Literal, how? I cited earlier, for example, Revelation 13:18, "calls for wisdom" "...of a man" "666" is literally a reference to Solomon's wisdom without obedience to God in 1 Kings 10:14. Much of it is, to me, literal references to parables, but not, like a news report, more akin to a bucket list, or a no-no bucket list.
How many times was the "end times" supposed to happen, anyway?
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It would be wise to take that statement to heart as we never know if we even have tomorrow. How does one intend to be ready? The only way is to prepare our hearts by seeking love to know love to be love and for it abound richly in our hearts, a deep and intimate love with God for God and for all others is vital regardless if the rapture or the tribulation or death comes first and regardless if none of this happens at all. Having our hearts ready at all times is not just about the end times and the rapture it is vital for the state of our hearts and faith
How about a little context? The disciples were asking if NOW is the time when Jesus would restore the Kingdom to ISRAEL.
Naturally they weren't asking when he'd return because He was standing in front of them...
Act 1:6-9 So when they had come together, they asked him, "Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" (7) He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. (8) But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." (9) And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.
Naturally they weren't asking when he'd return because He was standing in front of them...
Act 1:6-9 So when they had come together, they asked him, "Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" (7) He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. (8) But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." (9) And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight.
Good day Willie,
Well, if it is one of the dumbest statements that you have ever heard, then I am in Good company, because Christ and the apostles warned all believers to watch for his coming many times, as can be seen in the following scriptures:
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"Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ ”
"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’ “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
"Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day--and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing "
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Now to answer to your question, to be ready, is to be continuing in faith, loving all people, reading his word, continuing in prayer, sowing to the Spirit and anticipating and watching for his appearing, as he told us to. The person who is sleeping, is the one who has gone back to living according to the sinful nature, with the cares of this life being coming before God in his heart and not looking for nor anticipating his coming. These are the one's of whom Jesus will say, "I don't know you!"
We are living in exciting days, because we are the generation that is seeing the signs, not the seals, trumpets and bowl signs, but those things leading up to the time of God's wrath which demonstrate that we are close. For example, I have mentioned this many times: we have scripture regarding a mark that is to be on the hand or forehead for the purpose of buying and selling, which was prophesied over 1900 hundred years ago and now we have this technology that has come out where people are being implanted with RFID chips, with one of it purposes being to make purchases. Coincidence? I think not! And since this mark, this sub-dermal device, has already been revealed and this is something that is to take place during the reign of the antichrist and that after the church has been removed, then how close are we to the Lord's appearing and our being gathered to him?
All true believers are watching for his appearing and listening for that voice that sounds like a trumpet saying "Come up here!"
Well, if it is one of the dumbest statements that you have ever heard, then I am in Good company, because Christ and the apostles warned all believers to watch for his coming many times, as can be seen in the following scriptures:
============================================
"Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ ”
"But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’ “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.
"Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day--and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing "
==================================
Now to answer to your question, to be ready, is to be continuing in faith, loving all people, reading his word, continuing in prayer, sowing to the Spirit and anticipating and watching for his appearing, as he told us to. The person who is sleeping, is the one who has gone back to living according to the sinful nature, with the cares of this life being coming before God in his heart and not looking for nor anticipating his coming. These are the one's of whom Jesus will say, "I don't know you!"
We are living in exciting days, because we are the generation that is seeing the signs, not the seals, trumpets and bowl signs, but those things leading up to the time of God's wrath which demonstrate that we are close. For example, I have mentioned this many times: we have scripture regarding a mark that is to be on the hand or forehead for the purpose of buying and selling, which was prophesied over 1900 hundred years ago and now we have this technology that has come out where people are being implanted with RFID chips, with one of it purposes being to make purchases. Coincidence? I think not! And since this mark, this sub-dermal device, has already been revealed and this is something that is to take place during the reign of the antichrist and that after the church has been removed, then how close are we to the Lord's appearing and our being gathered to him?
All true believers are watching for his appearing and listening for that voice that sounds like a trumpet saying "Come up here!"
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Oh come on, someone is really reviving that OLD Nero-like Theory again? FORGET looking for secret codes in the Bible, they never were there in the first place.
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
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To the OP
There is not any clear quote concerning whether Iranaeus truly gave an actual date when Jesus would return. I don't accept that he would play with that because he was a student of Polycarp who was a student of the Apostle John who was a student of Jesus Christ himself. So, apart from having the new testament to read for himself of what Jesus said about making predictions of his second coming.. I'm inclined to believe that the error of saying that he did give a date.. is like what so many have done concerning what Mark Biltz, not Blitz, and John Hagee have said concerning the blood moons.
The blood moons are certainly recorded in scripture in connection with the return of Jesus, but neither of them said that Jesus was going to arrive at the blood moons tetrad. But alot of people wrote blog articles as if the two men had said it.
As for Lester Sumrall, in his book entitled "I predict.." he clearly stated that he was not making any prophecies but that he was merely speculating. Anyone is allowed to do that without violating what Jesus said that no one knows the day or hour when he would come.
I dare say, I doubt that Pat Robertson was doing anymore than speculating because he too has the knowledge of what Jesus said.
As for the Catholics, they violated many scriptures so it's not surprising that they would think that they had God's approval to make so called prophecies of when Jesus would come.
Harold Camping is a clear violator, his theological preference was those of Charles Russell and the Seventh Day Adventist. Miller gave many failed so called prophecies concerning the coming of Jesus.
The remainder of listed people (to my recollection as I write this so excuse me if I missed someone) fall in the category of cults and psychics.
So, it's theologically irresponsible to put all the mentioned people in the same very large lump.
There is not any clear quote concerning whether Iranaeus truly gave an actual date when Jesus would return. I don't accept that he would play with that because he was a student of Polycarp who was a student of the Apostle John who was a student of Jesus Christ himself. So, apart from having the new testament to read for himself of what Jesus said about making predictions of his second coming.. I'm inclined to believe that the error of saying that he did give a date.. is like what so many have done concerning what Mark Biltz, not Blitz, and John Hagee have said concerning the blood moons.
The blood moons are certainly recorded in scripture in connection with the return of Jesus, but neither of them said that Jesus was going to arrive at the blood moons tetrad. But alot of people wrote blog articles as if the two men had said it.
As for Lester Sumrall, in his book entitled "I predict.." he clearly stated that he was not making any prophecies but that he was merely speculating. Anyone is allowed to do that without violating what Jesus said that no one knows the day or hour when he would come.
I dare say, I doubt that Pat Robertson was doing anymore than speculating because he too has the knowledge of what Jesus said.
As for the Catholics, they violated many scriptures so it's not surprising that they would think that they had God's approval to make so called prophecies of when Jesus would come.
Harold Camping is a clear violator, his theological preference was those of Charles Russell and the Seventh Day Adventist. Miller gave many failed so called prophecies concerning the coming of Jesus.
The remainder of listed people (to my recollection as I write this so excuse me if I missed someone) fall in the category of cults and psychics.
So, it's theologically irresponsible to put all the mentioned people in the same very large lump.
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To the OP
If you'll pardon my rather blunt opinion.. I think that it's theologically irresponsible to put all of these people in the same great big lump.
For instance, Iraneaus was a student of Polycarp who was a student the Apostle John who was a student of Jesus Christ who said that no one would know the day or hour of his coming.
I'm assuming that for everytime that Iraneaus' works were looked at, there was any number of people who snuck in his name to give credence to their list. Yet, in my research I haven't found an authoritative article stating that he gave a prophetically inspired statement. Much less even speculate. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit to think that he would not even waste his time doing it. He was an apologist against all of the Gnosticism going on in his day. Why then would he foolishly make any mere speculations about any prophecies?
But, if anyone has the bonafide documentation to prove me wrong, then please share it and I'll be soundly shamed for my mistake.
I do state it though based on the large numbers of Christians and secular media alike who wrote their articles to debunk Mark Biltz and John Hagee to make any connection between the recently ended blood moons tetrad and the Biblical text concerning the second coming of Jesus.
The objections were clearly as if either had stated that Jesus would come back during any of the tetrad moons. But in careful examination of their speeches, they'd said no such thing.
The below quote uses careful language to prevent from saying it though. However, somewhere along the line, someone called the teachings The Blood Moon Prophecy.. and all assumed that Biltz or Hagee had called it that.
There is an endtimes prophecy in connection with a blood moon (singular) spoken of in the Bible, but the blood moons tetrads are not prophetical.
Again, if anyone has a direct quote from Mark Biltz or John Hagee coining the phrase "blood moon prophecy" I'd like to see it.
2014 Apr – 2015 Sep John Hagee and Mark Biltz The so-called Blood Moon Prophecy, first predicted by Mark Blitz in 2008 and then by John Hagee in 2014. These Christian ministers claim that the tetrad in 2014 and 2015 may represent prophecies allegedly given in the Bible relating to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Those two should not be in the list.
Isaac Newton is unique in his taking so much of his life to sincerely calculate and thereby gain some understanding of certain endtimes Biblical text. To my knowledge he never made his research public strictly for financial gain, or with any irresponsible intent.
He predicted that Christ’s Millennium would begin in the year 2000 in his book Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John.
Unless I am mistaken of his motives, I'd say that he should not be in the list.
Lester Sumrall, Pat Robertson and Hal Lindsey were making speculations. The word predict is not the same as prophecying something. So they should not be in the list.
Those who'd I'd say should be in the list along with cult and psychic prognostications are Harold Camping, Charles Russell, and William Miller.
Another Christian group that is loose with so called prophecying, are the post-trib rapture believers. They state that verses of Revelation are being fulfilled by connecting the text with certain current events.
Then there're those at a certain club that invite preachers each week to give their version of recent prophecy they've allegedly received directly from God.
There's also been a recent hubbub on a certain video place about a certain Mexican preacher I believe it was, who prophesied that impending doom and destruction from God was on it's way. That day too came and went without any such thing happening.. of course. There are many users there to make false prophecies just to get a high count on their channel.
The secular are also talking their prognostications, Nostradamus, the Mayan Calendar, the year 2012.. etc.
Bottom line..
The multitude of failed and false prophecy's in no way mean that Jesus is not coming.
If you'll pardon my rather blunt opinion.. I think that it's theologically irresponsible to put all of these people in the same great big lump.
For instance, Iraneaus was a student of Polycarp who was a student the Apostle John who was a student of Jesus Christ who said that no one would know the day or hour of his coming.
I'm assuming that for everytime that Iraneaus' works were looked at, there was any number of people who snuck in his name to give credence to their list. Yet, in my research I haven't found an authoritative article stating that he gave a prophetically inspired statement. Much less even speculate. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit to think that he would not even waste his time doing it. He was an apologist against all of the Gnosticism going on in his day. Why then would he foolishly make any mere speculations about any prophecies?
But, if anyone has the bonafide documentation to prove me wrong, then please share it and I'll be soundly shamed for my mistake.
I do state it though based on the large numbers of Christians and secular media alike who wrote their articles to debunk Mark Biltz and John Hagee to make any connection between the recently ended blood moons tetrad and the Biblical text concerning the second coming of Jesus.
The objections were clearly as if either had stated that Jesus would come back during any of the tetrad moons. But in careful examination of their speeches, they'd said no such thing.
The below quote uses careful language to prevent from saying it though. However, somewhere along the line, someone called the teachings The Blood Moon Prophecy.. and all assumed that Biltz or Hagee had called it that.
There is an endtimes prophecy in connection with a blood moon (singular) spoken of in the Bible, but the blood moons tetrads are not prophetical.
Again, if anyone has a direct quote from Mark Biltz or John Hagee coining the phrase "blood moon prophecy" I'd like to see it.
2014 Apr – 2015 Sep John Hagee and Mark Biltz The so-called Blood Moon Prophecy, first predicted by Mark Blitz in 2008 and then by John Hagee in 2014. These Christian ministers claim that the tetrad in 2014 and 2015 may represent prophecies allegedly given in the Bible relating to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Those two should not be in the list.
Isaac Newton is unique in his taking so much of his life to sincerely calculate and thereby gain some understanding of certain endtimes Biblical text. To my knowledge he never made his research public strictly for financial gain, or with any irresponsible intent.
He predicted that Christ’s Millennium would begin in the year 2000 in his book Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John.
Unless I am mistaken of his motives, I'd say that he should not be in the list.
Lester Sumrall, Pat Robertson and Hal Lindsey were making speculations. The word predict is not the same as prophecying something. So they should not be in the list.
Those who'd I'd say should be in the list along with cult and psychic prognostications are Harold Camping, Charles Russell, and William Miller.
Another Christian group that is loose with so called prophecying, are the post-trib rapture believers. They state that verses of Revelation are being fulfilled by connecting the text with certain current events.
Then there're those at a certain club that invite preachers each week to give their version of recent prophecy they've allegedly received directly from God.
There's also been a recent hubbub on a certain video place about a certain Mexican preacher I believe it was, who prophesied that impending doom and destruction from God was on it's way. That day too came and went without any such thing happening.. of course. There are many users there to make false prophecies just to get a high count on their channel.
The secular are also talking their prognostications, Nostradamus, the Mayan Calendar, the year 2012.. etc.
Bottom line..
The multitude of failed and false prophecy's in no way mean that Jesus is not coming.
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Oh come on, someone is really reviving that OLD Nero-like Theory again? FORGET looking for secret codes in the Bible, they never were there in the first place.
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
Flu, Pnemonia, Shingles, HPV for older children, and so on...I see ads for vaccines quite often. And they say you NEED them in a really pushy way, like you could die if you don't get them right now!!
Those tiny things can fit easily in a vaccine. Hmmm....but not sure how they would end up in your right hand only or forehead. Weird stuff to think about though!
My understanding is the scanners would be placed in the doorways which would place your right hand near the doorway going in and out. Right hand amputees will have to have the chip in their foreheads and go to an employee with a handheld scanner. Those scanners will be on both sides of the doorway so that on the way in the check you to see if you really have money to spend, and just leaving thru a doorway, subtracts the cost of the merchandise from your account as the scanner on the right side of the door hits the back of the your hand. NO CHECK OUT LANES AT ALL, and those jobs will permanently go bye-bye. Could it be, that is the real motivation for getting people used to bringing back those recyclable canvas grocery bags.
Oh come on, someone is really reviving that OLD Nero-like Theory again? FORGET looking for secret codes in the Bible, they never were there in the first place.
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
Truly, prophecy is telling God's truth, be it in the past, present or future. Were one to make a prediction, it had better come true or it is not prophecy. This doesn't stop the modern understanding that "prophecy is future-telling", a concept in minds I'd very much like to correct. It's to this base erroneous understanding I intended the original post.
Of course Christ will return. He said it. At issue is how the message is being poorly, or in cases with intended embellished manner, portrayed.
Your reply is long, and while I'd like to give it the attention the consideration deserves, for the purpose of this forum I feel I should remain brief.
Irenaeus' most popular work was against Gnosticism in his day, or at least his perspective of Gnosticism. He also wrote extensively on a manner of "identifying the Antichrist" (where capital A in this manner infers one person central to events in end-times interpretation from Revelation). While I can't find a precise date of "500", perhaps because "I" can't find the extant reference, he certainly pursued the issue in the manner. For the sake of argument, for now, we can take your position as true.
Newton's position, as Sumrall, Robertson and Lindsey do belong, I feel, because there's no room for half-way, "apparent intentional lack of commitment". To many people they are authoritative, they have a responsibility while speaking to people less wise, and one utterance carries just as much weight as prefacing "this is really true", because people can and will fundamentally understand their words are true, prefaced or otherwise.
The argument against inclusion of Hagee and Biltz appears to carry some fallacious logic of non sequitur. If a spiritual leader stands up and says, "Let me tell you of true religion, let me tell you of Daniel, and oh, by the way, blood moon", are we to presume the person just decided to cut the monologue short and start talking about something else? "Well they didn't specifically say...", well, they did as inference, and this is not without precedent for them. It's not as if they say something to effect of, "oh and by the way snorkel", leaving the bewildered observer to question if Jesus was returning to a locality with coral reefs. What they do is intentional, no less formulaic, so that if, when, it later pans out to be bogus, they have the "out" that "you just didn't get it".
Anyway, your reply was well thought out and thank you for it. I just don't agree with all of it.
Of course Christ will return. He said it. At issue is how the message is being poorly, or in cases with intended embellished manner, portrayed.
Your reply is long, and while I'd like to give it the attention the consideration deserves, for the purpose of this forum I feel I should remain brief.
Irenaeus' most popular work was against Gnosticism in his day, or at least his perspective of Gnosticism. He also wrote extensively on a manner of "identifying the Antichrist" (where capital A in this manner infers one person central to events in end-times interpretation from Revelation). While I can't find a precise date of "500", perhaps because "I" can't find the extant reference, he certainly pursued the issue in the manner. For the sake of argument, for now, we can take your position as true.
Newton's position, as Sumrall, Robertson and Lindsey do belong, I feel, because there's no room for half-way, "apparent intentional lack of commitment". To many people they are authoritative, they have a responsibility while speaking to people less wise, and one utterance carries just as much weight as prefacing "this is really true", because people can and will fundamentally understand their words are true, prefaced or otherwise.
The argument against inclusion of Hagee and Biltz appears to carry some fallacious logic of non sequitur. If a spiritual leader stands up and says, "Let me tell you of true religion, let me tell you of Daniel, and oh, by the way, blood moon", are we to presume the person just decided to cut the monologue short and start talking about something else? "Well they didn't specifically say...", well, they did as inference, and this is not without precedent for them. It's not as if they say something to effect of, "oh and by the way snorkel", leaving the bewildered observer to question if Jesus was returning to a locality with coral reefs. What they do is intentional, no less formulaic, so that if, when, it later pans out to be bogus, they have the "out" that "you just didn't get it".
Anyway, your reply was well thought out and thank you for it. I just don't agree with all of it.
Hi Elizabeth,
Just FYI, John didn't write anything in the book of Revelation from his own understanding, but wrote down exactly what he saw and heard, for he was told:
"Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."
"Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later"
So, none of what John wrote is from his own imagination or understanding, but only the visions he was shown and what he heard. For example, when he wrote about the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars, he wrote it like that because that is exactly the vision that God showed him. Same thing with his description of the red dragon with seven heads and ten horns. In short, God is the author and John was just writing down everything he saw and heard. That being said, there is symbolism in Revelation because God displayed it that way to John in visions.
Just FYI, John didn't write anything in the book of Revelation from his own understanding, but wrote down exactly what he saw and heard, for he was told:
"Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea."
"Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later"
So, none of what John wrote is from his own imagination or understanding, but only the visions he was shown and what he heard. For example, when he wrote about the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars, he wrote it like that because that is exactly the vision that God showed him. Same thing with his description of the red dragon with seven heads and ten horns. In short, God is the author and John was just writing down everything he saw and heard. That being said, there is symbolism in Revelation because God displayed it that way to John in visions.
So you think Scripture is one of those DUMBEST STATEMENTS.
Matthew 25:10 (ASV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] And while they went away to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast: and the door was shut.
NO we know we are going in to the Marriage Feast, you we do not know about.
Matthew 25:13 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.
Luke 12:40 (HCSB)
[SUP]40 [/SUP] You also be ready, because the Son of Man is coming at an hour that you do not expect.”
Matthew 25:10 (ASV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] And while they went away to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast: and the door was shut.
NO we know we are going in to the Marriage Feast, you we do not know about.
Matthew 25:13 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.
Luke 12:40 (HCSB)
[SUP]40 [/SUP] You also be ready, because the Son of Man is coming at an hour that you do not expect.”
B
Oh come on, someone is really reviving that OLD Nero-like Theory again? FORGET looking for secret codes in the Bible, they never were there in the first place.
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
The answer to the riddle is really very simple in this modern era of computerized scanners.
TECHNOLOGY NEEDED TO FULFILL THE MARK OF THE BEAST
No 666 is not a symbol, it is only a number that identifies a man, IT SAYS SO, read it again.
Revelation 13:16-18 (NKJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
In other words it is similar to our Social Security numbers. Only this one will be three groups of 6 digits. Henry Kissenger invented such a EMERGENCY plan in the late 90s, in case the perceived Y2K world wide banking crash actually happened. Since it is the computer age, it probably will be a number imbedded in a very small microchip or biochip as they want to call those designed for humans. They are already testing the (RFID) Radio Frequency Identification Devices in humans in Florida. In particular, for Seniors with Alzheimer's to store their health records on. Instead of the chip that was about twice the size of a grain of rice, like the one in my dog's neck; they have now shrunk the RFID down to not a whole lot bigger than a grain of salt. I posted the following on another site a couple years ago, so the technology is even more advanced now. I added two links at the bottom very recently, in fact that second to the bottom link was dated 20 Nov. 2013 and has a picture of the world's fastest super computer, which doubled the size and speed of the previous record holder. Those two links show that the world really does have computers big enough and fast enough accommodate all the worlds bank accounts, and the fact that RFID readers are already starting to show up in stores, should make us sit up and take notice that the stage is set and the time could be very near.
WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
The most likely thing the Mark of the Beast could be is a biochip implant, because of the Biblical statement that one will not be able to buy or sell anything without it. They currently have built into them up to a 15 digit ID numbering system. It will not surprise me, (if the Church is still here), when the Antichrist comes to power as the Head of State of the old Roman Empire; that he averts a world wide economic collapse by converting all of the worlds monitary systems and bank accounts to function like credit cards in the form of these implanted biochips. AND watch him add a number to all three hyphenated groups of numbers stored in those Biochip IDs, such as: 123456-123456-123456. Hence his number will be 666 (6 digits dash 6 digits dash 6 digits). Also some of the Techs working on these super computers that they believe we are going to need in the near future, have jokingly referred to their super computers as the "beast"; but I am not laughing.
CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO LINKS, especially the second one:
HERE IS THE RFID MICROCHIP TV ADVERT 100% PROOF IT IS HERE - YouTube
IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market - YouTube
Hitachi Releases 2.5mm C1G2 Durable RFID Tag: Host Louis Sirico - YouTube
Under Your SkinThe War against Freedom – Human Biochip Implant
Microchip Implants
Bio-chip implant arrives for cashless transactions
Tianhe-2 Tops Supercomputer List > ENGINEERING.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GovcXrEVCc
They point is they are always wrong.
Thirty years from today, your micro chips bit will be outdated. People will be citing new leaders, new headlines and new tech all over again. It's all part of the End Times Religion.
Interesting read! But I do believe that some have indeed made a religion of End Times, following cult leaders, from Darby and Scofield to Miller, White, and Russell; to Hal Lindsay and Tim Lahaye. Although the scenerios presented in both their books and the movie adaptations are classed as "fiction."
Being ready for Jesus to return does not mean twisting Scripture to fulfill a script written by men. It does not mean taking current events and using them backwards to show the prophecies in Revelation and some of the OT books such as Daniel and Zechariah are meant for today, rather than to those people and to the Christians of the New Testament. This end times cult has the worst possible hermeutics of any other Biblical topic.
Someone in this thread mentioned Israel being a nation "proved" that the end was near. Except this israel was not established by God, but by men in the United Nations. Israel is not a Jewish nation, but a secular one. Yes, many Jews live there and yes, I do believe the Jews needed a homeland. But is this state the one prophecied about? For one thing, the end was supposed to come within a generation of Israel being established. A generation is 40 years, and certainly, the end did not come in 1988, although many predicted it. In fact, the end has still not come and we are now 67 years since Israel was founded, and still no return of Jesus.
I believe the prophecy is true, because it is in the Bible. But that does not mean that this secular state is the one the Bible speaks about. Right now, with all the unrest in the Middle East, Israel might well be destroyed. I believe it could be possible that God would then step in and establish the true Israel, the one predicted in the Bible. But that is just a guess on my part, just like all the guessing and speculation I have seen throughout this thread.
It amazes me the absolute certainty with which some people interpret Revelation, for example, in a literalistic manner, when the book is entirely symbolism. And by literalistic, I do not mean literal. That would mean a dragon would actually fly through the sky.
For me, being ready for Jesus means drawing closer to Christ. Following him and obeying him with all my heart. Serving God, other Christians and preaching the gospel with boldness to the lost. I would prefer to spend my time doing the work God has given me to do, than worrying about which symbol means what, in a chancy attempt to interpret the Bible to mean what so many false prophets have said.
By all means, be ready for the return of Jesus! Get your hearts right before God each day you live. That is what keep your light burning bright for the bridegroom means. It means that the Holy Spirit is within our hearts and lives and we are being transformed as we walk with Christ.
Being ready for Jesus to return does not mean twisting Scripture to fulfill a script written by men. It does not mean taking current events and using them backwards to show the prophecies in Revelation and some of the OT books such as Daniel and Zechariah are meant for today, rather than to those people and to the Christians of the New Testament. This end times cult has the worst possible hermeutics of any other Biblical topic.
Someone in this thread mentioned Israel being a nation "proved" that the end was near. Except this israel was not established by God, but by men in the United Nations. Israel is not a Jewish nation, but a secular one. Yes, many Jews live there and yes, I do believe the Jews needed a homeland. But is this state the one prophecied about? For one thing, the end was supposed to come within a generation of Israel being established. A generation is 40 years, and certainly, the end did not come in 1988, although many predicted it. In fact, the end has still not come and we are now 67 years since Israel was founded, and still no return of Jesus.
I believe the prophecy is true, because it is in the Bible. But that does not mean that this secular state is the one the Bible speaks about. Right now, with all the unrest in the Middle East, Israel might well be destroyed. I believe it could be possible that God would then step in and establish the true Israel, the one predicted in the Bible. But that is just a guess on my part, just like all the guessing and speculation I have seen throughout this thread.
It amazes me the absolute certainty with which some people interpret Revelation, for example, in a literalistic manner, when the book is entirely symbolism. And by literalistic, I do not mean literal. That would mean a dragon would actually fly through the sky.
For me, being ready for Jesus means drawing closer to Christ. Following him and obeying him with all my heart. Serving God, other Christians and preaching the gospel with boldness to the lost. I would prefer to spend my time doing the work God has given me to do, than worrying about which symbol means what, in a chancy attempt to interpret the Bible to mean what so many false prophets have said.
By all means, be ready for the return of Jesus! Get your hearts right before God each day you live. That is what keep your light burning bright for the bridegroom means. It means that the Holy Spirit is within our hearts and lives and we are being transformed as we walk with Christ.
One End Times, it there were more they couldn't be call the End Times, duh. 
There you go again. trying to squeeze it into a single event, when it is a period of time that spans SEVERAL DECADES.
As for the eight legged critter, I would still step on it. All you have to do is see what a brown recluse in bed with you can do, and even you will stop thinking, "Oh how cute they are.":
