Mother of Harlots

[InSpiritInTruth]

Notice “it” the lie, or lies working in a host (many deceivers) would wax exceedingly great in the world, “it” the lie would also cast down the truth to the ground, and also notice “it” cast some of the host and stars to the ground. (symbolizing angels)

This will also help us make the connection to the tail of the red Dragon in Revelation 12:3-4 “And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.[SUP]4 [/SUP]And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

The tail symbolizes the false prophet spirit (spirit of anti-christ) that was prophesied to come and work in many deceivers as written ( 1 John 2:18, 2 John 1:7). This verse here confirms the sign of the tail being the false prophet spirit in Isaiah 9:15 “The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.”

Also we know no single flesh and blood man is physically able to cast the host and stars (angels) of heaven to the ground, but the Devil by the spirit of the lie can, and did by way of deception. Revelation 12:9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Just as “he” or “it” in the little horn that speaks, or antichrist spirit would also deceive the whole world and cast the truth to the ground as we saw in Daniel 8:11.
One might ask why the anti christ spirit is shown as a littlehorn. Horns in scripture often signify a show of strength like in a Prince or King, but they are also shown to signify a voice given by the spirit who controls “it”, be “it” of the Truth, or of the lie.

Notice here the horn has a voice in Daniel 7:11 “I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.” This sign of the horn being given a voice is also shown in the horn of Israel being given an opening of the mouth, or a voice in Ezekiel 29:21

The horns in scripture are also symbolized as trumpets, like in the story of the fall of Jericho you had 7 priests with 7 ram’s horns, and in the book of Revelation we see 7 angels with 7 trumpets. We also see the mention of the voices like the trumpet (horns) in scripture. Isaiah 58:1, Revelation 1:10, Revelation 4:1, Revelation 8:13.

I also believe the 7 voices like trumpets are symbolized on the Lamb of God with 7 horns in Revelation 5:6 “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”

The eyes represent how one sees, perceives, understands, and also how one interprets scripture as God’s Spirit gives us all these gifts, which all were prophesied to be in Jesus Christ as well. (Isaiah 11:2)
But the littlehorn also had eyes, but sees as a man sees (being carnally minded) but does not see as God sees (or spiritually minded). Notice here God is asked in Job 10:4 “Hast thou eyes of flesh? or seest thou as man seeth? And of course God does not see things as a man sees them.

But the spirit of this world causes men to see with eyes of flesh=judges by outward appearance, and is also carnally minded, only knowing what it knows naturally as a natural brute beast. Notice in Daniel 7:8….. behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.”

So basically those who were given over to the spirit of this world would see with the eyes of flesh, having the vail of the flesh covering their minds, or be carnally minded not believing in, perceiving, or understanding the spiritual things of God (1 Corinthians 2:14).

And those who are of their father the devil, and of his spirit, also being of the world would also speak great swelling words against the knowledge of God. These would also be opposed to the Truth, as they would also boast in their own carnal knowledge and understanding much like many false teachers, false religions, false beliefs even in man’s science (falsely so-called) that is being pushed today.

But all these would really be speaking lies dressed up like the truth, or speak as a dragon even though they may look like a lamb outwardly by appearance as shown in Revelation 13:11.
So we by our Father are given a mouth, or voice (horn) and wisdom (eyes to see and understand by the Holy Spirit) Jesus said inLuke 21:15 “For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.” Just as Jesus said we would speak with “new tongues” in Mark 16:17

But the father of this world would also give his disciples a tongue and mouth full of lies and deceit by his lying spirit working in all them, and by also having their tongues set on fire of hell by the same spirit of the little horn which as we saw earlier in Daniel was also forecast to boast great things.

Now notice what James says here in James 3:4-8 “Behold also the ships, which though theybe so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But the tongue can no man tame;it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.”

So just as by One Spirit we who are in One Body of Christ speak His words by the Spirit of Truth, so too are those who are of the spirit of this world enjoined together into one body of the Beast and speak lies by the spirit of their father the Devil.

Notice how the power is in the tongue…. Proverbs 18:21 “Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.”

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I already went over this before in post #36 but here ya go again for those hardheaded folk...

Here are all the verses that mention antichrist....

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The antichrist spirit is a single lying spirit that works in many deceivers. To say antichrist is a flesh and blood man yet to come in the future is false doctrine, and is not of the Truth.

If your doctrine is not in line with what the words of God say is true then your not building your doctrine on the Rock, but on the shifty sands of mans own wicked imagination.

That's right, the words of God confirm themselves in many different places, but sadly many people run to false teachers and carnally minded men for understanding, and do not seek the understanding that only comes from God by His Spirit of Truth by faith. But this deception and falling away was also foretold of in the scriptures, so it is of no surprise for those who understand.

But again let's confirm by scripture how antichrist spirit would work in many false prophets.

In Revelation 13:11 we see a beast come up out of the earth that had horns like a lamb, but spake as a Dragon. This image is the false prophet image, which represents the spirit of antichrist, or false prophet spirit which many have been deceived to believe to be a single man figure yet to come. But all the scriptures concerning the word antichrist speak of a single spirit working in many deceivers. In verse 13 and 14 we are told this beast does great wonders and miracles in the sight of men.

So let’s see if Jesus and the apostles confirm this truth about many deceivers and many false prophets who would rise up in the world, instead of this notion a single man figure called “Antichrist” is yet to come. 2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

Notice also Jesus warned of many false prophets who would look like a lamb also show great signs and wonders, matching the description and wording found in Revelation 13.

Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

Matthew 24:11 “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”

Matthew 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”

Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

Mark 13:22 “For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.”

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.”

2 Peter 2:1 “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Titus 1:10 “For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:”

So clearly by the testimony of Jesus and the apostles there would rise (like the beast did rise) many false prophets speaking by the spirit of antichrist (false prophet spirit) working in many.

 

[DP]

Dan 2: [SUP]37 [/SUP]Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.


Daniel is told. The head of Gold was the kingdom af Babylon but more specifically, it was the person (king) himself.

Using scripture to interpret scripture. Kingdoms, Beasts, whatever they are, all gentile power. Each power is ruled by one king, that king is the beast.

In the last day, when rome is reformed and made into a power far greater than the rome of Jesus day. A man (king) will rule that kingdom. That kingdom, (the last of the gentiles kingdoms fortold by Daniel) will continue until the lords return.

Afraid not. The devil himself is coming to Jerusalem in the last days to play God. Jesus even showed Satan and his angels being cast down to this earth in the last days per Rev.12:7 forward. That's who the serpent and dragon is in Christ's Book of Revelation. This is why that future time will be a time of tribulation upon this earth that no man has ever seen before, nor will again.

Per Paul in 2 Thess.2:4, that false one is the devil himself, sitting in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem, trying to be God AGAIN! That was the sin of his original rebellion you know (Ezek.28; Isaiah 14). That role as the coming pseudo-Christ in Jerusalem at the end of this world is reserved only... for him, and not any other.

And because it will be the devil himself cast down to the earth in our dimension, that's why Jerusalem will become the symbolic Babylon harlot of Revelation. Jerusalem is where God chose to dwell, which is why Satan wants it for his own. And Satan's servants on earth today are preparing the world for that event, but the majority can't see it.

 

[DP]

That's right, the words of God confirm themselves in many different places, but sadly many people run to false teachers and carnally minded men for understanding, and do not seek the understanding that only comes from God by His Spirit of Truth by faith. But this deception and falling away was also foretold of in the scriptures, so it is of no surprise for those who understand.

You quoting yourself and then answering yourself, is not a healthy sign.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Afraid not. The devil himself is coming to Jerusalem in the last days to play God. Jesus even showed Satan and his angels being cast down to this earth in the last days per Rev.12:7 forward. That's who the serpent and dragon is in Christ's Book of Revelation. This is why that future time will be a time of tribulation upon this earth that no man has ever seen before, nor will again.

More false doctrine, lets prove by scripture when the Prince of this world (The Red Dragon, aka Devil, aka Satan, aka Old Serpent) and his spirit of antichrist was forecast to come, and did come as Daniel, Jesus, and apostles testified.

There seems to be a huge error going around about when Satan, the Prince that was forecast to come. As was also prophesied in Daniel, and when antichrist spirit was to come, and when the abomination that causes desolation (destruction of temple and holy city) was to be fulfilled.

Here is where the Prince was forecast to come in Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

Notice it is the people of the Prince that was prophesied to come that would destroy the temple, not the Prince (Devil) himself physically. Meaning a host was given to the Prince of this world to carry out the destruction by his spirit working in them.

This is the prophecy of the Prince, or Satan coming which was also confirmed by Jesus. Jesus said in Luke 10:18“And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.” Jesus also said the Prince of this world is judged in John 16:11“Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.”

And again in John 14:30“Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.” And so again when is Satan judged, cast out, and when does hecome? John 12:31“Now is thejudgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.”

And when Jesus said now, he meant now! Not some 1,982 years or so later. Alright, we have scriptural proof to confirm this, and Jesus’ own testimony to confirm this, and now the apostles testimony of the coming of antichrist spirit.

1 John 2:18 “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”

1 John 4:3 “And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

2 John 1:7 “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.”

Note, John says nothing about a single man being called “Antichrist”, but rather he tells us antichrist is a spirit which works in many. (many deceivers)

Need more proof? Notice when the 4[SUP]th[/SUP] beast kingdom is in place, and when Satan/ prince of this world/ Devil/ Red dragon is in place, and also cast out.

Revelation 12:3-5 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon,having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”

There it is, already in place ready to devour the child Jesus as soon as it was born. How much clearer can that be?

But wait, there is more proof in Revelation 12:5-9 "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.[SUP]7 [/SUP]And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

Same thing confirmed in Daniel 8:8-12 “Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.[SUP]9 [/SUP]And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.[SUP]11 [/SUP]Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.[SUP]12 [/SUP]And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.”

There you have it folks, these things concerning his coming is confirmed as being fulfilled by both Jesus Christ, the apostles, and scripture.

So is your theology based on Truth,(Words of God) and also in line with scripture? Or is it based on a fanciful imagination of carnally minded men who do not understand the spiritual things of God?

 

[Budman]

You quoting yourself and then answering yourself, is not a healthy sign.

It's plenty weird - isn't it?

 

[KennethC]

Muslims are beheading Muslims as well, Jews are shooting Muslims, Muslims are stabbing Jews, and so-called Christians are blowing Muslims up with air strikes. I would say the US has killed far more Muslims with air strikes than Christians have been beheaded by Muslims recently. People are killing people no matter the faith or lack thereof, violence and blood shed has become the norm in this world; which is also a sign of the end "as it was in the days of Noah."

The RCC has plenty of blood on it's hands as well, but the harlot religious system contains all those who swear falsely by the Lords name. Falsely=Hypocrites who has caused the Holy name of the Lord to be profaned and blasphemed among the nations of the world. When it happens you'll know it, the hatred by way of propaganda against Christians has already begun, even stronger now with the gay marriage agenda being forced on people.

And like I told you before the mark of the beast is an inward mark (sin nature) and spirit working in mankind which causes him to conform the image of his father the devil, being a natural brute beast. Just as God's seal in the forehead is also of His Spirit, which causes us to be transformed into the inward image of His Son.

I can confirm sin as a mark by scripture, but you can't confirm your point by scripture, so who to believe?

Job 7:20
I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?

Job 10:14
If I sin, then thou markest me, and thou wilt not acquit me from mine iniquity.

Why did you bring up all these other examples of people killing other people ???

They carry no relevant information about the situation.

The bible clearly states one of the clear discriptions of the beast system is it will kill Jews and Christians.

Those are mainly it's targets, and gives clearly one of the methods used in this killing; beheading !!!

RCC is guilty of killing others in the past, but so is the Protestants as well. Yet they are not doing it now, and definitely not beheading anybody.

There is only one group at this time that fits every single detail in the bible, Muslim.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

The bible clearly states one of the clear discriptions of the beast system is it will kill Jews and Christians.

Those are mainly it's targets, and gives clearly one of the methods used in this killing; beheading !!!

RCC is guilty of killing others in the past, but so is the Protestants as well. Yet they are not doing it now, and definitely not beheading anybody.

There is only one group at this time that fits every single detail in the bible, Muslim.

The persecution is much broader than just Muslims killing Jews and Christians. Did not the unbelieving Jews also kill the early Christians? Your focus is primarily on the Muslims, and what you see is going on with your eyes in the present. But the message is much broader than just that, and the persecution of God's people goes all the way back to when the wicked Cain killed his righteous brother Abel and received a "mark" because of sin.

What the word of God is showing on a global scale is a persecution of the children of the Spirit by the children of the flesh.

That is why it is important to understand what Paul was showing in the 2 mothers (2 Jerusalem's) and their children, which I commented on in my OP.
Galatians 4:29"But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."

Cain was also of the flesh, Abel was of the Spirit. Just as Ishmael was of the flesh, and Isaac was of the Spirit. Whosoever is born of the flesh is of the earthly Jerusalem (bondwoman) in a spiritual sense. That is the mystery many people miss in the allegory Paul was speaking of in the 2 sons, and 2 Covenants. The first of the flesh, the other of the Spirit. They who are of the bond woman are of the world, being children of the flesh and in bondage to sin.


So whosoever is of the world and of the flesh, these also will persecute the children of God, that is the saints who are born of the Spirit from above, the heavenly Jerusalem, the free woman and mother of the children of promise.

 

[mpaper345]

The beast kingdom in Revelation is a kingdom to come,for it includes all nations together believing they can solve their problems,by the solution of the man of sin,who is the beast.God said He is going to gather all nations together to battle against Jerusalem.

The seven years tribulation period will be a time that God brings Israel to the truth,and causes all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,and the world will attack Israel that turned to Jesus.

It is a kingdom that is based on the occult,and nature worship,and witchcraft,that does not acknowledge a personal God,but an impersonal God,they call the God of forces,and this is because of the culprit,evolution,which they interpreted the Bible according to evolution,and not a personal God,and all religions will think differently about their religions that will cause them to come together,for they will stop arguing over my God said this,so you better listen.

It is referred to as Babylon,because Babylon is the kingdom of man,and the beast kingdom is the kingdom of man in it's entirety.It is Babylon in spirit.In Daniel 7,Daniel had a vision of 4 beasts,Babylon,Medo-Persia,Greece,and the Roman Empire,which the first 3 beasts will never have dominion again,but the Roman Empire will not be put down until Jesus comes back,which means they will come together,and be the power base of the man of sin.So Babylon will never rise to have dominion again,so the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit.

Daniel said all 4 beasts are different than each other,which means they all operate by one of the 4 ways of people,as their chief mode of operation.Although all 4 kingdoms operated by all 4 ways,one of those ways was their chief mode of operation.

Babylon operated by human religion as their chief mode of operation.Medo-Persia by physical cruelty.Greece by human wisdom.The Roman Empire by pushing for territory,world domination.

In the beast kingdom all 4 ways of people are in the chief mode of operation.Since Babylon is known for human religion,the occult,witchcraft,astrology,and such,it would appear that it would of stemmed from them,but the beast kingdom is Babylon in spirit.She is the mother of harlots,and abominations of the earth,because she is the origin of all the false religions of the world,and in the beast kingdom,whoever is the spiritual leader,and the headquarters,will represent all the false religions of the world.

The woman is the unified religious system that will operate during the first three and one half years,of the tribulation,which the Bible says the 10 horns will hate her,and get rid of her,and that is because the man of sin will exalt himself above all that is called God,or is worshipped,by claiming to have harnessed the power of nature,which the second beast does wonders to convince the world that the claim is true,for he received power from the first beast to do those wonders.

They will have no need for the unified religious system because the man of sin will say he is above all that,and they should look to him for the solution to have peace on earth,and to help people,and there is no personal God to help them.

They will get rid of the woman,the whore.

The beast kingdom is a kingdom to come,and will consist of all the people that do not love God,and entails all nations governments in league,except for Israel who has turned to the truth,and when they take the mark,God will put them down.God will not give up on the world,until they give up on Him.

It is referred to as Babylon,because Babylon is represented as the kingdom of man.

The woman is the unified religious system that they will get rid of when they except the man of sin.

The culprit is evolution,which will cause the religions to think differently of their religions,and say,we were primitive in our understanding of spirituality,but modern science has proven that we evolved,and not created by a God,which will stop them fighting with each other,and try to find spiritual enlightenment to evolve spiritually,which the attitude is to each his own,whatever best suits you on your path to spiritual enlightenment.

No more fighting over what their God said,and you should listen to that,but to each his own,and they will have common ground,and be compatible,as one unified religious system.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

This opened up a can of whoop butt,which God warns us in the latter times,which is the last days of the last days,that some shall depart from the truth of the Bible,and go by an interpretation that is based on evolution,and exalts people,and diminishes God,and acknowledges the God of forces,which they believe the divinity is in people,and they want to be able to obtain that power,and have power over the elements.

This interpretation of the Bible accepts all religions,and will cause the religions to think differently about their religions,that will cause them to come together.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

People will not want to heed to the truth of the Bible,but they will want to hear the Bible according to that false interpretation,which they want to hear the Bible according to their own lusts,which that false interpretation exalts people,to have personal power.

The secular world can never have enough money,which America is an example,that no matter how much money they have it is not enough.They want money without limit,and that is all in an attempt to exalt themself,which God told us the last generation will devour the poor from off the earth,and the needy among men.

This same thing is occurring in the spiritual world,of the occult,and people that believe in witchcraft,wanting personal power,and such,because of evolution.There is no God to fear,and no God to offend,for their arrogance,which caused a restraint on them years ago from being too arrogant.Their self exalting ways are skyrocketing,where they will not be able to have enough,but have to have power over the elements in the highest order.

Evolution seems to be the biggest culprit in why the beast kingdom comes about,and add to that,God said that the last generation will be the most arrogant,and self exalting generation in the history of mankind,and they will eat up that false interpretation of the Bible,that exalts people,and diminishes God,that accepts all religions as valid for spiritual truth,to each his own,that will cause them to come together,but it is because God is going to allow the world 7 years to have their way and rebel against Him,so He can put them down,so the devil is taking advantage of that and causing them to go towards the beast kingdom,a kingdom based on the occult,witchcraft,and such things,that believes in no personal God,but an impersonal God,the God of forces.

 

[DP]

More false doctrine, lets prove by scripture when the Prince of this world (The Red Dragon, aka Devil, aka Satan, aka Old Serpent) and his spirit of antichrist was forecast to come, and did come as Daniel, Jesus, and apostles testified.

You're not even on the same page. I wasn't talking about when the "spirit of antichrist" would come, but the devil himself de facto, cast down to this earth like the Rev.12:7 forward Scripture declares. The "spirit of antichrist" and the "many antichrists" have long since already been at work according to John and Paul ("mystery of iniquity", same subject).

There seems to be a huge error going around about when Satan, the Prince that was forecast to come. As was also prophesied in Daniel, and when antichrist spirit was to come, and when the abomination that causes desolation (destruction of temple and holy city) was to be fulfilled.

Here is where the Prince was forecast to come in Daniel 9:26 “And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.”

The one who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple is credited by Titus of the Romans, in 70 A.D. That's who the "people" of that prince (Satan) represents. After that colon ) is about the end of days, the tribulation.

Here's the next verse you LEFT OUT, which is a continuation about that "prince" of v.26:

Dan 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
KJV

Got to pick up the subject of the prince in previous verse because of this "he shall" here. Thus the "abomination of desolation" subject goes past where you stopped quoting Daniel.

Dan 11:21-22
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
KJV

Dan 11:31-32
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
KJV


Notice that "vile person" comes in peacefully, not destroying like Roman Titus did.

That is the actual event during the tribulation that Jesus was quoting from Daniel about the placing of the "abomination of desolation" in the temple at Jerusalem. It's about an idol placed in the temple and false worship instituted, which is what the desolation idea is about. You can read more about it in Ezekiel 8.

You also, like many, misunderstand what our Lord Jesus showed about Satan being judged in the Book of John:

John 12:31
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
KJV

That was NOT about Satan being cast out of THIS world at the time of Christ's crucifixion. Can't just add the word world to the end of that "cast out" phrase, because it's not there. But that's what the majority of preachers do. Where Scripture shows Satan being cast out to in the last days is to this earth where we are... which will cause the great tribulation, and THAT is what brings God's Judgment upon this world...

Rev 12:7-11
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
KJV



War in Heaven between Michael and Satan and their angels, Satan and his are cast down to this earth 'out of Heaven', the tribulation begins as he goes to persecute God's people on earth, which will bring God's Judgment upon the earth on the "day of the Lord" to end that tribulation. Everything in Scripture weaves together to make the whole Loaf of Bread once you properly understand what is actually written.

That is what our Lord Jesus was talking about in the Book of John, especially when He said "...the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me" (John 14:30). Satan's judgment and sentencing was sealed by Christ's crucifixion, as John told us that's why our Lord Jesus was ordained to come, to defeat death and the devil for us (1 John 3; Heb.2:14).

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

You're not even on the same page. I wasn't talking about when the "spirit of antichrist" would come, but the devil himself de facto, cast down to this earth like the Rev.12:7 forward Scripture declares. The "spirit of antichrist" and the "many antichrists" have long since already been at work according to John and Paul ("mystery of iniquity", same subject).



The one who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple is credited by Titus of the Romans, in 70 A.D. That's who the "people" of that prince (Satan) represents. After that colon ) is about the end of days, the tribulation.

Here's the next verse you LEFT OUT, which is a continuation about that "prince" of v.26:

Dan 9:27
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
KJV

Got to pick up the subject of the prince in previous verse because of this "he shall" here. Thus the "abomination of desolation" subject goes past where you stopped quoting Daniel.

Dan 11:21-22
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
KJV

Dan 11:31-32
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
KJV


Notice that "vile person" comes in peacefully, not destroying like Roman Titus did.

That is the actual event during the tribulation that Jesus was quoting from Daniel about the placing of the "abomination of desolation" in the temple at Jerusalem. It's about an idol placed in the temple and false worship instituted, which is what the desolation idea is about. You can read more about it in Ezekiel 8.

You also, like many, misunderstand what our Lord Jesus showed about Satan being judged in the Book of John:

John 12:31
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
KJV

That was NOT about Satan being cast out of THIS world at the time of Christ's crucifixion. Can't just add the word world to the end of that "cast out" phrase, because it's not there. But that's what the majority of preachers do. Where Scripture shows Satan being cast out to in the last days is to this earth where we are... which will cause the great tribulation, and THAT is what brings God's Judgment upon this world...

Rev 12:7-11
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
KJV



War in Heaven between Michael and Satan and their angels, Satan and his are cast down to this earth 'out of Heaven', the tribulation begins as he goes to persecute God's people on earth, which will bring God's Judgment upon the earth on the "day of the Lord" to end that tribulation. Everything in Scripture weaves together to make the whole Loaf of Bread once you properly understand what is actually written.

That is what our Lord Jesus was talking about in the Book of John, especially when He said "...the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me" (John 14:30). Satan's judgment and sentencing was sealed by Christ's crucifixion, as John told us that's why our Lord Jesus was ordained to come, to defeat death and the devil for us (1 John 3; Heb.2:14).

I showed in post #105 by scripture when the Devil (Prince that was forecast to come) was cast out of heaven down to the earth. The spirit of antichrist (spirit of a lie) came down with the Dragon (tail of dragon) after Jesus was resurrected and ascended, which I also showed by scripture. The Devil is the father of the lie, being the spirit of the lie, called "it" and antichrist spirit, as I showed by scripture.

Also, I already told you the Prince that made the Covenant in Daniel 9:27 is Messiah the Prince, not the Prince of this world.

Because of the overspreading of abominations Jesus pronounced Jerusalem desolate....

Matthew 23:37-38O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."

The tribulation began for the Jews after the abomination of desolation and destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad., as Jesus said these would be the days of vengeance and wrath upon "this people" meaning the Jews. This is also known as the time of Jacobs trouble which would run all the way to the fullness of the Gentiles. But there does remain a "great tribulation" and wrath to come upon the entire world, or nations.

These 2 separate tribulation periods are confirmed here...Romans 2:9 "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;"

 

[DP]

I showed in post #105 by scripture when the Devil (Prince that was forecast to come) was cast out of heaven down to the earth. The spirit of antichrist (spirit of a lie) came down with the Dragon (tail of dragon) after Jesus was resurrected and ascended, which I also showed by scripture. The Devil is the father of the lie, being the spirit of the lie, called "it" and antichrist spirit, as I showed by scripture.

Also, I already told you the Prince that made the Covenant in Daniel 9:27 is Messiah the Prince, not the Prince of this world.

Because of the overspreading of abominations Jesus pronounced Jerusalem desolate....

Matthew 23:37-38O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."

The tribulation began for the Jews after the abomination of desolation and destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad., as Jesus said these would be the days of vengeance and wrath upon "this people" meaning the Jews. This is also known as the time of Jacobs trouble which would run all the way to the fullness of the Gentiles. But there does remain a "great tribulation" and wrath to come upon the entire world, or nations.

These 2 separate tribulation periods are confirmed here...Romans 2:9 "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;"

Dan.9:27 has NOTHING to do with our Lord Jesus Christ. It's about Satan, that same prince idea in the Dan.9:26 verse that was behind the Roman general Titus destroying Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and the same one that will be that "vile person" in Dan.11.

Jesus made NO covenant for a period of 7 years with it then being BROKEN in the middle of that 7 years period, which is about the symbolic "one week" there in Dan.9:27. That one making the covenant is about the "vile person" of Dan.11 who will cause the placing of the abomination idol in Jerusalem for the end. In Dan.11 it is called a "league" in the KJV.

You're just listening to and heeding men's doctrines of Preterism, and not God's Word as written.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Dan.9:27 has NOTHING to do with our Lord Jesus Christ. It's about Satan, that same prince idea in the Dan.9:26 verse that was behind the Roman general Titus destroying Jerusalem in 70 A.D., and the same one that will be that "vile person" in Dan.11.

Jesus made NO covenant for a period of 7 years with it then being BROKEN in the middle of that 7 years period, which is about the symbolic "one week" there in Dan.9:27. That one making the covenant is about the "vile person" of Dan.11 who will cause the placing of the abomination idol in Jerusalem for the end. In Dan.11 it is called a "league" in the KJV.

You're just listening to and heeding men's doctrines of Preterism, and not God's Word as written.

I disagree with you on Dan 9:27 as Satan was not crucified in the middle of the week, and Satan confirmed no Covenant in that week. But believe what you will.

I already covered this in Post #35 here's a refresher....

And no Jesus did not make a temporary Covenant, that is your own twist on scripture. But Jesus did confirm (H1396) bring into force or strengthen the New Covenant with many in the final week of that prophecy.

To confirm a Covenant means to strengthen it (of force) which happened in the 70th week as it is written.... Hebrews 9:17 "For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth."

The word confirm (H1396) in Daniel 9:27 is also shown as strengthen

The KJV translates Strongs H1396 in the following manner: prevail (14x), strengthen (3x), great (2x), confirm (1x), exceeded (1x), mighty (1x), put (1x), stronger (1x), valiant (1x).

Bible Usage...
to prevail, have strength, be strong, be powerful, be mighty, be great

1. 
   (Qal)
   1. to be strong, mighty
   2. to prevail
2. (Piel) to make strong, strengthen

And he shall confirm [SUP]H1396[/SUP] the covenant [SUP]H1285[/SUP] with many [SUP]H7227[/SUP] for one [SUP]H259[/SUP] week: [SUP]H7620[/SUP] and in the midst [SUP]H2677[/SUP] of the week [SUP]H7620[/SUP] he shall cause the sacrifice [SUP]H2077[/SUP] and the oblation [SUP]H4503[/SUP] to cease, [SUP]H7673[/SUP] and for the overspreading [SUP]H3671[/SUP] of abominations [SUP]H8251[/SUP] he shall make it desolate, [SUP]H8074[/SUP] even until the consummation, [SUP]H3617[/SUP] and that determined [SUP]H2782[/SUP] shall be poured [SUP]H5413[/SUP] upon the desolate. [SUP]H8074

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And by the way, I don't follow the doctrines of men, as I did not receive my understanding in the words of God by any man. Just to make that clear.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Let me add this concerning the Prince (Messiah) in Daniel 9:27 who caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease.


It is written.....

Psalm 40:6 “Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.”
Psalm 51:16 “For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.”

Isaiah 1:11 “To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.”
Hosea 6:6 “For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.”

Mark 12:33 “And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

Notice what Jesus came to do....

Hebrews 10:1-10 “For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.[SUP]2 [/SUP]For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[SUP]
3 [/SUP]But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.[SUP]4 [/SUP]For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.[SUP]5 [/SUP]Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
[SUP]
7 [/SUP]Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.[SUP]8 [/SUP]Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.[SUP]10 [/SUP]By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

This is exactly what Messiah the Prince did in the last week of Daniels 70 week prophecy. Jesus was crucified in the middle of the last week, causing the need for animal sacrifice and offerings to cease, taking away the carnal ordinances of the first Covenant, and establishing the New Covenant. Jesus also declared to Jerusalem before he was crucified their house was left to them desolate.

Daniel 9:27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Let me add this concerning the Prince (Messiah) in Daniel 9:27 who caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease.

Hello PlainTruth,

First of all, that KJV does not do the scripture justice. Here is what Daniel 9:27 really says, which is also confirmed by Jesus in Mt.24:15:

"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Now regarding the "Prince," grammatically speaking, it must be the one who was previously spoken of, which would be "the ruler" of the people who come and destroy the sanctuary mentioned in Dan.9:26. This ruler performs three things in the verse:

1.) Makes a covenant with many for one seven

2.) In the middle of the seven he causes the sacrifice and offering to cease

3.) In the middle of the seven he sets up the abomination that causes desolation

Suffice to say, if you have Jesus as being that ruler/prince in the verse, then Jesus would be performing those three things listed above. The problem with this is interpretation is that, Jesus would also have to be the One who sets up the abomination in the holy place within the temple, which immediately disqualifies him as being the prince/ruler that is being spoken of.

The word "Bdelugma" translated "abomination" is defined as an abominable thing, an accursed thing. Properly, what emits a foul odor and hence is disgustingly abhorrent before God. That being the case, Jesus cannot be the ruler/prince who sets up the abomination and that because he would be blaspheming himself as well as God the Father by doing so.

That ruler/prince is that antichrist who is to come and he is the one who will make a seven year covenant with many, will cause the sacrifice and offerings to cease and will also be the one who will set up that abomination in the holy place within the temple.

The end that is decreed that will be poured out on him, is synonymous with the reference to the antichrist/beast who is going to his destruction, which is in reference to when Christ returns to the earth to end the age and the beast along with the false prophet are both thrown alive into the lake of fire.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

The KJV may not do your theology justice, but as I've shown by scripture Messiah the Prince did all those things listed in Daniel 9:27. No need to butcher the wording in the text in order to make your theology fit.

 

[Ahwatukee]

The KJV may not do your theology justice, but as I've shown by scripture Messiah the Prince did all those things listed in Daniel 9:27. No need to butcher the wording in the text in order to make your theology fit.

Really? I just demonstrated to you that Jesus could not be the One who is setting up the abomination and so you are simply ignoring the truth. Since there is only one person mentioned in the verse "the ruler", you would be inferring that Jesus is also the one setting up the abomination, which as scripture has shown, cannot be true. Regarding Dan.9:27, Jesus said the following:

"So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."

The verse above would also demonstrate that Jesus is not the one who is setting up the abomination. The only reason that you and others interpret Jesus as the one in the verse, is to support the false teaching that this event has already taken place, which it hasn't.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Here we go again, and round, and round, and round we go! LOL

What is written......Daniel 9:27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Because of the overspreading of abominations Jesus pronounced Jerusalem desolate....

Matthew 23:37-38O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."

Believe it, or not.

 

[DP]

I disagree with you on Dan 9:27 as Satan was not crucified in the middle of the week, and Satan confirmed no Covenant in that week. But believe what you will.

I already covered this in Post #35 here's a refresher....

And no Jesus did not make a temporary Covenant, that is your own twist on scripture. But Jesus did confirm (H1396) bring into force or strengthen the New Covenant with many in the final week of that prophecy.

To confirm a Covenant means to strengthen it (of force) which happened in the 70th week as it is written.... Hebrews 9:17 "For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth."

The word confirm (H1396) in Daniel 9:27 is also shown as strengthen

The KJV translates Strongs H1396 in the following manner: prevail (14x), strengthen (3x), great (2x), confirm (1x), exceeded (1x), mighty (1x), put (1x), stronger (1x), valiant (1x).

Bible Usage...
to prevail, have strength, be strong, be powerful, be mighty, be great

1. 
   (Qal)
   1. to be strong, mighty
   2. to prevail
2. (Piel) to make strong, strengthen

And he shall confirm [SUP]H1396[/SUP] the covenant [SUP]H1285[/SUP] with many [SUP]H7227[/SUP] for one [SUP]H259[/SUP] week: [SUP]H7620[/SUP] and in the midst [SUP]H2677[/SUP] of the week [SUP]H7620[/SUP] he shall cause the sacrifice [SUP]H2077[/SUP] and the oblation [SUP]H4503[/SUP] to cease, [SUP]H7673[/SUP] and for the overspreading [SUP]H3671[/SUP] of abominations [SUP]H8251[/SUP] he shall make it desolate, [SUP]H8074[/SUP] even until the consummation, [SUP]H3617[/SUP] and that determined [SUP]H2782[/SUP] shall be poured [SUP]H5413[/SUP] upon the desolate. [SUP]H8074

[/SUP]

And by the way, I don't follow the doctrines of men, as I did not receive my understanding in the words of God by any man. Just to make that clear.

All that is for nought, because of only what you said here:

"And no Jesus did not make a temporary Covenant, that is your own twist on scripture. But Jesus did confirm (H1396) bring into force or strengthen the New Covenant with many in the final week of that prophecy."

Jesus definitely did NOT... strengthen ANY COVENANT, especially NOT the New Covenant in Jerusalem AND THEN BREAK IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ONE WEEK!

The New Covenant is an everlasting Covenant between Him and the believer on Him, and that can NEVER be broken, period!

That one of Dan.9:27 also ends the sacrifices in Jerusalem and INSTEAD PLACES THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION in Jerusalem, which is about IDOL WORSHIP! You are CRAZY to apply that to our Lord Jesus at ANY TIME!

Dan 11:21-24
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
KJV

Dan 11:30-32
30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
KJV



So you can take your false prophet teaching of unbelieving Jews with applying those Dan.9:27 events to Jesus of Nazareth and stuff it!

 

[DP]

Here we go again, and round, and round, and round we go! LOL

What is written......Daniel 9:27 “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Because of the overspreading of abominations Jesus pronounced Jerusalem desolate....

Matthew 23:37-38O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
[SUP]38 [/SUP]Behold, your house is left unto you desolate."

Believe it, or not.

Matt 24:15
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
KJV

Mark 13:14
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
KJV

The "abomination of desolation" prophecy from the Book of Daniel is about the placing of an idol in temple at Jerusalem in false worship.

Dan.11:31 shows that is what the Dan.9:27 verse is about, i.e., the placing of the abomination idol that causes the temple to be spiritually desolate. Antiochus IV served as the main blueprint for that event to come at the end of this world.

Your teaching is from unbelieving Jews that deny the abomination of desolation being about the placing of an idol in Jerusalem in false worship.