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Mitspa

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Comments are suggesting to isolate all muslims. So I ask again, if such thing happens, how do you minister them to Christ? God uses people to make disciples. That's why Jesus instructs us to do such thing.
Do you understand the fist message of the gospel is to reject all other false religions and gods? Christ is not a political agenda or a social movement to get folks to join... have you been preaching Christ to muslims? If not don't bring up that issue to cover for their crimes.
 
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They're mostly Shiites in Iran. They run their mouths a lot, but I'm pretty sure they don't do the jihadist, takfiri type violence like Al Queda, ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood, etc.
From what I understand they fund much of the terrorism against Israel .... The devil has many faces but the heart of this religion is murder whatever mask it puts on.
 
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There were moderate Nazis. Look into the attempts they made to assassinate Hitler. That's the difference I see... moderate Muslims are doing nothing to contain the radical ones.

And if it weren't for George W, we wouldn't have ISIS to contend with. So while you're stringing them up for being the radicals they are, string up ol' George as well.
im not a bush supporter at all and much on this insanity does belong to his stupidity and failure as a leader.
 

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I never said that Islam wasn't a violent religion...but peaceful Muslims are NOT the issue here. It's radical and mentally disturbed people. Imagine growing up in a war torn country and a gun is placed into your hand at a young age, they drill it into your head that this is right, that if you don't do this or that then you will die, that if you kill yourself for this purpose then you will be rewarded after death. Christianity had it's own problem with people like this for a LONG time but it has changed in the past 100 years...we just have idiots like the westboro baptist church.

The real reason is that these groups of extremist have been created are because of RECENT events, as in the past 20 years ago...not 1000 years ago. As I stated, a lot of the countries and cities in the middle east were a lot more peaceful until the US started messing around before and after 9/11...
The phrases I put in bold are simply not true. There was never a time when Islam wasn't violent (especially towards Christians). You associate LONG time violence with Christianity and RECENT time violence with Islam (????). Wow! I'm speechless.
 

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Do you understand the fist message of the gospel is to reject all other false religions and gods? Christ is not a political agenda or a social movement to get folks to join... have you been preaching Christ to muslims? If not don't bring up that issue to cover for their crimes.
Avoiding the question, I see.
 

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im not a bush supporter at all and much on this insanity does belong to his stupidity and failure as a leader.
But Bush isn't a left wing. I thought it were the left wings that was wrong with the country?
 
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But Bush isn't a left wing. I thought it were the left wings that was wrong with the country?
Bush was left-wing...with some conservative thoughts . Mccain and Romney are both left-wing.... Neo-cons Conservatives in name only ...
 
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Avoiding the question, I see.
No..you just don't like the answer. Its insane to allow these killers into our country..we can go there and preach if God ordains someone to do so. That's like saying we must let criminals out of jail because we want to preach the gospel to them...its just a silly point.
 

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No..you just don't like the answer. Its insane to allow these killers into our country..we can go there and preach if God ordains someone to do so. That's like saying we must let criminals out of jail because we want to preach the gospel to them...its just a silly point.
I never said that. You, however, have said to isolate all muslims. And you have not answered on how to minister to them if all muslims are isolated.
 

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Avoiding the question, I see.
Actually, he already answered your question. If you want to minister to Muslims, then go to their countries and minister to them. Do not preach minister of gospel on other people's peril/risk.
 
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Mitspa

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I never said that. You, however, have said to isolate all muslims. And you have not answered on how to minister to them if all muslims are isolated.
If you mean not letting them into our country? Or calling their religion the evil religion it really is? Then yes ...I would isolate from them and defend our nation and society from them...just like I would from the Nazis or any other violent and evil group.
 
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The phrases I put in bold are simply not true. There was never a time when Islam wasn't violent (especially towards Christians). You associate LONG time violence with Christianity and RECENT time violence with Islam (????). Wow! I'm speechless.

Uh, do you know English well? I never said that there was never a time that the Islamic religion wasn't violent...I don't know where you get that from the highlighted sentences. If you're referring to my comment about in the last 20 years...well, I'm talking about the extremists groups such as ISIS...which wasn't created 1000 years ago. I'm talking more or less about the situation with refugee's today and the US destroying these countries, which some were quite peaceful before our invasion, and putting guns in the hands of terrorists...I'm not talking about 1000 years ago, I'm talking about today...which is a big difference. If you don't believe that Christianity had a bloody past, well then...I suggest you study a bit more history.
 
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Uh, do you know English well? I never said that there was never a time that the Islamic religion wasn't violent...I don't know where you get that from the highlighted sentences. If you're referring to my comment about in the last 20 years...well, I'm talking about the extremists groups such as ISIS...which wasn't created 1000 years ago. I'm talking more or less about the situation with refugee's today and the US destroying these countries, which some were quite peaceful before our invasion, and putting guns in the hands of terrorists...I'm not talking about 1000 years ago, I'm talking about today...which is a big difference. If you don't believe that Christianity had a bloody past, well then...I suggest you study a bit more history.
Lady you cant find a time in history where this religion was not killing and raping people... This is not about what happened many years ago...this is what is happening NOW ... This religion now is no different than the Nazis, and until its dealt with that way? They will continue to rape and murder.
 

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Uh, do you know English well? I never said that there was never a time that the Islamic religion wasn't violent...I don't know where you get that from the highlighted sentences. If you're referring to my comment about in the last 20 years...well, I'm talking about the extremists groups such as ISIS...which wasn't created 1000 years ago. I'm talking more or less about the situation with refugee's today and the US destroying these countries, which some were quite peaceful before our invasion, and putting guns in the hands of terrorists...I'm not talking about 1000 years ago, I'm talking about today...which is a big difference. If you don't believe that Christianity had a bloody past, well then...I suggest you study a bit more history.
And I suggest you study a bit more about Islam's history of violence. Islam is extremist by definition. It's their way of working: Allah or death. It has always been like this. It's not because of the past 20 years. Did you hear of the ottoman empire? Did you hear of the fall of Constantinopole? 1000 years of Christian high civilization and culture erased in one deadly night by these barbarians. Did you hear about the christian children stolen from Romanian people (and not only Romanian people) in order to convert them in soldiers (the Janissaries) and fight against their own Christian parents? Islam has always been about cowardly murdering other people.
 
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Okay, I was at place de la republique to honor the victims. Near a thousand people were there. They were singing "oh Happy Day" and holding signs giving free hugs and then BBC radio interviewed me...which was stressful because I don't like that sort of thing. I don't know if any noticed on the news that there was a false alarm...? I was there, standing on the statue at place de la republique and my husband was standing beside me. Well, I was taking a picture and people started to scream and run. My husband got separated from me instantly. I almost got knocked off of the statue (which is kind of high up) and jumped down to start running.

So many things were going through my mind. I thought I was going to be shot in the back, how was I going to find my husband, I needed to call my mom to say goodbye if something went wrong...my husband finally found me. We went across the street to wait and I called my mom. I scared the poor woman to death because people started to run again and I was on the phone with my mother running while screaming and crying, "Mom, I don't know what's happening." just over and over. People were running into cafe's...it was this big stampede. I saw children on the ground screaming and no one cared...I feel like I saw the worst of selfish humanity tonight.

We found out that someone had set firecrackers off...REALLY?! This idiot...someone could have been trampled to death and died...people were injured because of this idiot.

So, that's what going on at the moment. This happened a few hours ago and I needed to take a breather and get out of my fight or flight mode...scariest thing in my life. So continue to pray for us...we're scared, we're jumpy but we're all together singing to God and trying to love one another...

Paris Mourners Flee After False Alarm Causes Panic
 
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This is when this gets difficult:

[SUP]43 [/SUP]“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[SUP][a][/SUP] and hate your enemy.’ [SUP]44 [/SUP]But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, [SUP]45 [/SUP]that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

... and that's even for those of us that didn't loose anyone in the attacks....
 

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So, that's what going on at the moment. This happened a few hours ago and I needed to take a breather and get out of my fight or flight mode...scariest thing in my life. So continue to pray for us...we're scared, we're jumpy but we're all together singing to God and trying to love one another...
I saw video of that happening.. craziness. I hope you all stay safe, definitely praying.
 
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There were moderate Nazis. Look into the attempts they made to assassinate Hitler. That's the difference I see... moderate Muslims are doing nothing to contain the radical ones.

And if it weren't for George W, we wouldn't have ISIS to contend with. So while you're stringing them up for being the radicals they are, string up ol' George as well.
Now, now, brother. Oboy's had seven years to do something about that demonic, cancerous tumor known as radical islam. Don't be blaming W all by himself.
 

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This is when this gets difficult:

[SUP]43 [/SUP]“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[SUP][a][/SUP] and hate your enemy.’ [SUP]44 [/SUP]But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, [SUP]45 [/SUP]that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

... and that's even for those of us that didn't loose anyone in the attacks....
You seem to believe that is more difficult for us to love the enemy than for people who actually lost their loved ones in these coward attacks. Very strange. It's quite the opposite, it is always easier to post a bible verse about loving your enemies when you are not a direct victim of terrorist attacks.