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I AGREE WITH YOU THERE IS A BIG FALSE TEACHING ABOUT RAPTURE BEFORE TRIB AND NOBOBY SEEMS TO NOT REALISE JESUS HIMSELF SAID IN MATTHEW 24 WE WILL GO THROUGH IT EVERYBODY I ASK READS ONLY THE LAST PART OF MATTHEW AND THEY REFUSE TO READ IT ALL BECAUSE AFTER THIS THEY START QUOTING SCRIPTURES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ONE LADY GOD BLESS HER SOUL STARTED GETTING ANGRY WITH ME EVEN STARTED YELLING WHEN I TOLD HER IN A NICE RESPECTABLE MANNER TO READ ALL MATTHEW 24 AND THEN SHE TOLD ME LOL SHE NEVER EVER READ THE BIBLE BEFORE ITS WHAT HER MINISTER TOLD HER SO THAT TELLS ME THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE JUST ACCEPTING THIS FALSE RAPTURE WITHOUT EVEN CHECKING INTO IT
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In literary terms, I call this "putting words into people's mouths."
The problem with this kind of argument is that it takes the condemnation stance. God convicts, Satan condemns. That's why we need Scripture but Scripture has already been provided for both sides. Miktre and a bunch of you just keep going at it. It's time to let it go. You've done your job. Now let God do His.
The problem with this kind of argument is that it takes the condemnation stance. God convicts, Satan condemns. That's why we need Scripture but Scripture has already been provided for both sides. Miktre and a bunch of you just keep going at it. It's time to let it go. You've done your job. Now let God do His.
and what do you think pre-tribulation does?
after studying this, that's all it teaches: favoritism and escapism. We already have one person on here who says "i wont go through tribulation" when the Bible CLEARLY states you will go through tribulation in John 16:33... you cling to a man-made doctrine that offers a false hope
pre-tribbers have done the same in the past, so you cant sit here and claim that post-tribulation accuses every one... I've been accused of many things in the past by people who say if i dont believe in pre-trib, then i'm going to hell... even some people in here have implied it already.
that's right. Let God do His thing... and when it comes to the point where you're still here, staring in the face of Satan incarnate, you can't whine and complain by saying "no one ever told me!"... people did tell you... but you chose to not listen. you chose to believe in your false teaching.
in fact, I honestly dont think many of you pre-tribbers will be saying "no one told me"... some will be so convinced that they're gonna be raptured up before tribulation, that when Satan does come and proclaim to be Christ, many of you will be deceived, and even kill others in the name of Satan... you don't believe me, look at Paul... Paul was convinced that killing Christians was what the Old Testament called him to do because he thought they weren't following the law...
i have a strong feeling that it will become something like that really soon... especially when Antichrist makes his appearance on the world stage
after studying this, that's all it teaches: favoritism and escapism. We already have one person on here who says "i wont go through tribulation" when the Bible CLEARLY states you will go through tribulation in John 16:33... you cling to a man-made doctrine that offers a false hope
pre-tribbers have done the same in the past, so you cant sit here and claim that post-tribulation accuses every one... I've been accused of many things in the past by people who say if i dont believe in pre-trib, then i'm going to hell... even some people in here have implied it already.
that's right. Let God do His thing... and when it comes to the point where you're still here, staring in the face of Satan incarnate, you can't whine and complain by saying "no one ever told me!"... people did tell you... but you chose to not listen. you chose to believe in your false teaching.
in fact, I honestly dont think many of you pre-tribbers will be saying "no one told me"... some will be so convinced that they're gonna be raptured up before tribulation, that when Satan does come and proclaim to be Christ, many of you will be deceived, and even kill others in the name of Satan... you don't believe me, look at Paul... Paul was convinced that killing Christians was what the Old Testament called him to do because he thought they weren't following the law...
i have a strong feeling that it will become something like that really soon... especially when Antichrist makes his appearance on the world stage
I'm not here to judge people when it comes to pre-trib or post-trib, however God has called us to not be deceived about the End Times... I grew up with the concept of pre-trib all my life, and now having seen the loop-holes and the sin that accompanies it, i accept it for what it is: a lie from Satan.
I let God do whatever He wants with this timing, because He has this completely under control, but there will be MANY people who will be hurt, confused, discouraged, and angry when their pre-trib rapture doesn't come to pass... it's not something i want to see happen.
I let God do whatever He wants with this timing, because He has this completely under control, but there will be MANY people who will be hurt, confused, discouraged, and angry when their pre-trib rapture doesn't come to pass... it's not something i want to see happen.
i dont say these things out of hatred... i say this out of love... it gets frustrating to see Satan have such a stronghold on Christians today to have them think "I wont suffer for the name of Christ"... that is dangerous thinking... that has the ability to lead even the most devout Christian astray
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But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:4
The day of the Lord will come as a theif to those who are not prepared, but to the Bible believing Christian who is a watchman, he will see the day approaching. Some people have no idea how close we are to the end time. The day may creep of on some of them as a theif. But some of us who are watching, we are waiting for the Great Tribulation to start.
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So if they jump off a bridge, you should jump off a bridge too, then? That is a pathetic reason to do what you're doing. Just because a group of people have forgotten that it's not their job to convince, it doesn't mean you have to follow after them in the same manner.
I'll let Commonsense answer your question.
I'll let Commonsense answer your question.
common sense?... okay, lets use common sense to answer the question:
in the history of the church, post-tribulation has historical evidence and Biblical teaching starting from the early church in the 2nd Century and found in writings such as Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Justin Martyr...
where as pre-tribulation only started it's rise in the early 19th century with Edward Irving in the Catholic Apostolic Church in Scotland...
if pre-trib were so important, as all of you pre-tribbers state, God would of not hid it from the church for 1600 years...
common sense says:
there's something wrong with pre-tribulation.
in the history of the church, post-tribulation has historical evidence and Biblical teaching starting from the early church in the 2nd Century and found in writings such as Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Justin Martyr...
where as pre-tribulation only started it's rise in the early 19th century with Edward Irving in the Catholic Apostolic Church in Scotland...
if pre-trib were so important, as all of you pre-tribbers state, God would of not hid it from the church for 1600 years...
common sense says:
there's something wrong with pre-tribulation.