ATTENTION ALL CHRISTIANS!!!

JFSurvivor · Dec 16, 2015

According to some people I am attention seeking. According to those same people you can't grow in Christ if you have a healthy self-esteem. You must always think bad of yourself and are not allowed to even consider the fact that you might not be the scum of the earth. If I have misquoted you feel free to correct me.

So here's the deal, it is a SAD day when I am treated better by non-Christians, Athiests, even satanists (yes I have met a satanist who offered to include me in activities. They weren't satanic activities but I still declined) than I am by Christians. I dunno if anyone else has had this experience but if you have please speak up.

Also to those hate- oh exsuse me, "loving" on me, you don't know me. You have never sat down face to face with me. Feelings do matter and they do exsist. The church is stinking cessspool of people too inscure and too stuck up to admit that they might be wrong every now and then. What now? Well now I leave, AGAIN! Aside from the few who were actually nice to me on here you are some of the most revolting people I have ever come into contact with!

JesusLives · Dec 16, 2015

I joined CC little over two years ago and when I joined after being laid off from my job of 25 years my thoughts were.... Oh Boy I am going to hang out with like minded Christians and we will have a good time together and love each other.... By the time I had been here two weeks I was called a Judaizer, among other names and not treated very welcoming by some....

I talked to God about it and He basically told me that they aren't revolting against you they are revolting against Me... So I decided to stay not because I thought I'd be treated with open arms of acceptance but because someone has to help shine a good example of what a Christian is suppose to look like.... No, I am not perfect I am human and have feelings that get hurt too. But they the religious folks at the time of Jesus treated Him pretty bad and eventually killed Him... So what do I have to complain about?

I am sorry that some of us are mean which is certainly true...as I have felt the wrath at times. But there are many who are true Christians and treat people with respect and love....Would hate to see you go. Stick around and become an example of what we are suppose to look and act like... It is what God helped me to decide over two years ago....Hugs kiddo.

Depleted · Dec 16, 2015

Thank you so much for letting me know I am a stinking cesspool of people too insecure and too stuck up to admit I'm wrong every once in a while.

Question for you. Did you read any of the other posts on this board? You don't feel a part of the church? Have you ever consider that's because you think we're all a cesspool despite thanking people for helping you? People who are members of that cesspool church? Have you ever considered trying to help others? Sure, we can't help everyone. Often we don't know enough to do that, so it's best to shut up, but occasionally? Sometimes?

Okay, I was wrong. That was more than one question... and by a long shot.

p_rehbein · Dec 16, 2015

Christ LOVES ME..........I strive to be Christ-like........

(need I explain?)

Jimbone · Dec 16, 2015

JFSurvivor said:

Well just wow. All I can say is I've never seen any of your comments come off that way. I think you have a very passionate love for our God, and just want to seek His face above all else. At 21 years old I think that is GREAT personally, and truly pray you keep it up for life and not let any Christian hypocrites turn you from our loving God. I have noticed the same thing here though and have felt like "man I get less guff on YouTube than here", at times. I'm not sure why it's that way, but I do know there are some truly great, sincere, and very loving brothers and sisters here (I count you in that group too BTW), and I really just try to stay away from all that "stuff" the best I can. No matter where you go (online) it will be that way to an extent, just know God loves you, you love Him, and try not to let the naysayers hurt you too much. Good luck sister. 8^)

Bushido8000 · Dec 16, 2015

JFSurvivor said:

I haven't seen any of your comments that your referring to but I can kinda feel ya. Keep in mind that CC isn't the same thing as a real church. Great churches tend to naturally filter out the "wackos" and holier than thous when they start talking about loving people no matter what haha. There's no filtration system on CC and it's semi-anonymous so a lot of people say things that they normally wouldn't in "real-life"

jkalyna · Dec 16, 2015

Your right, but where did these people come for. With such religious mindsets of being ugly to others, and bitter. Most of them could tell us a story that they came from a church, or are in one. Today's organized. Hur h is not like it was when Jeaus walked on this earth, to tea h and preach, he never asked for money, it was him that feed thousands, and being in church since 14, the real deliverance was when I left for a few years, was when I became unchurched, and my relationship began to blossom in Christ. Being taught money is the main priority of being a believer is a lie, it is atoll fron the devil. Most of these uunloving people did not grow their spiritual tree of the rightous fruits, but instead put natural emphasis of growing a money tree. They have been deceived of knowing what the gospel os all aout, and have not grown in love the Root, of the character and the fruits of the holy spirit. Yes Were not perfect, but James says that if we hold our tongue, and peace mark that man for he is perfect if he sinners not with his words. We're supposed to be a spiritual body here, as the Lord said, but it is not a bit different in the. Hur he's. I've been called names, in every single organized church, because I refuse to follow their teachings over Jesus Christ. Yes she's rig they hate what is within us and that is his beauty, and his freedom. There are thousands or more people that are hurting , and you know those who hurt others, have need hurt, Jesus doesn't do this, his mission was one of his fathers Love. Silent gossip in the churches is just as satanic as verbalizing it, looks and gestures , not accepting people with Jesus in them , the word says this Don't fret because of e il doers, for they shall soon be cut down. We have a right to be free to express yourself, and Ty for sharing this with boldness, Don't leave because of hurtful bitter, people and they need Jesus, churches tea h you religion and give yiu 10 percent of the word, get into the word, and let these hurtful feelings go, and love, its just a tool to severe you from the body of Christ here. You are beautiful, and god bless you.

jkalyna · Dec 16, 2015

jkalyna said:

Your right, but where did these people come for. With such religious mindsets of being ugly to others, and bitter. Most of them could tell us a story that they came from a church, or are in one. Today's organized. Hur h is not like it was when Jeaus walked on this earth, to tea h and preach, he never asked for money, it was him that feed thousands, and being in church since 14, the real deliverance was when I left for a few years, was when I became unchurched, and my relationship began to blossom in Christ. Being taught money is the main priority of being a believer is a lie, it is atoll fron the devil. Most of these uunloving people did not grow their spiritual tree of the rightous fruits, but instead put natural emphasis of growing a money tree. They have been deceived of knowing what the gospel os all aout, and have not grown in love the Root, of the character and the fruits of the holy spirit. Yes Were not perfect, but James says that if we hold our tongue, and peace mark that man for he is perfect if he sinners not with his words. We're supposed to be a spiritual body here, as the Lord said, but it is not a bit different in the. Hur he's. I've been called names, in every single organized church, because I refuse to follow their teachings over Jesus Christ. Yes she's rig they hate what is within us and that is his beauty, and his freedom. There are thousands or more people that are hurting , and you know those who hurt others, have need hurt, Jesus doesn't do this, his mission was one of his fathers Love. Silent gossip in the churches is just as satanic as verbalizing it, looks and gestures , not accepting people with Jesus in them , the word says this Don't fret because of e il doers, for they shall soon be cut down. We have a right to be free to express yourself, and Ty for sharing this with boldness, Don't leave because of hurtful bitter, people and they need Jesus, churches tea h you religion and give yiu 10 percent of the word, get into the word, and let these hurtful feelings go, and love, its just a tool to severe you from the body of Christ here. You are beautiful, and god bless you.

Sorry for the typoMistakes, iPad, so people either came this way from a.churh Huor they need Jesus as personal savior,

Blain · Dec 16, 2015

JF You are not alone this but also to say that we are most revolting people you have ever met is going a bit overboard. Anger has not place in our hearts as believers and forgiveness is abound in a heart full of God's love and grace. You have no idea how I and others have been condemned mocked treated like the scum of the world called demonic or stupid and most of this simply because of a simple disagreement over a type of doctrine even blue lady bug was called demonic because she ate candy on halloween.

Persecution is to be expected as a follower of Christ, Jesus received it the apostles received it and the church that the apostles lead received it, but responding in anger only fuels the fire responding in love grace and forgiveness stills the waters

oldthennew · Dec 16, 2015

JF,

all who come here and participate will get attention, hopefully it will be the kind kind,
and not the un-kind...but, if it is un-kind, and meant to be un-kind, then no need
to worry, we have the option of using the negative to create the positive in
our walk with our Lord....it just takes practice...but, learning can be painful,
I can assure you that you will come-out the better person for it,
wiser with a thinker skin....

jkalyna · Dec 16, 2015

Jimbone said:

Very loving people some say this is not a church building no its not, it is a web site not a building you go into But, we are a body of one Lord should be as the word says, and the same thing in a building church so it is no different, I feel close with some here than elbow to elbow in a building church. We are the church and he is coming for a church people, not a church address, or a church Denomination. Very well said in truth.

WarriorForChrist · Dec 16, 2015

JFSurvivor said:

The people you are referring to gave you sound Biblical advice and sometimes the truth hurts. So instead of listening to their advice you attack them and call them revolting. No one has said you can't grow in Christ with a healthy self esteem? Please show me what posts you are referring to.

The thread I was involved in you were saying how every church you have been in they haven't accepted you and you left. I believe you said the number was 6 churches? Now you are saying Christians on this forum aren't accepting you as well. This seems to be a trend and usually when there is a trend it is usually the person who is complaining that is causing the issues.

I'm not saying there aren't bad Christians out there and some are only into the religion for themselves and some probably aren't true Christians. But I believe each and every one of us needs to look at ourselves and ask ourselves what am I doing to cause some of the animosity I'm feeling toward other Christians.

I'm sure you are a wonderful person and are seeking answers to questions you have with the Bible and Christianity. But what I have read from you as well, is you only like the opinions people give that line up with your way of thinking. I have also noticed sound biblical advice has been given to you as well and you reject it. Whose issue is this if you won't accept biblical teachings?

I think we all need to stop attacking each other and try to help each other grow and mature as Christians. God Bless.

PennEd · Dec 16, 2015

JFSurvivor said:

Grace. Love. Peace. These are concepts the Lord has really been working on with me. When I 1st came here I was all about arguing my point, and WOE to those who felt differently than me. I spent time bashing homosexuals, muslims, Atheists, and the list goes on. Grace. Love. Peace. Alone they are incredible. Together they are unstoppable. They have the power to turn the whole board around.

Sister. You are truly loved. Maybe those that didn't express themselves perfectly to you or didn't ackowledge your feelings could have given you Grace, Love, and Peace. But now YOU have the opportunity to give THEM Grace, Love, and Peace. God Bless you in whatever decision you make, but think of that power you possess.

Blain · Dec 16, 2015

PennEd said:

You are a perfect example of how God is very much active in these forums, to turn from bashing and arguing to learning love peace and grace is proof of what I have been saying for so long both God and satan are very active in these forums. Not many of us seem to realize that every post we make (especially in the bdf) is us being used by either God or satan we show either God's heart or satans

PennEd · Dec 16, 2015

Blain said:

I'd like to thank you brother, we both know I had nothing to do with it. All glory and honor and praises to Jesus!

Siberian_Khatru · Dec 16, 2015

People have a propensity to get pretty wrapped up in their worldview and even misrepresent it. Of the four ex girlfriends I have, two did not identify as Christian, two did. The two that did not were noticeably more level headed and peaceable people than the two that claimed to be of the faith.

It's hard to give people grace and respect when you feel it's not returned in kind to you, but I think giving those things in spite of not receiving them is what it's all about.

Ugly · Dec 16, 2015

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Did it ever occur to you that maybe she learned to adopt that attitude over time, as opposed to the much less likely idea that she started out with that attitude?
I've chat with her on and off since she joined the site and I can say nothing about how she was in the past reflected the attitude she shows now. I know you've been a me ever a whole thee days, so you clearly have the history and knowledge to question her motives and reasons.

And be I have seen her reach out to a number of people and offer help. So that cheap little attempt to take a jab at her failed, largely due to your having zero previous knowledge of her beyond three days.

I actually see see it on this site all the time. And I've been a member more than 3 days. People come here seeking answers, seeking help and guidance and a number of people swarm them and tear them down.

You are displaying the very essence of what she's getting at. You're getting huffy and defensive. Making attempts to put her down all while pretending that you have a clue. Not for one second stopping and considering if there could be any truth to it. To humility. To reflection. No attempt to show love. Just anger and attacks.

Have you you ever had a point in your life where you felt frustrated or fed up with Jesus? Where you blew up on him? Do you see him responding with the same answer as you just gave? Or are you able to thank God that He was patient and loving and forgiving of your tantrum?

Since ive seen JF more than 3 days, and had number of chances to talk with her in forums and in private I can say she has been a good and decent woman who has sought truth as she tried to follow God passionately. She wanted to learn His word. She wanted to grow out of her past.
I for one enjoy when she's around because watching how much effort she puts into learning often makes me feel convicted about my own lack of effort. Funny how her walk with God convicts me of my own, lazy, walk with God when she's around, yet so many Christians who Pride themselves on their high spirituality are so quick to condemn her rather than encourage her to continue striving to know God. Even those who just joined the site.

kaylagrl · Dec 16, 2015

JFSurvivor said:

JF I think you've faced some things in life that has shaped how you see the world. You've been hurt and its easy to be offended when you've been deeply hurt.I understand how you feel,it can get rough on here. But the church/forum is like a hospital.We all need Jesus healing touch.We're all at different levels of maturity in Christ. Some of us are still spoiled babies and need more teaching. Some are unteachable and never grow up in Christ. And some are so mature that they are an example to the rest of us of how to act Christlike. I hope you stay and dont let those less mature bother you. Be encouraged by the more mature here and put all others on ignore.

cinder · Dec 16, 2015

WarriorForChrist said:

What basically happened in the other thread (about not feeling like part of the body) is what has probably happened to the OP in most of her real life interactions as well. She's drowning in a sea of emotions and confusion and cries out for help. The people standing safe and secure on shore tell her just swim to shore, it's easy. She tries to explain that she doesn't know (or can't remember) how to swim. And the people on shore basically tell her that if she can't be bothered to learn to swim then that's her problem and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

And the huge problem with this approach is that it still leaves her drowning in the middle of the sea. She probably doesn't even need to know "what she should be doing", she's looking for some long term help in walking (or swimming to continue the drowning analogy) through it all. And she thinks that maybe those people who claim to follow a god that became a man, probably knew what it was like to be called bastard because everyone knows he was conceived out of wedlock, healed impossible hurts, treated traitors and whores kindly and like actual human beings, and sacrificed himself for humanity, maybe the people who follow that God would be willing to come alongside and help her like Christ helped others. But far too often when someone has a problem that takes more than one prayer or word of advice to fix, the average church person will apply the logic that God cannot fail so you must be doing something wrong otherwise God would have fixed it for you. And what's truly sad is most church people don't see the problem with this scenario because we've been sold a gospel of right doctrine instead of Christlike living.

Rant over, and JF if you're reading this and I got you wrong feel free to correct me. But now I've been reminded why I don't venture outside of the singles forum often.

jkalyna · Dec 16, 2015

Ugly said:

Did it ever occur to you that maybe she learned to adopt that attitude over time, as opposed to the much less likely idea that she started out with that attitude?
I've chat with her on and off since she joined the site and I can say nothing about how she was in the past reflected the attitude she shows now. I know you've been a me ever a whole thee days, so you clearly have the history and knowledge to question her motives and reasons.

And be I have seen her reach out to a number of people and offer help. So that cheap little attempt to take a jab at her failed, largely due to your having zero previous knowledge of her beyond three days.

I actually see see it on this site all the time. And I've been a member more than 3 days. People come here seeking answers, seeking help and guidance and a number of people swarm them and tear them down.

You are displaying the very essence of what she's getting at. You're getting huffy and defensive. Making attempts to put her down all while pretending that you have a clue. Not for one second stopping and considering if there could be any truth to it. To humility. To reflection. No attempt to show love. Just anger and attacks.

Have you you ever had a point in your life where you felt frustrated or fed up with Jesus? Where you blew up on him? Do you see him responding with the same answer as you just gave? Or are you able to thank God that He was patient and loving and forgiving of your tantrum?

Since ive seen JF more than 3 days, and had number of chances to talk with her in forums and in private I can say she has been a good and decent woman who has sought truth as she tried to follow God passionately. She wanted to learn His word. She wanted to grow out of her past.
I for one enjoy when she's around because watching how much effort she puts into learning often makes me feel convicted about my own lack of effort. Funny how her walk with God convicts me of my own, lazy, walk with God when she's around, yet so many Christians who Pride themselves on their high spirituality are so quick to condemn her rather than encourage her to continue striving to know God. Even those who just joined the site.

Hope all is getting well with you. God be with you and May he bless you, spirit soul and body and mind

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