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President DoLittle is even looking bad amongst his followers.

Paris attacks: Dianne Feinstein breaks with Obama, says 'ISIL is not contained' - POLITICO

Sen. Dianne Feinstein sharply contradicted President Barack Obama on Monday, disagreeing with his claim that the Islamic State is "contained."
“I’ve never been more concerned,” the California Democrat and Intelligence Committee ranking member told Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC Monday. “I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding.”


“They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. I think we have to be prepared,” she continued. On Monday, ISIL warned it could attack Washington if the U.S. participated in France's response to the events in Paris.
 
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Our foe is simple, injustice blamed on having the wrong religious viewpoint. It relies on overreaction and provocation, breaking down the opposition into being extreme and over reaching themselves, before everything is co-ordinated and together.

Paris is still just 8 nutcases. The real question is simple, will the respect for ones fellow man conquer religious and sectarian hatred. ISIS train their followers to become psychopaths and able to murder at will innocents while calling them guilty. They are often the refuse and dislocated of our society, who see everyone else as the enemy to which the language of Muhammed fits like a hand in a glove.

They loose if we do things slowly, contained, bring real justice, social structure, care, compassion and truth to bare. They have no answer to this. Those who have murdered, butchered, raped need to stand trial.

Equally the morality of this form of Islam needs to stand trial because it is as insane, but it is just one step away from every muslim on the planet. But that is the discussion that must be had, and stopping the excuses and lies about Muhammed's approach to his enemies. Love and mercy are not words he used.

Is this WWIII? Not yet if it is played the right way. ISIS want it to be, but we have a choice and they are very weak.
Their strength is in their hatred and willingness to die, but the hatred is miss-placed and the willingness to die hangs on theology of the Caliphate. No caliphate and it all falls apart.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom...bring fear and justice to these people ...that's all they understand as Israel has proven time and time again.
 

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More of the same...

Even Dems abandon Obama’s ‘ISIS-is-losing’ claim

Responding to Obama’s charge that critics of Muslim immigration are equating refugees with increased terrorism, Gallups pled guilty.
“Media headlines, the Islamic terror experts and the people who actually speak the truth about what happened in France are saying the same thing,” Gallups told WND. “There are terrorists pretending to be refugees, and they are entering the West among the migrants. This is exactly what the Islamic State publicly announced they would attempt.”
Obama also said most of the Islamic State’s victims were Muslims and, therefore, “this is not a ‘Muslim’ problem.”

“This is a terrorist problem,” Obama said. “It is true that the most vicious terrorist groups claim to be speaking for Muslims. We have to figure out how to keep Muslim children from being ‘infected’ with these extremist thoughts and rationales.”
To that, Gallups had a blunt response.
“This is a Muslim ideological terrorist problem – plain and simple,” he said. “For Obama to even suggest otherwise is the height of denial – or worse. It seems that almost everyone else in the world gets this, except Obama and his handpicked pundits. Muslim children are being ‘infected’ in Muslim mosques, on Islamic websites, and by direct Islamic Jihad recruiting techniques.
“The rest of the world has already figured this out. The question is, ‘What is the U.S. going to do about it?’ Obama apparently answered that for us today – ‘nothing.’”
 
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I'm not a liberal. I'm against both ends of the spectrum. Conservatives give the country away to the rich, liberals give it away to the lazy and indigent. Neither is good for any of us. But that's what we're going to continue to get until all of you decide that you've had enough and THROW BOTH SIDES OUT!!!

It's true - as long as you support one or the other you'll get the government you deserve!

Talk about needing a noogie..!
True conservatives are not for the rich..they are just not jealous when hard work and honesty pays off... The neo-cons that you seem to point to are not conservatives.
 
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I'm not a liberal. I'm against both ends of the spectrum. Conservatives give the country away to the rich, liberals give it away to the lazy and indigent. Neither is good for any of us. But that's what we're going to continue to get until all of you decide that you've had enough and THROW BOTH SIDES OUT!!!

It's true - as long as you support one or the other you'll get the government you deserve!

Talk about needing a noogie..!
Conservatives kill the enemy; liberals aid and abet them.
 

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Do you think that the Indonesians seem as radical as the arabs though?


Some of the Indonesians dont really follow Muslim teachings, but there are some who really hate Christians. In my hometown, both of these religions live peacefully, but in some areas there are conflicts between these two religions, like there were some people burning the church and stuff.

Indonesia used to have 12 areas with Christian as majority, but now there are only 4 areas left. The other areas are already reigned by the imigrants from Muslim areas
 
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A couple questions. Can you tell me how many of your dear friends who are Muslims, have publically demonstrated against other Muslims who advocate violence? I recall that only hours after the 9/11 attacks, world news networks showed Muslims celebrating those attacks in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and throughout the Middle East. These were not violent Muslims, just Muslims happy to see the U.S. being attacked by radical extremists.

Last question. I have been watching Fox News for over a decade. Not once have I ever heard one person working for the network say that "all Muslims are evil". But you said they have, so I am asking you to either tell me who are the people working for Fox News that said all Muslims are evil, or retract that statement and admit you lied and made it up. I think it's often called slander, and it is unbecoming. So post proof or admit you slandered good people working at that network.
So, you're talking about my Muslim friends in Paris and the extremist Muslims in theses various countries. Just because you seem to recall Muslims in other countries dancing around, after 9/11 by the way, doesn't mean the Muslims here are the same way...your comment makes no sense whatsoever.

And yes, my Muslim friends do openly condemn the terrorist attacks. I think I said earlier that many people were joined together singing 'Oh Happy Day' at Place de la République where there is a vigil. Muslims, Christians, Atheists, etc were all joined together singing because even if all of them don't believe in the same thing, they do believe that what has happened is wrong and that we all just need to love one another stop the hate...which is what most of you are doing in this thread.

I love how you can sit behind your keyboard and assume you know what is really going on here and ask me such stupid questions...would you like to see the video I have of everyone singing? Wait, why do I have to make list of countries that were once peaceful before US invasion...why must I show you videos or anything of the sort when you have capable enough fingers to tap around on the keyboard! Go look it up yourself...I'm not your teacher. Maybe you should stop watching and reading negative bullcrap and look for the truth.

If you really want to see what Muslims are currently doing in Paris, here you go there buddyyyyy:

[video=youtube;lRbbEQkraYg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbbEQkraYg[/video]
 
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The message here is not only what he did but the fact that he put himself out there when there are some people who hate his kind...therefore he was putting himself in a tricky situation where anyone could have retaliated against him...and this is true for all Muslims who are standing out in the open against what happened. There is risk in doing this...but they are doing these things at the moment.
 
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Wait, why do I have to make list of countries that were once peaceful before US invasion.... when you have capable enough fingers to tap around on the keyboard! Go look it up yourself.
I looked for countries that were peaceful before the U.S. went to war. I didn't find one. You are the one who made the claim and you have failed to prove that claim. I'm saying you are wrong and that you made it up. Support your claim or retract it.

Same with your claim about Fox News claiming all Muslims are evil. You dodged that one in your response. Well, which Fox employees made such a claim? Can you support making such a slanderous claim or can't you? Once you make the accusation, it is up to you to prove it or take it back. What's it going to be?
 
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These children will grow up with the quran, though. And even though some people will ignore what is written in the quran for the sake of "tolerance", the quran has many many verses about violence against the unbeliever.


Muslims who are truly devote to their god are not going to be changed by our smiles and protest signs decorated with hearts, with a call to "just love". That is not the real world we live in.
 
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I looked for countries that were peaceful before the U.S. went to war. I didn't find one. You are the one who made the claim and you have failed to prove that claim. I'm saying you are wrong and that you made it up. Support your claim or retract it.

Same with your claim about Fox News claiming all Muslims are evil. You dodged that one in your response. Well, which Fox employees made such a claim? Can you support making such a slanderous claim or can't you? Once you make the accusation, it is up to you to prove it or take it back. What's it going to be?
*facepalm* I really can't even fathom how your brain works. I just typed into google, Afghanistan before wars and a big slide show from Business Insider showed what it was like back in the 60's...before us, Russia, etc destroyed the Middle East...

And most people know of Fox News and their anti-Muslim stance, with their ridiculous radical views. OH WAIT! You think the same way as them...so obviously you don't notice this, do you? Again, all you have to is move those fingers and look up about Fox News. Key words, bro!
 
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These children will grow up with the quran, though. And even though some people will ignore what is written in the quran for the sake of "tolerance", the quran has many many verses about violence against the unbeliever.


Muslims who are truly devote to their god are not going to be changed by our smiles and protest signs decorated with hearts, with a call to "just love". That is not the real world we live in.
No one ever said that Muslims (you mean RADICAL MUSLIMS btw) were going to change with love and smiles...I'm talking about Muslims standing against what happened. And THAT'S what's going to change Muslims, it has to start from the inside and move out. I was asked about this, I answer and then someone's like..."oh, well...we're not going to change Muslims with smiles and protest signs..." Do you even know devote Muslims? I do...and they stand against these acts of terrorism. I've talked to women who cover everything but their eyes...and are VERY devote and they have stood against these acts, publicly. And being a devote Muslim doesn't make them a terrorist...haha.

I was here for the Charlie Hebdo attacks and now this and each time I have stood at Place de la République and watched Muslims crying, mourning and shouting against these crimes...what else can I say...
 

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*facepalm* I really can't even fathom how your brain works. I just typed into google, Afghanistan before wars and a big slide show from Business Insider showed what it was like back in the 60's...before us, Russia, etc destroyed the Middle East...

And most people know of Fox News and their anti-Muslim stance, with their ridiculous radical views. OH WAIT! You think the same way as them...so obviously you don't notice this, do you? Again, all you have to is move those fingers and look up about Fox News. Key words, bro!


Quran 48:29- Muhammad is the messenger of allah. And those with him are hard against the unbelievers, and and merciful among themselves.


the doctrine of the muslim is to be peaceful among each other, but not to everyone else. Having peace in their own land does not prove that islam is a peaceful religion.
 

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No one ever said that Muslims (you mean RADICAL MUSLIMS btw) were going to change with love and smiles...I'm talking about Muslims standing against what happened. And THAT'S what's going to change Muslims, it has to start from the inside and move out. I was asked about this, I answer and then someone's like..."oh, well...we're not going to change Muslims with smiles and protest signs..." Do you even know devote Muslims? I do...and they stand against these acts of terrorism. I've talked to women who cover everything but their eyes...and are VERY devote and they have stood against these acts, publicly. And being a devote Muslim doesn't make them a terrorist...haha.

I was here for the Charlie Hebdo attacks and now this and each time I have stood at Place de la République and watched Muslims crying, mourning and shouting against these crimes...what else can I say...


Quran 9:111- allah hath purchased their person and their goods, for theirs is the garden of paradise. They fight in his cause, and slay and are slain, a promise binding on him in truth, through the law, the gospel and the quran. And who is more faithful to his covenant than allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded, that is the acheivement supreme.


Quran 9:123- Oh you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you, and let them find you in your hardness.


There are several more verses but I dont feel like typing all these out : p Anywho, according the allah himself, the true believer is the one who makes war on those who refuse allah. The ones who do not follow this are not the true and devout muslims, it is in FACT the ones that make war that are following what their god wants.

And there are many former muslims who have come to Christ who talk about these kind of muslims. They will tell you, these muslims do seek peace, but only for now, because they are waiting for their mahdi, who will make war with the unbelievers. In case you dont know, the muslims believe Christ will return with the mahdi, and together they will "kill the swine" (unbelievers). And according to the hadith, this day will not come until the muslims are gathered against the Jews to kill them.

Bukhari 52:177- Allahs apostle said "The hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the rock behind which a Jew will be hiding will cry out 'Oh, muslim! There is a Jew behind me, so kill him'"
 
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Well, I think we're going around in circles.
 
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So, you're talking about my Muslim friends in Paris and the extremist Muslims in theses various countries. Just because you seem to recall Muslims in other countries dancing around, after 9/11 by the way, doesn't mean the Muslims here are the same way...your comment makes no sense whatsoever.

And yes, my Muslim friends do openly condemn the terrorist attacks. I think I said earlier that many people were joined together singing 'Oh Happy Day' at Place de la République where there is a vigil. Muslims, Christians, Atheists, etc were all joined together singing because even if all of them don't believe in the same thing, they do believe that what has happened is wrong and that we all just need to love one another stop the hate...which is what most of you are doing in this thread.

I love how you can sit behind your keyboard and assume you know what is really going on here and ask me such stupid questions...would you like to see the video I have of everyone singing? Wait, why do I have to make list of countries that were once peaceful before US invasion...why must I show you videos or anything of the sort when you have capable enough fingers to tap around on the keyboard! Go look it up yourself...I'm not your teacher. Maybe you should stop watching and reading negative bullcrap and look for the truth.

If you really want to see what Muslims are currently doing in Paris, here you go there buddyyyyy:

[video=youtube;lRbbEQkraYg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbbEQkraYg[/video]


Quote "And yes, my Muslim friends do openly condemn the terrorist attacks. "

We need to see Muslims standing up and publicly condemning the attacks,specifically the leaders. Also please ask your Muslims friends how they feel about Jews.
 
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*facepalm* I really can't even fathom how your brain works. I just typed into google, Afghanistan before wars and a big slide show from Business Insider showed what it was like back in the 60's...before us, Russia, etc destroyed the Middle East...

And most people know of Fox News and their anti-Muslim stance, with their ridiculous radical views. OH WAIT! You think the same way as them...so obviously you don't notice this, do you? Again, all you have to is move those fingers and look up about Fox News. Key words, bro!


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And most people know of Fox News and their anti-Muslim stance, with their ridiculous radical views. OH WAIT! You think the same way as them...so obviously you don't notice this, do you? Again, all you have to is move those fingers and look up about Fox News. Key words, bro!"

From the Quran..."
"He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." 61:9

Also Quran 2...[h=2]And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing.[/h]
Quran (4:89) ... But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran 5...Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment

Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Quran 9-
[h=2]And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. [/h]Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Quran 47... Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.
Quran 61...[h=2]Indeed, Allah loves those who fight in His cause in a row as though they are a [single] structure joined firmly.[/h]
From the Hadith....

Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."


The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."

Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."

. He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!


Just a few verses.So please dont talk of hate and try and say Muslim is a religion of peace,it is not.And according to the Quran if you are a Muslim and are not fighting you are not as righteous.You will not reap the same reward.So if there are Muslims who are peaceful they are not living according to their holy book.
 
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*facepalm* I really can't even fathom how your brain works. I just typed into google, Afghanistan before wars and a big slide show from Business Insider showed what it was like back in the 60's...before us, Russia, etc destroyed the Middle East...

And most people know of Fox News and their anti-Muslim stance, with their ridiculous radical views. OH WAIT! You think the same way as them...so obviously you don't notice this, do you? Again, all you have to is move those fingers and look up about Fox News. Key words, bro!
I get it, you sit around Paris with a bunch of America bashing liberals and it feels right for you to go along with them and bash the U.S. yourself. The U.S. did not invade a peaceful Iraq. Agreed? The U.S. did not invade a peaceful Afghanistan. Correct? I don't care if you can find a time 100 years ago when they were less violent places. They were unstable and violent places when U.S. troops went into them. You cannot possibly prove otherwise and you have failed to do so.

Here is what those two nations looked like before we invaded them. Iraq was run by Saddam and his two sons. They murdered everyone who criticized them. They did much worse. They gassed the Kurds, including women and children. Saddam's sons would wander through the markets and pick women out to take home and repeatedly rape. Afterwards, they literally tossed them off their balcony. Some died from the fall, and others languished and died and others were shot by security, before being removed and discarded. The women's husbands were also murdered. They had some type of machine similar to a giant paper shredder, they would lower people into to torture and kill. They were alive as their lower extremities were mangled, until they lost consciousness and died as they were completely chewed to pieces.


The U.S. spent a lot of money to build a soccer stadium in Afghanistan. It was used by the Taliban to display women who did not follow the customs they declared to be law. They tortured them and murdered them on that soccer field with people forced to watch. They made it a capital crime for women to go to school and learn. They had camps where young radical Muslims learned to fight and kill. They trained young men to go to the U.S. and learn to fly airliners into buildings.


These are the two countries you declared peaceful places before the U.S. entered them. How completely absurd. Is this something you learned in Paris?


You didn't start off saying most people know of Fox News anti-Muslim stance, did you? You stated that people at Fox News stated that "all Muslims were evil." Is that a true or false statement? Did you say it? Well, you never told us who said it. What is there name? When did they allegedly say it? I googled it and here is the truth along with how you twisted the truth.

First, no employees at Fox News ever uttered the words; all Muslims are evil. But left leaning news organizations ran stories about a columnist at Worldnutdaily, named Eric Rush, who tweeted such words immediately following the Boston Marathon bombing. Rush had appeared on CNN and Fox News in the past, discussing President Obama's relationship to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. For most liberals, that was enough to conclude that Fox News itself shared his opinion about Muslims. It was clearly enough for you to imply that. Yet you have no names or videos of any Fox News employees saying such a thing. That's how people get sued for liable. Keep that in mind.
 
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Just want to chime in with a prayer and a God bless you to those who are standing up for the truth, Father, thank you for them, please bless and protect them, namely Utah, Mitspa, Yeraza, Sinnerman, Crossnote, Abing and Kayla. (among others, Lord, you know them) Thank you for them in the name of THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD AND SAVIOUR OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Amen.

Brothers and sisters, I know you know already, so this is just a reminder.
Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. The enemy roams about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. All that glitters is not gold.

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly;
and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved
blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Faithful is he that calls you, who also will do it.
Brethren, pray for us".
~1Thess5:21-25kjv~