Undeniably overwhelming and resounding proof of the truth of WOF, NICI, and BIGI.

[popeye]

BTW,when God begin to speak to me the night of the miracle,he showed me the sign.


Seems there is a copy of it in heaven.

 

[popeye]

It weren't too putty,but by golly we goter done.

Me an ole Jesus.

 

[popeye]

This business of praying for sick or anything else and getting zero,then testifying how we learned Gods word is just dusty hopeless suggestions HAS TO STOP.

Hunker down and get those 5 stones. Those SMOOTH ONES.
They are smooth from use.
One says "word",one says "prophetic",another says "faith",another"I am a fool for Jesus",and so on.

David reached in his pouch and grabbed one that said "I can do all things through the messiah I will prophesy about"

When his hand found it he already had told the giant "I see your head coming off" and was literally running to meet the giant.

The spear whizzed over his head. The racing David caused the giant to overshoot.David reached in his pouch and his hand felt for the right stone. It was kinda blurry and all he knew was it said something about Jesus on it. Jesus hollered"that's the one son, let er fly!!!"

Those stones are labeled in Hebrew characters,but with the gift of tongues they translate perfectly in the heat of battle.

 

[know1]

I just experienced personal revival in past week or so.

God showed up in a big way and healed my dog from incurable cushings disease.

Cushings is a death sentence as there is No CURE.

What proceeded the miracle was about a million petitions to the Throne,invoking the promises,and DEALING WITH WHY THEY WERE NOT MANIFESTING FOR MY SITUATION.

I also did what you guys Would NEVER Do. While she was sick I went to a sign co. And had a sigh made stating that Cushings was TOTALLY DESTROYED.

That invoked the prophetic.

I have possibly THE ONLY DOG ON THE PLANET CURED OF CUSHING DISEASE.

They threw me out of the k9cushing.com forum for My TESTIMONY.

I said all that to say that many infirmities actually left me as well.

Gods word works. But for me,in my backsliding,it took weeks to see ANY MANIFESTATIONS.
As well as shedding over 20 lbs.

You now see why I got my miracle and some do not.

What if I also just went with the flow and spit on the promises and left all my tools and armor in the dirt?

I would have what you guys have.

NO GUTS,NO GLORY,NO NEWS LETTER STORY.

That's a nice testimony for Jesus and the power of the word of God. Thank you for sharing that.
It's sad to see so few who really trust God and believe His word.
The church today seems to be like the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' time.
Paul summed it up when he said concerning wolves in sheep's clothing in the end times, that they would have a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof, and ever learning, but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Jesus said the same thing to the Pharisees.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
They couldn't or were unable to receive the truth of God's word, because they were of their father the devil.
I see very intelligent people on this forum, above the average intellect, far more knowledgeable in the word than I, yet ever so far from the truth and unable to hear, see, and receive it.
Remember the tares the enemy planted with the good seed, and how the lord said let both grow together? They are in the church with the truth children of God. I would say most don't really know they are a wolf in sheep's clothing or that they are not going to heaven. For Jesus said, "MANY will say to me on that day, ..."

 

[know1]

What proceeded the miracle was about a million petitions to the Throne,invoking the promises,and DEALING WITH WHY THEY WERE NOT MANIFESTING FOR MY SITUATION.

I also did what you guys Would NEVER Do. While she was sick I went to a sign co. And had a sigh made stating that Cushings was TOTALLY DESTROYED.

That invoked the prophetic.

Prophesying with God's Word
which is like forecasting the future, or speaking of things which be not as though they were, or naming something and claiming it as done.
Prophesying
WOF,NICI, or BIGI, is like a prophet prophesying. It is like God who speaks of things which be not as though they were.
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Here we have God Himself, naming or calling things that He wants, and claiming it already done. We are to follow His examples, be like or as our master, and do as He does, in His name. What we say, matters.
“I have made thee..” is in the past tense, as in, already done. What do you think God does when He calls thing which be not as though they were? First notice that God is speaking words of faith that have not come to pass in the natural, as though it is already done. He not only is prophesying but naming and claiming what He wants to be done, as done. So if God prophesies by naming things which be not and claiming them done or as though they were, shouldn't we be like God, and do the same, seeing Jesus is our example? If God does it, how is it then a doctrine of devils when we are told to do the same? Is it a sin to speak words of faith like God, by naming and claiming what you desire?
2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy;...
What do you think that more sure word of prophecy is? This verse is referring to the word of God as prophesying, in the sense of speaking of things which be not as though they were, using the promises of God under the new covenant, to get the things the child of God desires,such as good health and healing.

 

[know1]

You do not know people here and do not know their history. WOF is largely denied and disowned because it is wrong.

I have many friends who got close to all you are talking about, who followed the ideas and theology who would now deny their own allegiance, because it failed to simply deliver on the basis of name it claim it.

It is all a nice pipe dream, but when whole congregations sincerely follow this yet people die, things do not work out as they believe they should, either the faith is a lie, or they have not understood how God works. They chose the miss-understanding route, rather than full unbelief.

So yes people do have an answer, you are 20 years too late.

I know what I have read, and people generally write what they believe or have experienced. That is history enough.
So what if WOF is denied and disowned by the majority, and so what if it didn't deliver, what does that have to do with the truth of God's word? Do you reject Christ because the world rejects Christ? I suppose, in this case, that is exactly what you have done. Those who reject truth, have rejected Christ.
Those who look at and follow the majority and/or the ways of the world, and/or the natural course of things, and/or worldly things and people, are not following Christ nor have they received the truth.
This "pipe dream" you speak against happens to be the gospel that you so lightly profane. Is salvation and eternal life a pipe dream as well? Are the thousands who received the answer to their prayers, a pipe dream as well?
You would do well to stop following the world and their ways and to start following Christ.

 

[PeterJens]

So what if WOF is denied and disowned by the majority, and so what if it didn't deliver, what does that have to do with the truth of God's word?

The words you are expressing hide an assumption. If WOF does not deliver then it is a lie. What you are holding on to is that it is true, it is the fault of the believers who have failed to understand.

Let me break it down. If I say I can walk on water, believe I can walk on water, try and walk on water and sink, then I am wrong. The facts prove my failure not my belief. Jesus walked on water, Peter walked on water until he got afraid.

Now I believe if God provides the gift of faith about an issue, it will happen. Mainly though it is about our attitude to issues in life. Jesus said if we desire wisdom or understanding God will provide it.

Do you believe Jesus, or is it the failure is disbelief in people? My experience of people is many claim faith, miracles and gifts, but their life and way of relating is way off. So often things are taken in the wrong way. It is why a lot of people exalt in the gifts of the spirit, but life wears them down. It is hard to relate the glory in dwelling in the heavenlies with the earthly practical realities of life.

The way you talk is as if I do not believe Jesus. What you fail to understand is the Lord does not answer prayers according to your list of desires but His will. Very often you will find people are keen on show bizz miracles but shy off good works, showing love to those they know and getting along side people helping them through their ups and downs.

Which do you think the Lords heart is really in.

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
James 1:27

I am sure this is not what was in your mind...

 

[know1]

The words you are expressing hide an assumption. If WOF does not deliver then it is a lie. What you are holding on to is that it is true, it is the fault of the believers who have failed to understand.

Let me break it down. If I say I can walk on water, believe I can walk on water, try and walk on water and sink, then I am wrong. The facts prove my failure not my belief. Jesus walked on water, Peter walked on water until he got afraid.

I believe you overlooked two posts, or you just ignored them all together.
Posts 134 and 139.
Would you answer the question about the will of God concerning the verses and reasoning I used.
To answer your statements above, yes, the fault lies with the people of God, not God and His word. The only reason why you don't question salvation is because you don't have to experience anything like you do with healing from a disease. People know when they are healed because they are well again, but not so with salvation. With salvation, no one knows whether or not that person really got saved or not, because they didn't have to experience anything.
Paul says to stay away from those who have a FORM of godliness but deny the power thereof.
Doesn't that describe you to a T?
As for why Peter sank, it was because of his doubt, or lack of faith, which caused him to fear and sink. Before that, he was walking on water, because of his faith in the word of Jesus. The reason he started to sink was because he got to looking at what was going on around him, at the things of this world, rather than on the word of God.
That is one reason why you and so many others fail to receive from God and why WOF works against you or nothing happens. You are carnally minded, looking at the world only and believing in that. Your faith is in the natural and the natural course of things. You trust in doctors and medication because they work, to some extent, on what they were designed for in this world.
The power of God does not operate when your faith is in the things of this world.
Another reason why God's word doesn't work for you is a lack of knowledge.
The word of God say, "My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge [of the truth]".
Why are they destroyed for a lack of knowledge of the truth, when it is being or has been presented to them?
Because they reject it.
Why do they reject it?
I surmise it is because they are not of God. For if they were of God, they would, no doubt, at the very least, hear the truth and continue in God's word. Then they would come to know the truth, and then, the truth would make them free, saved, healed, delivered, made whole, and the like.
The word of God is the truth, and it is the power of God unto... not just salvation, but unto what so ever the promises of God's word the person uses it for and that it pertains to.

 

[RickyZ]

You can bank up riches here and now, or you can bank them up for heaven. You can't have both. Me, I'll do my banking for heaven.

 

[shotgunner]

You can bank up riches here and now, or you can bank them up for heaven. You can't have both. Me, I'll do my banking for heaven.

Why can't you have both? I say you can have both as long as you don't let money be your master. Abraham, David, and Solomon had both, just to name 3.

Those riches we store up in Heaven are on deposit for our needs here on this world.

 

[RickyZ]

That is an interesting theory. I wonder why Jesus said to sell off your riches then?

 

[know1]

That is an interesting theory. I wonder why Jesus said to sell off your riches then?

I can answer that one from the same place you formed your question.

Mar 10:21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
Mar 10:22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
Mar 10:23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
Mar 10:24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
Mar 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Why is is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God?
Most of the wealthy, put their trust in their riches.
And the kingdom of God is not of the things of the natural world. The kingdom of God is in the world of faith. That which is outside of faith is outside the kingdom of God/heaven.
That is why we are told, "and the just shall live by faith". Those who live by and in faith, live in the kingdom of God. Those who live in, looking at, and trust in the natural world, are not in the kingdom of God.
Again, money is not evil nor the root of it, but the love of money is.

 

[shotgunner]

That is an interesting theory. I wonder why Jesus said to sell off your riches then?

Jesus didn't tell everyone to sell their riches, only that young ruler ,because Jesus knew that wealth had become his God.

I would always caution not to let wealth take a kingship position in your life but a wealthy man with Jesus as his Lord will only be able to do more to be a blessing.

 

[RickyZ]

Jesus didn't tell everyone to sell their riches, only that young ruler

I don't believe that God ever talked to just one person. I take every word of the Bible as God talking to me. If He told a rich man to sell his riches to support the poor, I fully believe that He means I should do the same... or not accumulate them in the first place.

It's called the Holy Bible, not the hole-ly Bible. And every time you say 'that's not for me' you punch another hole in it.

 

[shotgunner]

I don't believe that God ever talked to just one person. I take every word of the Bible as God talking to me. If He told a rich man to sell his riches to support the poor, I fully believe that He means I should do the same... or not accumulate them in the first place.

It's called the Holy Bible, not the hole-ly Bible. And every time you say 'that's not for me' you punch another hole in it.

How are you going to give anything to the poor if you have nothing to give? Do you think the blessing of God makes poor and adds no sorrow?

 

[KJV1611]

I don't believe that God ever talked to just one person. I take every word of the Bible as God talking to me. If He told a rich man to sell his riches to support the poor, I fully believe that He means I should do the same... or not accumulate them in the first place.

It's called the Holy Bible, not the hole-ly Bible. And every time you say 'that's not for me' you punch another hole in it.

You know Jesus told him to do that because his money was his god.

 

[biblicalsandy]

How are you going to give anything to the poor if you have nothing to give? Do you think the blessing of God makes poor and adds no sorrow?

I have found being poor, you can still give to the poor. Like helping with chores, if they are sick. Comforting when someone is sad, or sharing the gospel with one who does not know. Giving unused clothing, to those without. Sharing recipes that can expand their finances, like how Jesus did with the fish and loaves of bread. Keeping company with one who is lonely, and much more..I did not need money to do those things..I believe all can give, if they open their minds to what is their wealth!

 

[Blain]

Money was never the root of all evil for evil existed before money did guns do not kill because on their own they can do nothing.
paper and coins credit cards and bank accounts on their own cannot do anything but the person who wields them can do either good or evil it can either consume them or they can be responsible about it.

Money or some type of currency is needed to keep order in material things, if everything were free I highly doubt that would work and they would likely turn to doing favors as a type of currency. But to help the poor or anyone for that matter it's not money that is needed it only takes a heart who is willing

 

[RickyZ]

Show me one person who accumulates wealth who doesn't worship it

 

[Blain]

Show me one person who accumulates wealth who doesn't worship it

I do not have wealth in that manner but if I did I would not worship it.