The Catholics and my conclusion

[KennethC]

Galatians 2:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

Tell me KennethC do you believe we are Justified by our Faith or by our Works?

Did you know KennethC that the Faith we have is NOT from us that instead the Faith we have in God was GIVEN to us by God?

Romans 12:3
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.

Faith and Grace both come from God.

Are you saying through these verses, John 3:21 and Luke 6:46-49, that we Work for our Grace and Faith?

Clearly God gives us everything we need to believe in Him and follow Him.

Yes i do have discernment and from most of what you teach i do not see you having received Salvation.

So instead of answering my questions you side step them and come back with questions of your own ???

You first misunderstanding that is usually done by some is you post a scripture from Galatians speaking on WORKS OF THE LAW, this has no place in doing His works = His righteousness in our lives.

You again state discernment yet you have used a scripture out of place !!!

Yes I know the faith comes from God and is established when we hear the word and trust in what it says as Romans 10:17 states.

A true faith has obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ, therefore if the doctrine one is under allows lewdness to continue or speaks in a manner that shows disobedience to His teachings and commands then it is a false doctrine.

Those verses of John 3:21 and Luke 6:46-49 confirms obedience to the Lord by believers, and those who hear but don't do are not His but are deceived.

They do not state we work for salvation but shows the standard a true believer in Him will uphold !!!

 

[KennethC]

Did you know that everyone who teaches a different Gospel then the one given to us by the Holy Spirit is accursed?

Galatians 1:6-9
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Everyone teaching Mary was born without sin, and Mary is a Mediator, and Mary never died and was assumed into Heaven is accursed!

Galatians 2:16
[SUP]16 [/SUP] knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

Everyone teaching Justification is by Works are accursed!

Yes I know this and I also know the Holy Spirit can and will not teach different then what Lord Jesus already set forth in the gospel books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

If what is being taught is different then what Jesus gave and taught/commanded then that to is also a false gospel and it is not the Holy Spirit who is giving it.

Again also we would all need to learn to discern works of the law from doing His righteousness in our lives.

There are still does and don'ts given to new covenant believers in which the Holy Spirit will help us with, and Apostle's Paul and John both clearly break down how believers can and can not walk in the faith !!!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Sorry blue_ladybug but I would not put it that way as there are some branches of the Catholic church that do not agree with all the teachings and also speak up against some of the things the Pope says.

It is a small portion of the church but they do still exist and I would have never know this except for the fact I was in the church for 5 years and left because of the bad teachings and then doing in depth research on the church.

Yes there are a number of things they do that conflicts with the Word of God and thus should be exposed and handled, but we are to do it in a loving and respectful manner.

Because if we dig down into it, even though the Catholic errors in teaching is so openly discussed, we can actually see false or wrong teaching in pretty much every single denomination or doctrinal teaching out there.

I for one have gotten into hot water with some on here for exposing the bad parts in the teachings of the doctrines of OSAS (Calvinism) and eternal security (Augustine).

I see some spending way to much time testing and dismantling other churches or doctrines but not testing their own churches teachings. This is very dangerous if not done !!!

To clarify my previous statement, I meant that catholics are willingly blind to the fact that praying to Mary, bowing down to statues, etc, is idol worship. They seem to think it's okay to do that. As to being deceived as to thinking other false tenets of their faith, many are most definitely misguided.

 

[KennethC]

To clarify my previous statement, I meant that catholics are willingly blind to the fact that praying to Mary, bowing down to statues, etc, is idol worship. They seem to think it's okay to do that. As to being deceived as to thinking other false tenets of their faith, many are most definitely misguided.

Yes I understand that those things are wrong, but what I was pointing out that not all people realize is that not all Catholic's do that. Like I said there are some (very small group) that do not hold to all those things in the Catholic church, as I have seen some that even come out and speak out against the Pope at times.

Even the Protestant church still adheres to some of their teachings even though they are the one's who you see more then others speaking against the Catholic church. I have even seen some of them speak on and adhere to the same apostate teachers that the Catholic church holds to.

The other thing I see all the time is the false history teaching of the church, as the term catholic was not used tell the 2nd century (101-200 A.D.). Apostle Peter died around 67 A.D. before the term catholic was even used, so how can Peter be the first Pope of a church that didn't exist ???

Not to mention the term catholic was not a denominational term then in the 2nd century as it is now, that change was done around the 4th century !!!

 

[Magenta]

Yes I understand that those things are wrong, but what I was pointing out that not all people realize is that not all Catholic's do that. Like I said there are some (very small group) that do not hold to all those things in the Catholic church, as I have seen some that even come out and speak out against the Pope at times.

Even the Protestant church still adheres to some of their teachings even though they are the one's who you see more then others speaking against the Catholic church. I have even seen some of them speak on and adhere to the same apostate teachers that the Catholic church holds to.

The other thing I see all the time is the false history teaching of the church, as the term catholic was not used tell the 2nd century (101-200 A.D.). Apostle Peter died around 67 A.D. before the term catholic was even used, so how can Peter be the first Pope of a church that didn't exist ???

Not to mention the term catholic was not a denominational term then in the 2nd century as it is now, that change was done around the 4th century !!!

Roman Catholics are not allowed to reject the infallible dogmas. If they do they have essentially rejected the Roman Catholic church, or, conversely/put another way, The Roman Catholic church rejects them. There is no escaping the fact that as Roman Catholics they are bound to accept teachings we find so reprehensible.

 

[Mec99]

Its by Faith we become Righteous, not by doing or keeping any Law or by ANY Works we do!

Philippians 3:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

 

[KennethC]

Roman Catholics are not allowed to reject the infallible dogmas. If they do they have essentially rejected the Roman Catholic church, or, conversely/put another way, The Roman Catholic church rejects them. There is no escaping the fact that as Roman Catholics they are bound to accept teachings we find so reprehensible.

That is true by their dogmas but that still does not prevent it from happening as there are branches that do not follow all the teachings of the church. There is also two divisions the Catholic and the Roman Catholic, and I did not realize that tell researching it for myself.

Also the thing that gets me is I know they don't do all the same bowing down to statue's, calling Mary sinless, but the Protestant church does hold to a number of the same dogma teachings as the Catholic church that does not align with scripture. Yet I don't see them getting the heat that the Catholic church does for keeping those dogma's !!!

I get flack on here because I point out the false teachings of all denominations when I see them mentioned !!!

 

[Magenta]

That is true by their dogmas but that still does not prevent it from happening as there are branches that do not follow all the teachings of the church. There is also two divisions the Catholic and the Roman Catholic, and I did not realize that tell researching it for myself.

Also the thing that gets me is I know they don't do all the same bowing down to statue's, calling Mary sinless, but the Protestant church does hold to a number of the same dogma teachings as the Catholic church that does not align with scripture. Yet I don't see them getting the heat that the Catholic church does for keeping those dogma's !!!

I get flack on here because I point out the false teachings of all denominations when I see them mentioned !!!

Are there protestant denominations that hold to the infallible dogmas?

 

[KennethC]

Its by Faith we become Righteous, not by doing or keeping any Law or by ANY Works we do!

Philippians 3:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith;

Yes two parts here:

First part is speaking of our own righteousness............

Second part is speaking on doing His righteousness in our lives which is by faith..........

 

[Magenta]

I should say "so-called infallible"

 

[KennethC]

Are there protestant denominations that hold to the infallible dogmas?

Yes there is but I will not get into much discussion on here about that because it will lead to heated debates as there just like most to all denominations have branches that do not adhere to all the same teachings.

Take Baptist for example.................

I was raised in a Baptist church growing up and realized by going to events that there is different teachings within the denomination. The one thing I never heard from Baptist churches tell recently the past few years is that some of them are now teaching away from baptism (water immersion) aspect.

The other thing is I see is that one false doctrine they tried to fend off in the 90's a lot of them now adhere to !!!

Just because a person is in a certain denomination does not mean all churches in that denomination teach the same way, for instance when I was in a Catholic church for 5 years they taught in RCIA a future Pope will be the false prophet. Find another Catholic church that will admit that, there is not to many !!!

 

[epostle]

I posted the following in another thread on Catholicism. It bears repeating:

The Catholic "church" teaches that Jesus is sacrificed over and over again for the remission of sins.

An utter fabrication. It's ONE AND THE SAME SACRIFICE.

The Bible says Jesus was sacrificed only once, and for all time.

A Catholic teaching you borrowed from us. Heb. 9:23 - in this verse, the author writes that the Old Testament sacrifices were only copies of the heavenly things, but now heaven has better “sacrifices” than these. Why is the heavenly sacrifice called “sacrifices,” in the plural? Jesus died once. This is because, while Christ’s sacrifice is transcendent in heaven, it touches down on earth and is sacramentally re-presented over and over again from the rising of the sun to its setting around the world by the priests of Christ’s Church. This is because all moments to God are present in their immediacy, and when we offer the memorial sacrifice to God, we ask God to make the sacrifice that is eternally present to Him also present to us. Jesus’ sacrifice also transcends time and space because it was the sacrifice of God Himself. Scripture Catholic - THE EUCHARIST

The Catholic "church" teaches Mary is a mediator.

Misrepresentation. She is a subordinate mediator and so are you if and when you pray for others.

The Bible says Jesus is the only mediator.

Because Jesus is the only one who is both God and man. It is a Catholic teaching you borrowed from us. Mary never takes on that role, not in one single official Catholic document in a 2000 year period, yet anti-Catholics can't get off the Mary bandwagon.

The Catholic "church" teaches Mary has never sinned.

The Bible says all have sinned, and that there is none righteous - not even one. The only one who has never sinned is God/Christ.

"All" does not mean "every single one. You are force fitting scripture to suit an agenda. Scripture Catholic - THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY

The Bible also teaches Mary took an offering of a dove to the Temple for her SIN.

That just proves she obeyed the law. So did Jesus. She didn't offer a lamb and there is nothing in scripture that says Joseph and her were too poor for one. I'm sure you can figure out why doves and not a lamb.

The Catholic "church" teaches there exists a purgatory to "cleanse" people with fire, of sins the blood of Jesus didn't cover.

Wrong. This just proves you are no expert in Catholic teaching. An expert in misrepresenting and creating falsehoods maybe. Your "church" cannot reconcile God's justice and mercy.That's why you worship "faith" alone. The doctrine of purgatory originated with the Jews in primitive form, but you don't attack them, that would be politically incorrect.

The Bible says the blood of Jesus paid for every sin - the sins of the whole world.

True but it doesn't mean you will never die.

The Catholic "church" teaches that no one can be saved outside of her.

Wrong. see 817, 818, 819,

The Bible says all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

During fornication or after?

Just those five examples alone proves The Catholic "church" to be an abomination. One that is at war with God's Word. A "church" that has murdered countless people who have disagreed with her. One who has burned people at the stake for the "crime" of possessing a Bible, or translating the Bible so that others could read God's precious Word.

Hate speech. No scholarly documentation, just psychotic ranting. Plus, you managed to fit 3 lies in one sentence.

Sorry, but the differences between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are far too many and irreconcilable.

Sorry, but the difference between truth and blind prejudice is irreconcilable.

welcome to the bash fest.​

 

[KennethC]

Epostle I was in the Catholic church for 5 years and seen some of their teachings, which is why I left as they did not align with the word of God in a lot of places.

Have you heard of the Crusades and the Thirty Years War, you should have as they are well known with a ton of people as they are well known events in history ???

The Crusades the Catholic church had people put to death for not converting to Christianity, and the Thirty Years War was the back and forth killing of Catholic's and Protestants as they fought each other.

 

[epostle]

I recommend this bash fest be closed.



[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Anti-Catholicism has a long history in America. And as Philip Jenkins argues in The New Anti-Catholicism, this virulent strain of hatred--once thought dead--is alive and well in our nation, but few people seem to notice, or care. A statement that is seen as racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, or homophobic can haunt a speaker for years, writes Jenkins, but it is still possible to make hostile and vituperative public statements about Roman Catholicism without fear of serious repercussions. Jenkins shines a light on anti-Catholic sentiment in American society and illuminates its causes, looking closely at gay and feminist anti-Catholicism, anti-Catholic rhetoric and imagery in the media, and the anti-Catholicism of the academic world. For newspapers and newsmagazines, for television news and in movies, for major book publishers, the Catholic Church has come to provide a grossly stereotyped public villain. Catholic opinions, doctrines, and individual leaders are frequentlythe butt of harsh satire. Indeed, the notion that the church is a deadly enemy of women--the idea of Catholic misogyny--is commonly accepted in the news media and in popular culture, says Jenkins. And the recent pedophile priest scandal, he shows, has revived many ancient anti-Catholic stereotypes. It was said that with the election of John F. Kennedy, anti-Catholicism in America was dead. This provocative new book corrects that illusion, drawing attention to this important issue.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Philip Jenkins (not a Catholic) is a Distinguished Professor of History and Religious Studies
at Pennsylvania State University (not Catholic) [/FONT]​

 

[epostle]

Epostle I was in the Catholic church for 5 years and seen some of their teachings, which is why I left as they did not align with the word of God in a lot of places.

That depends if the teachings doesn't align with your opinion of what the word means. There is nothing in the Word that says all doctrines, practices, devotions etc., must be explicit in the Word. That is a Protestant invention and it's nowhere to be found in the Bible. Were you a participant at Mass or a spectator? 5 years a Catholic says nothing about what kind of Catholic.

Sorry to see you got infected with voluntary doubt. see 2088 Did you consult a priest about your misgivings?

Have you heard of the Crusades and the Thirty Years War, you should have as they are well known with a ton of people as they are well known events in history ???
The Crusades the Catholic church had people put to death for not converting to Christianity, and the Thirty Years War was the back and forth killing of Catholic's and Protestants as they fought each other.

You should learn from reliable sources. I don't accept anything that is not written by a historian with a Ph.D., or a person who at least uses primary or secondary source documentation. This forum doesn't require documentation so anybody can say anything. (which they do, pontification is easy, research is hard) I'm afraid your "well known events" are part of our pop culture, low on facts, high on prejudice.

The Real History of the Crusades
A series of holy wars against Islam led by power-mad popes and fought by religious fanatics? Think again.

30 YEARS WAR
"Early modern states spent decades at war with each other, ostensibly over theological differences. But, in reality, churches and states used each other for their own very practical ends. States grabbed the chance to expand their power, and churchmen sought protection and state support."[1] The painting of these conflicts as purely religious has been a bait-and-switch fostered on our culture by modernists promoting a triumphalist secular narrative of history.

Is Religion REALLY the Number One Cause of War?

According to the Encyclopedia of Wars (Phillips and Axelrod), of the 1,763 major conflicts in recorded history, only 123 of them can be classified as having been fought over religious differences. That’s less than 7 percent.
The encyclopedia also explains that the number of people killed in these conflicts amounts to only two percent. This means that even when wars have been fought over religious disputes, they tend to be less bloody than when they are fought for other reasons.

Religion is a powerful motivator, and thus is often invoked in wartime, but the real reasons most wars have been fought have nothing to do with it. Instead, they have to do with political control—either allowing certain political leaders to gain or remain in power (e.g., who is the rightful heir to the throne) or they have to do with gaining political control of resources (e.g., land, money, food supplies, transportation and trade routes) or they have to do with a particular leader’s ambitions (i.e., being remembered as a great man, or not being remembered as a weak man). When leaders aren’t being totally naked about those things, they dress them up with national pride or religion, but ultimately they are not at the root. James Akin

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The ISIS in Syria is a good example of this. The ChristianChat war on Catholicism is profoundly different, and so are the similarities.

 

[KenAllan]

Tell me epostle if not all Doctrines are in the Scriptures then what source outside of God has Doctrines that God does not have? Do you see epostle how you have opened up yourself to the false Doctrines from Satan?

If you epostle do not believe the Word of God is enough for us to live our lives by then who and what are you listening to if you are accepting Doctrines from sources that are outside of God?

2 Timothy 3:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

ALL Scripture is profitable for doctrines. ALL Scriptures is profitable for Righteousness.

Here again epostle is that word you Catholics hate the word "ALL".

Its the Scriptures from God and only the Scriptures from God that we are to use for Doctrines and for instruction in our teachings. If you are using a source of "truth" outside the Scriptures like Catholicism then you do not have ALL the Truth in you epostle.

Tell me epostle where in the Scriptures does God tell us His Scriptures do not contain ALL the Truth from Him? Where epostle? Show us Book, Chapter, and Verse where God says the Scriptures do not contain all the Truth!

 

[KennethC]

Epostle I took the RCIA classes and took part in communion as you know only members of the church are allowed to take part in, I was not just a spectator.

Also I have done research on this and used multiple sources as this is an easy topic to study on when it comes to the Crusades and the 30 Years War. The Crusades were not just against Islam as it is a well known fact that the Catholic church did have people put to death for not converting to Christianity, and the 30 Years War reference you gave mentions nothing about the Catholic and Protestant fighting that can also be well found as fact.

Did you really do research or just post what your church has told you to use because your sources are very vague ???

Also doctrine having to agree with scripture is not a Protestant invention, as even the Apostle Paul himself said we can only build on the teaching Christ already gave. He said preaching other than what Christ taught is preaching another gospel and preaching another Jesus, so Apostle Paul taught against bringing in other doctrines even before the Catholic church was formed.

By the way speaking on that when do you think the Catholic church was started ???

If you believe it was before the 2nd century (101-200 A.D.) you are wrong, as the 2nd century was when the term was first coined and then it was only used for the universal aspect that any person no matter what nationality can become a Christian. It was never used in the denominational or defining name of the Church.

Also I seen you mention that the Catholic church never mentioned that nobody outside that church is saved, but that is a lie as the teaching of saved people outside the Catholic church has only existed for a little while now. For many years after its formation they did teach that way !!!

 

[KennethC]

Tell me epostle if not all Doctrines are in the Scriptures then what source outside of God has Doctrines that God does not have? Do you see epostle how you have opened up yourself to the false Doctrines from Satan?

If you epostle do not believe the Word of God is enough for us to live our lives by then who and what are you listening to if you are accepting Doctrines from sources that are outside of God?

2 Timothy 3:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

ALL Scripture is profitable for doctrines. ALL Scriptures is profitable for Righteousness.

Here again epostle is that word you Catholics hate the word "ALL".

Its the Scriptures from God and only the Scriptures from God that we are to use for Doctrines and for instruction in our teachings. If you are using a source of "truth" outside the Scriptures like Catholicism then you do not have ALL the Truth in you epostle.

Tell me epostle where in the Scriptures does God tell us His Scriptures do not contain ALL the Truth from Him? Where epostle? Show us Book, Chapter, and Verse where God says the Scriptures do not contain all the Truth!

It is not in the bible as even Apostle Paul warned against doing such things as teaching other than what Christ already taught.

Also God Himself warns about adding and taking away from His word, yet the Catholic church says it's okay to add more doctrinal teachings to His word. We are to obey God over man !!!

 

[tik]

That seems rather simplistic and terribly faulty at the same time. Roman Catholics are required to accept dogmas that non-RCC find heretical. To say there is not much difference shows an ignorance of such RCC teachings.

You seem to be quite hostile towards Catholicism. You remind me of the some Christian cults (such as Jehovah’s witnesses) that are quite hostile towards Christianity - that’s quite alarming actually.

May I remind you that if there were no Catholicism around your denomination (which is most probably “Baptists”) would not even exist since Baptism and all the other denominations sprang out of Catholicism in 1600 AD.

Catholicism created a platform or a springboard for protestant-evangelical movement in 1600 AD. If instead of Catholicism the official religion was say Islam or Buddhism then no evangelical movement would occur in 1600. You would then be a Muslim by now or a Krishna follower or someone of that sort.

Your denomination is infantile or babyish in comparison to Catholicism. You should always remember that.

Catholicism has been around for 1600 years. Of course some shaky or weird traditions have crept in. But if Baptists or Methodists have been around for that long the same would’ve happened to them. You can travel to UK and visit some Baptist churches to see for yourself that the process has actually begun – most Baptist churches in UK are deserted

It is because of Catholic and Orthodox churches that Western and Eastern Europe became Christian. You can’t deny the extraordinary workings of the Holy Spirit through these oldest churches.

The Christian moral truths (conveyed via Catholicism) have influenced the law, art and morality of Western and Eastern Europe

Catholics and Orthodox churches are the pillars of Christian movement. You should have an overwhelming awe and respect to these two oldest Christian organizations.

So much good has been done through Catholics missionary activities

May I also remind you the cardinal truths of Catholics church as you seem to be oblivious to that. Here they are:

We worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another, and that of the Holy Spirit still another. But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, the Holy Spirit is uncreated. The Father is immeasurable, the Son is immeasurable, the Holy Spirit is immeasurable. The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings; there is but one eternal being. So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings; there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty. Yet there are not three almighty beings; there is but one almighty being. Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. Yet there are not three gods; there is but one God. Thus the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord

The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten from anyone. The Son was neither made nor created; he was begotten from the Father alone. The Holy Spirit was neither made nor created nor begotten; he proceeds from the Father and the Son.

Accordingly there is one Father, not three fathers; there is one Son, not three sons; there is one Holy Spirit, not three holy spirits. Nothing in this trinity is before or after, nothing is greater or smaller; in their entirety the three persons are coeternal and coequal with each other. So in everything we must worship their trinity in their unity and their unity in their trinity.

So we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son, is both God and human, equally. He is God from the essence of the Father, begotten before time; and he is human from the essence of his mother, born in time; completely God, completely human, with a rational soul and human flesh; equal to the Father as regards divinity, less than the Father as regards humanity

Although he is God and human, yet Christ is not two, but one. He is one, however, not by his divinity being turned into flesh, but by God's taking humanity to himself. He is one, certainly not by the blending of his essence, but by the unity of his person. For just as one human is both rational soul and flesh, so too the one Christ is both God and human.

How can you possibly be hostile towards Catholicism after all of that? There are many people who found Jesus in their life because of attending Catholic church

Holy Spirit did work through Catholicism for 1600 years and Holy spirit still working through Catholicism. YOU SHOULD NOT BLASPHEME THE WORKINGS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OR IT WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN TO YOU NEITHER IN THIS WORLD OR IN THE WORLD TO COME

 

[tik]

What's a Eucharist and a sacrament? I don't think the church I gather with has a decree to obey and what is a mortal sin?

It is astonishing that you don’t know what Eucharist is. Eucharist is the Holy Communion or Lord’s supper

It is astonishing that you don’t know what sacrament is. Eucharist and Baptism are two examples of sacraments. There are also other sacraments.

Mortal sin is the knowing and wilful violation of God's law in a serious matter, for example, idolatry, adultery, murder, slander.
If evangelical commits mortal sin then I have serious doubts whether he or she is a Christian in the first place. Well, if he is not a Christian then he wont end up in heaven. So Catholics are quite correct here as well.