EEEHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! *happy dance*
- Thread starter JFSurvivor
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I'm just writing what is written. The covenant was obviously considered to be the 10 commandments. I realize that there is a whole book (scroll), but this is what it says.
And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. Exodus 34:28
Colossians 2:13-18 I think this verse gets taken out of context A LOT because there arfe dozens and dozens and dozens of verses about why we need to keep the sabbath and the ten commandments. Here are just a few:
1 John 2:3-6
Acts: 17:2-3
Pslam 103: 13-18
Revelation 14:12
Revelation 12:17
1 John 3:21-24
Hebrews 4:9-11
Romans 13:8-10 I think this is pointing that the ten commandments show us HOW to love our neighbor so we do still need to follow them because they are the deffinition of love. Does that make sense?
John 15:10
Hosea 4:6
Isaiah 29:13-14
There is more but I don't feel like typing the whole list. So with all these verses in support of the ten commandments (which is not the mosaic law) and like two or three verses that could be interperted to say "you don't have to keep the ten commandments" does it really make sense for those verses to be interpreted that way?
1 John 2:3-6
Acts: 17:2-3
Pslam 103: 13-18
Revelation 14:12
Revelation 12:17
1 John 3:21-24
Hebrews 4:9-11
Romans 13:8-10 I think this is pointing that the ten commandments show us HOW to love our neighbor so we do still need to follow them because they are the deffinition of love. Does that make sense?
John 15:10
Hosea 4:6
Isaiah 29:13-14
There is more but I don't feel like typing the whole list. So with all these verses in support of the ten commandments (which is not the mosaic law) and like two or three verses that could be interperted to say "you don't have to keep the ten commandments" does it really make sense for those verses to be interpreted that way?
When you search it all out you will find that Jesus is our Sabbath today! The Old Testament Sabbath was a type and shadow of the real thing to come..namely Jesus.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day—
[SUP]17 [/SUP] things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Take a look at this website that talks about what commandments us Christians live by now..all with scriptures..
What is the Law Written on Our Hearts? – Escape to Reality
What is the Law Written on Our Hearts? – Escape to Reality
L
Not sure what interpretation you get with Colossians but simply put, the law was blotted out. It was nailed to the cross with Jesus.
1 John 2:3-6 : What commandments did Jesus give us? Read the Gospels.
I'm not going to go through all of these because I believe you are confusing some scripture here. I was going to continue with Acts but I believe you feel since the disciples followed the Jewish customs that it is a must for all of us to do this. Paul followed Jewish custom because he was a Jew. Read Acts 15 and the decision the Apostles and Elders made concerning the Gentiles practicing Jewish custom.
1 John 2:3-6 : What commandments did Jesus give us? Read the Gospels.
I'm not going to go through all of these because I believe you are confusing some scripture here. I was going to continue with Acts but I believe you feel since the disciples followed the Jewish customs that it is a must for all of us to do this. Paul followed Jewish custom because he was a Jew. Read Acts 15 and the decision the Apostles and Elders made concerning the Gentiles practicing Jewish custom.
At the meeting, after a long discussion, Peter stood and addressed them as follows: “Brothers, you all know that God chose me from among you some time ago to preach to the Gentiles so that they could hear the Good News and believe. God knows people’s hearts, and he confirmed that he accepts Gentiles by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as he did to us. He made no distinction between us and them, for he cleansed their hearts through faith. So why are you now challenging God by burdening the Gentile believers with a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors were able to bear? We believe that we are all saved the same way, by the undeserved grace of the Lord Jesus.”
Acts 15:7-11
Amen & amen
Acts 15:7-11
Amen & amen
"The LORD said to Moses, "Come up the mountain to me, and while you are here, I will give you two stone tablets which contain all the laws that I have written for the instruction of the people."
Hello again,
As you can see above, the two stone tablets were inscribed with the ten commandments by the finger of God. These are most definitely apart of the law that God gave Moses while he was up on the mountain. I don't know why you keep trying to separate them from the rest of the law? We are not under the law, at all! Jesus fulfilled the law for us and now we look to him as the One who purchased us for God with his own blood. Though we are not under the law, by following Christ and being led by the Spirit, we fulfill all righteousness through the obedience that comes through faith. All you need to do is to endeavor to to walk as Christ walked and when we fail at anything, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. My advice to you is to read through Galatians and Romans to gain a better understanding that we are no longer under the law, at all!
My concern for you is that you understand that for all believers it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. If anyone trusts in their own efforts to obtain salvation instead of Christ's work on the cross, then that person has been alienated from Christ and has wandered away from grace. Grace is "unmerited favor" meaning, we don't deserve it, but we've got it. If we are trusting in our own efforts, it will keep us from eternal life and that because we are not trusting solely on Christ for our salvation.
Salvation is a free gift, so stop trying to earn it!
Hello again,
As you can see above, the two stone tablets were inscribed with the ten commandments by the finger of God. These are most definitely apart of the law that God gave Moses while he was up on the mountain. I don't know why you keep trying to separate them from the rest of the law? We are not under the law, at all! Jesus fulfilled the law for us and now we look to him as the One who purchased us for God with his own blood. Though we are not under the law, by following Christ and being led by the Spirit, we fulfill all righteousness through the obedience that comes through faith. All you need to do is to endeavor to to walk as Christ walked and when we fail at anything, if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. My advice to you is to read through Galatians and Romans to gain a better understanding that we are no longer under the law, at all!
My concern for you is that you understand that for all believers it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. If anyone trusts in their own efforts to obtain salvation instead of Christ's work on the cross, then that person has been alienated from Christ and has wandered away from grace. Grace is "unmerited favor" meaning, we don't deserve it, but we've got it. If we are trusting in our own efforts, it will keep us from eternal life and that because we are not trusting solely on Christ for our salvation.
Salvation is a free gift, so stop trying to earn it!
I cited this in another thread, it's fair to understand you didn't read it. This is the covenant law. These are the commandments (mitzvot) Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
Again, the "ten words" were not the only commandments of God. It's fine they're "called commandments" because they are "commands from God". When you say, however...
"The 10 commandments were considered the old covenant"
you are being imprecise. The 613 mitzvot were the old covenant.
Again, the "ten words" were not the only commandments of God. It's fine they're "called commandments" because they are "commands from God". When you say, however...
"The 10 commandments were considered the old covenant"
you are being imprecise. The 613 mitzvot were the old covenant.
L
This is from a commentary I use sometimes
1 John 2:3
Religion has so ground into our heads the lie that right standing with God is earned by our actions, scriptures like this are almost always interpreted as the opposite of what they are really saying. This verse is not saying that keeping God’s commandments causes us to know Him; it’s saying the exact opposite. Knowing God (not just intellectually but experientially) will cause us to keep His commandments. This is how we know if we are truly born of God (see my note at 1 John 3:10). If our actions aren’t affected, then we don’t have a genuine relationship with the Lord.
Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary.
1 John 2:3
Religion has so ground into our heads the lie that right standing with God is earned by our actions, scriptures like this are almost always interpreted as the opposite of what they are really saying. This verse is not saying that keeping God’s commandments causes us to know Him; it’s saying the exact opposite. Knowing God (not just intellectually but experientially) will cause us to keep His commandments. This is how we know if we are truly born of God (see my note at 1 John 3:10). If our actions aren’t affected, then we don’t have a genuine relationship with the Lord.
Andrew Wommack's Living Commentary.
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily trips us up. And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us. We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith. Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne.
Hebrews 12:1-2
Hebrews 12:1-2
