as God did from his.
(Hebrews 4:9-10)
hanging out in a pew watching other people sing some hymns, listening to someone give a message, going out to eat lunch (forcing someone else to serve you) and then coming home to watch sportsball on TV is NOT keeping the sabbath, no matter what day you do it on.
K
Yes because in the OT ordinances it was unlawful to gather food on the Sabbath, so when the disciples were seen picking grain to eat they were called out for it.
Jesus rebuked them because they misunderstood the spiritual meaning behind the law by neglecting the finer points of it.
Jesus never rebuked anybody for law giving, and as a matter of fact did the opposite as He told others to obey what the Pharisees said but do not do as they do. Because the Pharisees did not keep the law of God they taught others to obey, and added more to it.
Jesus taught love, mercy, and forgiveness which was rejected by the Pharisees !!!
Jesus rebuked them because they misunderstood the spiritual meaning behind the law by neglecting the finer points of it.
Jesus never rebuked anybody for law giving, and as a matter of fact did the opposite as He told others to obey what the Pharisees said but do not do as they do. Because the Pharisees did not keep the law of God they taught others to obey, and added more to it.
Jesus taught love, mercy, and forgiveness which was rejected by the Pharisees !!!
David did indeed break the law, Jesus acknowledged this as it is written:
Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Jesus says it was not lawful for him to do it but only for the priests.
It is written:
Lev 24:5 And thou shalt take fine flour, and bake twelve cakes thereof: two tenth deals shall be in one cake.
Lev 24:6 And thou shalt set them in two rows, six on a row, upon the pure table before the LORD.
Lev 24:7 And thou shalt put pure frankincense upon each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, even an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 24:8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
Lev 24:9 And it shall be Aaron's and his sons'; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
There is no question that it was against the law for David to eat the shew bread as Jesus says its unlawful and The law says its only for the priests to eat in the Holy place. Only priest could enter the Holy place.
Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
Jesus says it was not lawful for him to do it but only for the priests.
It is written:
Lev 24:5 And thou shalt take fine flour, and bake twelve cakes thereof: two tenth deals shall be in one cake.
Lev 24:6 And thou shalt set them in two rows, six on a row, upon the pure table before the LORD.
Lev 24:7 And thou shalt put pure frankincense upon each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, even an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 24:8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.
Lev 24:9 And it shall be Aaron's and his sons'; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
There is no question that it was against the law for David to eat the shew bread as Jesus says its unlawful and The law says its only for the priests to eat in the Holy place. Only priest could enter the Holy place.
I agree: Jesus did not break the law of God. He said many times He only did what He saw God doing, that He did only as God instructed Him to say and to do. I wonder how they felt about His claim to be Lord of the Sabbath [/QUOITE]
I think they wanted to kill Him..... They finally succeeded too but they didn't keep Him down for long did they?
[/QUOITE]I think they wanted to kill Him..... They finally succeeded too but they didn't keep Him down for long did they?
By the way the whole law is based under the 10 commandments. but many miss the basis of the 10 commandments.
Note the beginning:
Exo 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
then follow the ten commandments but notice this verse 2 and you will see a profound truth.
There are two parts to it, the first:
Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God... namely I am YHWY Elohiym These are two names for God. Elohiym or mighty ones is what the patriarchs new Him as. but YHWY was given to Moses meaning To be or I am who I am.
YHWY is his name while Elohiym identifies Him as the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
So we have YHWY in the first part of this verse as he is known now. This is a statement of Fact.
I am YHWH the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, then the words "which" and then comes:
"...have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."
what one word would sum up what is being said here? Saved/saves as God has saved them from Egypt.
So the tenant of the 10 commandments is under the banner of YHWH saves.
Now some of you can already see where this is going.
Then comes along Jesus which is a transliteration of the greek word Iesoun, which is a Greek translation of the Hebrew word Joshua or Yhoshua meaning YHWH Saves as it is written:
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
and again:
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
The incarnate YHWH. Thus the reason concerning the Sabbath of those same 10 commandments Jesus said:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Jesus is the giver of the law. Jesus saves us as He did Israel. It was He who led Israel as it is written:
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Jesus the anointed one the messiah led Israel. Paul understood this when he said:
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
This is taken from the TNK as it is written by the Prophet Isaiah:
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
who is the "me" speaking here? Go read it is is none other than YHWH God almighty, Paul understood that Jesus was The almighty God of heaven who became a man to save men from sin.
It was Jesus who died as it is written concerning YHWY/God:
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced...
The 10 were given by Christ before he came to earth as it is written:
Joh_8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Blessings
Note the beginning:
Exo 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
then follow the ten commandments but notice this verse 2 and you will see a profound truth.
There are two parts to it, the first:
Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God... namely I am YHWY Elohiym These are two names for God. Elohiym or mighty ones is what the patriarchs new Him as. but YHWY was given to Moses meaning To be or I am who I am.
YHWY is his name while Elohiym identifies Him as the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
So we have YHWY in the first part of this verse as he is known now. This is a statement of Fact.
I am YHWH the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, then the words "which" and then comes:
"...have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage."
what one word would sum up what is being said here? Saved/saves as God has saved them from Egypt.
So the tenant of the 10 commandments is under the banner of YHWH saves.
Now some of you can already see where this is going.
Then comes along Jesus which is a transliteration of the greek word Iesoun, which is a Greek translation of the Hebrew word Joshua or Yhoshua meaning YHWH Saves as it is written:
Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
and again:
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
The incarnate YHWH. Thus the reason concerning the Sabbath of those same 10 commandments Jesus said:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Jesus is the giver of the law. Jesus saves us as He did Israel. It was He who led Israel as it is written:
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Jesus the anointed one the messiah led Israel. Paul understood this when he said:
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
This is taken from the TNK as it is written by the Prophet Isaiah:
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
who is the "me" speaking here? Go read it is is none other than YHWH God almighty, Paul understood that Jesus was The almighty God of heaven who became a man to save men from sin.
It was Jesus who died as it is written concerning YHWY/God:
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced...
The 10 were given by Christ before he came to earth as it is written:
Joh_8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Blessings
K
If you put a light behind a wooden cross, it's shadow will appear on the wall. The shadow is the exact same shape as the cross, however, only the actual cross is the real thing, not its shadow. Colossians 2:17 shows us that the physical laws of the Old Testament were only a shadow of the real thing which is found in Christ. To God the real thing is the spiritual, not the physical. In the New Testament we do spiritually what they did physically in the Old Testament.
So you are correct in saying that the sabbath is holy. So if we no longer observe the sabbath in a physical way, how do we observe it in a spiritual way? By finding rest in God- both in this life and in heaven. When Jesus said, "Come to Me all you who are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Does this mean we physically go to Him, and He physically takes a heavy backpack off our backs? No, He is speaking of a spiritual rest, a peace of mind.
So you are correct in saying that the sabbath is holy. So if we no longer observe the sabbath in a physical way, how do we observe it in a spiritual way? By finding rest in God- both in this life and in heaven. When Jesus said, "Come to Me all you who are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Does this mean we physically go to Him, and He physically takes a heavy backpack off our backs? No, He is speaking of a spiritual rest, a peace of mind.