Unicorns in the Bible

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didymos

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The bottom line is we don't exactly know the final word on what it was. But let us not let our modern day version of a mystic horse with wings that glows next to children sidetrack Gods meaning in all of this is my contention.

In Numbers 23:22 KJV says unicorn yes, but we need to study why to understand it better as well. I see TinTin has done a good background check on this. Other versions of the bible such as NIV, NASB, Even the Catholic Dovay-Rhiems bible historically call this KJV version of a unicorn other terms. Such as wild Ox, and Rhinoceros. Now, to note, even the Scholars tussle over this translation, but we know God didn't. The original Hebrew word "re'em" is the foundation to this. A urus or auroch, as TinTin has already mentioned was an ancestral wild version to the domesticated cattle of today. Re'em flourished in early historical times. They were a dangerous, very strong creature a lot like the Asian buffaloes, yet they are now extinct.

When the first Greek translation of the bible was prepared around 250 B.C. the re'em were already rare. Hence, why the Greeks had no word for it. So, they used the word "monokeros" which means one-horned. When it was translated into Latin they used the word, "unicornis" which means one-horned. But does not mean a horse with a single horn.

Now this is where it get's interesting...in 1611, rather than speculate, the KJV just made up a new english word "unicorn" rather as they did with "baptismo", Greek for full-water immersion, rather than offend King James I, who had been sprinkled, they invented a new word, "baptism" which could mean "sprinkled, poured, or immersed."

My point is regardless of what it is, we need to guard our hearts from mysticism or anything that drives us to a corner of thought outside of God's intentions. It is clear to me it is a literal animal for it speaks of the unicorn in context to other known species; Dogs, eagles, calves, lions, lambs, peacocks, bullocks, goats, horses, donkeys, Job 39:9-12.

In Job 39:9-12 it points out a description of this unicorn "whose strength is great" but it is useless for agricultural work, refusing to serve man or "harrow [plow] the valley." Now that simply sounds more like a Rhino than a horse with a horn to me, but whatever!

I ask the question too, where is the dodo bird today? ...It isn't! Yet , we don't doubt it once existed right?!!. We need to see the enemies angle in this too. Our modern connection to both angelic like connections and mystic endeavors, like that of the rainbow today as well, or anything that sets us apart from Gods point in the passages mentioned. I pray we guard our hearts from the subtle stepping aside from Gods point to allow for outside influences to delight in versions we want to see over what is to be seen by way of His Spirit.. Anything outside of faith is a problem, even subtilely so.
 

Budman

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Apparently the already did... :rolleyes:

The Korean Central News Agency, whose motto may or may not be “All the news that’s fit to make up,” has issued a communique stating that the a unicorn lair has been found — home of the unicorn that was ridden by King Tongmyong .
Archeologists from the Academy of Social Sciences in Pyongyang have “reconfirmed” that existence and legitimacy of the lair.

The report states:
A rectangular rock carved with words “Unicorn Lair” stands in front of the lair. The carved words are believed to date back to the period of Koryo Kingdom (918-1392)...”





Source: http://heavy.com/news/2012/12/north-korean-government-reports-discovery-of-unicorn-lair/

Love it!

 
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didymos

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You never know. They may one day find the skeleton of one. :)
Apparently they already did... :rolleyes:

The Korean Central News Agency, whose motto may or may not be “All the news that’s fit to make up,” has issued a communique stating that the a unicorn lair has been found — home of the unicorn that was ridden by King Tongmyong .
Archeologists from the Academy of Social Sciences in Pyongyang have “reconfirmed” that existence and legitimacy of the lair.

The report states:
A rectangular rock carved with words “Unicorn Lair” stands in front of the lair. The carved words are believed to date back to the period of Koryo Kingdom (918-1392)...”





Source: http://heavy.com/news/2012/12/north-korean-government-reports-discovery-of-unicorn-lair/
 
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Tintin

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Ukok, put down the grass and clear your head. Also, this thread is about unicorns, not the Behemoth. I just brought that up as a similar point where translators and commentators disagree on the identity of the beast being described.
 
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Ah yes, National Geographic: a reliable source of information. :rolleyes:




:smoke: indeed
and you can add the discovery and the history channel as well :happy:

:whistle: for we are telling this from the essense of conciousness
within this reality . . ..

:rofl: unlike those someone who dont have an idea what is real
whithin this reality of humanity
and you can also ask those kids from discovery kids
for the kingdom of heaven are made especially for them . ...

God bless us all always



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Ukok, put down the grass and clear your head. Also, this thread is about unicorns, not the Behemoth. I just brought that up as a similar point where translators and commentators disagree on the identity of the beast being described.
:smoke: so very literal in your part my brother

:rofl: haven't you learned
that you should ask first before complaining
unto things that you are anaware . ...

:whistle: for in order to serach the truth
search what is hidden in the holy scriptures


God bless us all always



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Ukok, put down the grass and clear your head. Also, this thread is about unicorns, not the Behemoth. I just brought that up as a similar point where translators and commentators disagree on the identity of the beast being described.
:smoke: so very literal in your part my brother
or shall we say that only those thoughts of yours
want to think in this situation which shows your
materialistic aspects when it comes to
what is written
:read:
Matthew 13:11
And He answering, said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the secrets of the reign of the heavens, but to them it has not been given.

12 “For whoever possesses, to him more shall be given, and he shall have overflowingly; but whoever does not possess, even what he possesses shall be taken away from him.

:rofl: haven't you learned
that you should ask first before complaining
unto things that you are anaware . ...

:whistle: for in order to search the truth
search what is hidden in the holy scriptures


God bless us all always



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Tintin

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You talk like a gnostic. I hope you're just confused.
 
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You talk like a gnostic. I hope you're just confused.
:think: and supposed we are a former gnostics :hmm:
is that something that could diffirenciate us from telling the truth :hrmm:

:smoke: by the way we are composed of diffirent beliefs
but one goal . ... : :
that is to fight against the evil one ...... :dontknow:

:rofl: and you talked like nothing else matter to you but only your self
:whistle: perhaps as a gentiles like us
would simply be distinguished from any discrimination that would be put
unto any thoughts of mistakrn identity :haha:

:glasses: and us
as a former atheis and former agnostics along with the taranta (d0)
and the former antichrist would like to see that all that is written
shall happen and if not today this all we can say
it shall happen when the time comes . ...


God bless us all always



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You talk like a gnostic. I hope you're just confused.
:smoke: and for the sake of the OP
please
:read:
Did you know they are mentioned? A friend and I were talking about this just today. In the KJV they are mentioned 6 times. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself. :D

Num 23:22
Num 24:8
Job 39:9
Job 39:10
Psa 29:6
Psa 92:10

According to Strong' s H7214, it is probably the great aurochs or wild bulls which are now extinct. The exact meaning is not known.

:rofl: how someone as yourself not noticing this things
for you once said before that you knew god is salvation
but without god's understanding by your side all is loose
from that claimed of yours

:whistle: also within that time
you haven't even noticed about godissalvation comments :haha:

:happy: just telling the truth my brother

God bless us all always


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tanakh

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I heared that they may be a type of Antelope found in the middle east called an Onyx. They have straight horns that when viewed at a distance appear as one.
 
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Tintin

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:smoke: and for the sake of the OP
please
:read:
Did you know they are mentioned? A friend and I were talking about this just today. In the KJV they are mentioned 6 times. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself. :D

Num 23:22
Num 24:8
Job 39:9
Job 39:10
Psa 29:6
Psa 92:10

According to Strong' s H7214, it is probably the great aurochs or wild bulls which are now extinct. The exact meaning is not known.

:rofl: how someone as yourself not noticing this things
for you once said before that you knew god is salvation
but without god's understanding by your side all is loose
from that claimed of yours

:whistle: also within that time
you haven't even noticed about godissalvation comments :haha:

:happy: just telling the truth my brother

God bless us all always


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If you don't understand English, it's best that you don't question my salvation over such trivial matters as determining the identity of 'unicorns' in the KJV. Also, if you can't understand my posts written in simple English, I suggest that you try far more modern translations than the KJV (which is difficult enough for native English-speaking people to read and understand).
 
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If you don't understand English, it's best that you don't question my salvation over such trivial matters as determining the identity of 'unicorns' in the KJV. Also, if you can't understand my posts written in simple English, I suggest that you try far more modern translations than the KJV (which is difficult enough for native English-speaking people to read and understand).

:rofl: and looks who cant even understand the wisdom inside the scriptures
and thats not new to us because you cannot donwgrade us with just a mere language such as your thoughts that couldn't even say a single truth inside

:happy: your heart there is a jealous one trap whithin your very tormented soul or
shall we say
envy that remains from your past and

:glasses: you should not accuses us of anything just like those grass you've mention before because that were all coming from your malicious mind



:smoke: you just making an excuses when you cannot even understand
what are the truths behind our comments


:whistle: well theres nothing new aboyt you but a just self proclaimed creature
which use god to tell everyone how his salvation is so real
but it shows how your inner being is empty
without any insignificance of the truth in both heart and soul . ...

: : and we are perfectly understand your language
such as your words who still focusing in unicorn but blind from whats the real truth

`∞` most people here are trying to explore with their diffirent analysis that we supposed
you dont even have especially from the understanding that we want to share in
this forum.

* and its not your attention we want to especially those twisted arguments of yours
speaking like a true hyprocrite and we pity for this my brother

and still may

God bless us all always



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:rofl: and you can say that again when the time comes . ...

:whistle: he will show you what he really means by smoke
when the time comes . ..

:smoke: the truth is you know a lot about that stuff
maybe it your self who you wants us to tell and not me . ...
:read:
Mark 4:11
And he was saying to them. "To you the raz (secret) of the Malchut Hashem has been given. But to the outsiders, everything remains in meshalim,
12 in order that `YIRU they may see and not have da'as V'SHIM'U they may hear and not have binah, lest they should turn and they should receive refu'ah and selicha.'" (YESHAYAH 6:9-10, TARGUM HASHIVIM)

God bless us all always


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pottersclay

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omg we went from unicorns to smoking pot. Well to the op wow I found that interesting a little fyi to consider thanks.
As for the rest of the conversation...well I will have to wait till the smoke clears.
 

blue_ladybug

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Getting back to the OP, stranger animals than unicorns exist. And stranger things have happened, a midget killed a giant, a donkey spoke, lol. Samson's hair had magic powers. Is it REALLY too hard to believe that a one-horned horse exists? :)