Campus Crusade for Christ (CRU)

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JFSurvivor

JFSurvivor

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So many of you on here know I have PTSD. I went to a campus ministry group called CRU and I was having a hard time with my PTSD and I tried to tell them what I needed and they outright refused to give it to me insisting that they knew best. What did I need? People to listen and answer some Bible questions. They outright refused to do that.

So then I got triggered and they didn't understand what was happening (despite me telling them they should look up PTSD which they didn't do) and they got mad at me for something I couldn't control after and I got..."unwelcomed". They never outright said I couldn't come back but their actions made it pretty clear.

Today I wanted to go smooth things over with this one girl. I wanted to both apologize for any hurt I caused and to explain my side of the story. I got two words out and then she intrerrupted and started yelling at me and then I yelled back and then we walked away.

I met up with some friends and they said I should report CRU so I went to student life and they gave me some emails. So I sent them what happened and I am waiting for a response.

I am so frusterated and angry and I dunno what to do. :-(
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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JFSurvivor said:
What did I need? People to listen and answer some Bible questions. (...) I am so frusterated and angry and I dunno what to do. :-(
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Sounds like you still need someone to listen, JF.
 
thecreationtutor

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JFSurvivor said:
So many of you on here know I have PTSD. I went to a campus ministry group called CRU and I was having a hard time with my PTSD and I tried to tell them what I needed and they outright refused to give it to me insisting that they knew best. What did I need? People to listen and answer some Bible questions. They outright refused to do that.

So then I got triggered and they didn't understand what was happening (despite me telling them they should look up PTSD which they didn't do) and they got mad at me for something I couldn't control after and I got..."unwelcomed". They never outright said I couldn't come back but their actions made it pretty clear.

Today I wanted to go smooth things over with this one girl. I wanted to both apologize for any hurt I caused and to explain my side of the story. I got two words out and then she intrerrupted and started yelling at me and then I yelled back and then we walked away.

I met up with some friends and they said I should report CRU so I went to student life and they gave me some emails. So I sent them what happened and I am waiting for a response.

I am so frusterated and angry and I dunno what to do. :-(
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Did you think that they might not be trained or know how to deal with that, if you know your have issues, then why are you mad at their reactions? As far as the girl who yelled back, obviously probably not a Christian to be around.

What are the basis of these questions, and are you getting counsel from a Church. You live in a day where a lot of churches don't know how to handle those things. Maybe look for a church with a "stephen's ministry"

If you have enough wisdom to know how you act in certain situations, might need to use that in order to avoid certain situations. Why report CRU? Talking with the average person about PTSD issues, more than likely is not a good idea, since they have no clue what it's like. Much of the people who attend CRU are babes, or not really Christians - so CRU tries to love on them pray for them and lead them to truth.

I don't think it's fair to think that people are just able to reach out like that in a setting like CRU. Seek a counselor at a church
 
JFSurvivor

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Siberian_Khatru said:
Sounds like you still need someone to listen, JF.
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I do. And I don't have any church so I have no in person fellowship aside from my boyfriend and my boyfriend is wonderful but he's still learning too.
 
JFSurvivor

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thecreationtutor said:
Did you think that they might not be trained or know how to deal with that, if you know your have issues, then why are you mad at their reactions? As far as the girl who yelled back, obviously probably not a Christian to be around.

What are the basis of these questions, and are you getting counsel from a Church. You live in a day where a lot of churches don't know how to handle those things. Maybe look for a church with a "stephen's ministry"

If you have enough wisdom to know how you act in certain situations, might need to use that in order to avoid certain situations. Why report CRU? Talking with the average person about PTSD issues, more than likely is not a good idea, since they have no clue what it's like. Much of the people who attend CRU are babes, or not really Christians - so CRU tries to love on them pray for them and lead them to truth.

I don't think it's fair to think that people are just able to reach out like that in a setting like CRU. Seek a counselor at a church
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I don't go to a church.

I specifically told them what I needed. My exact words: "I need you to listen and answer some Biblical questions when I am ready." And they outright refused. They reached out to me to be part of the group and I told them I have this medical condition and I laid out some emotional needs and then my spiritual needs. I was hoping to get my spiritual needs met in the end but they were intertewined with my emotional needs so on some level they needed to respect my emotional needs which they did not.

Btw you sound like you know a bit about CRU...does your college have a branch of CRU there as well?
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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JFSurvivor said:
I do. And I don't have any church so I have no in person fellowship aside from my boyfriend and my boyfriend is wonderful but he's still learning too.
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One ministry I enjoyed learning from: Ligonier Ministries (R.C. Sproul). Though I've backed away from the faith, Sproul is very knowledgeable and a pretty good teacher.

But as far as finding something more personal and being able to have a dialogue and ask questions, I guess that's just a matter of finding the right someone(s). Hang in there! I would cut CRU a little bit of slack and refocus on looking for a teacher(s) that you connect with. All the best, JF.
 
JFSurvivor

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Siberian_Khatru said:
One ministry I enjoyed learning from: Ligonier Ministries (R.C. Sproul). Though I've backed away from the faith, Sproul is very knowledgeable and a pretty good teacher.

But as far as finding something more personal and being able to have a dialogue and ask questions, I guess that's just a matter of finding the right someone(s). Hang in there! I would cut CRU a little bit of slack and refocus on looking for a teacher(s) that you connect with. All the best, JF.
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But there is no one. I have looked and this isn't the first time a church has hurt me. I don't know where else to look. :-(
 
thecreationtutor

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So, why are you asking bible questions then?
If your not going to church, and not getting Biblical counseling, we shouldn't expect them to do that for you, that's not their purpose. Cru, the leaders might be better equipped for helping you, but they would probably say the same thing - you need to find a church, and seek pastoral counseling
 
JFSurvivor

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thecreationtutor said:
So, why are you asking bible questions then?
If your not going to church, and not getting Biblical counseling, we shouldn't expect them to do that for you, that's not their purpose. Cru, the leaders might be better equipped for helping you, but they would probably say the same thing - you need to find a church, and seek pastoral counseling
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There are no good churches in my area though...like NONE. I have looked and could not find one church that actually worked. So I figured CRU would be the next best thing and that was a big bucket of nope.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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But there is no one. I have looked and this isn't the first time a church has hurt me. I don't know where else to look. :-(
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Maybe not a church, then. I hear a lot of people get burned by the brick and mortar churches. Any nearby outreach groups?
 
thecreationtutor

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So, they probably took you as a person attacking them, not actually seeking help. Listening to what, and you you went about doing this. We often want people to show treat us a certain way, but we are not willing to do the same for them.

I think you might have unrealistic expectations, and are upset because no one responds the way you want them to. I think the same way,and it's led to a lot of frustration.

If a church adheres to Ephesians 4:1-6 it should be a fine church, I think maybe if we had a more humbled deportment in seeking, it probably would go better

Coming at people with a bunch of expectations and questions, and then reacting in an outburst - I don't think most will be prepared for that
 
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There is a series that you can get called Thinc Diphruntly James Macdonald _ i would highly recommend this resource to you - as you should be seeking healing as a Christian - healing sometimes takes a while I found victory over depression and continue to seek victory over sin through the renewing of my mind
 
Willie-T

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My wife is one of the strongest Christians I know, and she came to Christ through Campus Crusade for Christ. I doubt she feels there is a finer group in America.
 
Nautilus

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CRU is a social club with a christian wrapping. I went my first two years of college before I realized how superficial the whole thing was. Also how baptist it is. You would be better off seeing a school counselor for the PTSD stuff than relying on anyone from CRU. As for spiritual questions, Im not sure where you live but if there is a college there, then there are probably church plants as well. They may be harder to find than actual church buildings, but depending on what you find can be a much more helpful tight-knit community than your average church.
 
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Willie-T said:
My wife is one of the strongest Christians I know, and she came to Christ through Campus Crusade for Christ. I doubt she feels there is a finer group in America.
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It's probably changed a lot in the past 30-50 years.
 
JFSurvivor

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Nautilus said:
CRU is a social club with a christian wrapping. I went my first two years of college before I realized how superficial the whole thing was. Also how baptist it is. You would be better off seeing a school counselor for the PTSD stuff than relying on anyone from CRU. As for spiritual questions, Im not sure where you live but if there is a college there, then there are probably church plants as well. They may be harder to find than actual church buildings, but depending on what you find can be a much more helpful tight-knit community than your average church.
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But i just wanted to go to them for the spiritual side of things but in doing that I needed them to respect my emotional needs so I wouldn't be triggered. I can't learn if I am constantly being triggered all the time. Also it would be innapropriate to go to a counselor for Bible questions. Do you see my issue? It's like if I had anaphalactic shock and needed an epi-pen but people didn't respect that and told me I didn't need that and that all I needed was Jesus. Make sense?
 
FallenHearts

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Hey there, I am so sorry that you had such a horrible experience with the CRU. I too have had my fair share of bad experiences with Christian based groups. I have social anxiety and its very difficult for me to open up to people and fit in. If you cannot find any churches you like, then maybe you can find a bible study in the area? I have had better luck with bible study groups because they are small and the people are all there to learn about the word of God. Best of luck to you. Again, I am so sorry about your experience. Please pray that God brings you to some good Christian people. Let Him guide you. :)
 
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