I told you yesterday. Stick to the basics of grace and calling people heretics, that is your comfort zone, you struggle badly beyond that
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I told you yesterday. Stick to the basics of grace and calling people heretics, that is your comfort zone, you struggle badly beyond that
My level. Your level is thinking you know a lot more than you do, and trying to impress that on others. And making silly comments about people being legalistic when they are not
So you think you are better than me do you?
For all the grace talk you are showing phariseeical traits
Ok..you guys...go get a room!!...
Can you please respond to whether the man in 1cor5 should be sin conscious and to what degree?
Only Paul obviously believed all sin should not be treated the same didn't he.
I mean this sincerely. To have a watertight view this subject, you really do need a view on such a case as mentioned in 1cor5. It would be naïve to consider that kind of sin in the same light as much other you refer to. I repeat, Paul certainly saw a difference didn't he
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Ok..you guys...go get a room!!...
Oh I am done, I said last night I was finished, there is no need to go on, I agreed to disagree.
I just wanted to let him know. Saying a person has no clue is a reportable offence (I know. I mistakingly did that once when I first came CC to a young lady, and had to be chastened by the mods.. It is not right to tell a person that have no clue, even if you disagree.
But let him keep talking, all he is doing is proving he is the one who demands to have theh last word. Something he laid in my lap last night..
I will keep comming in this room to see if there is anything worth talking about. Other than that. I think I have said my peace.
Can you show me the verse in the bible that states Paul was out killing Christians. I know he persecuted them and had them thrown in prison, but where does it actually state he personally was out killing them. Only it is good to stick to biblical facts
Thank you
I doubt it is getting clearer for you, remember what I told you!
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Titus 3:9 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
You are not answering my question are you as to in what respect the man who slept with his fathers wifeshould be sin sin conscious. This is becoming a red flag now. If you have no answer you can not said to have a full and rounded opinion on this matter can you, something is missing
You cannot address what happens when wilfull deliberate sin is made on such a scale? Paul viewed such sin as much different to other sin didn't he. You need a full understanding of this subject, anything else is dangerous
This is what I answered about the 1 Cor 5 guy..
and..Oh..the man is 1 Cor5 was not walking in grace...he was about to have his flesh be destroyed by satan.....but thank God he "repented" and got restored to the fellowship....
I have said about 15 times now that all sin is bad and destructive and will destroy you and those around you.
This is the last I will do to address this.
You do not have to like my answer! I am not getting into a contention with you..... ask the Lord about things if they bother you.
Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
and..Oh..the man is 1 Cor5 was not walking in grace...he was about to have his flesh be destroyed by satan.....but thank God he "repented" and got restored to the fellowship....
I have said about 15 times now that all sin is bad and destructive and will destroy you and those around you.
This is the last I will do to address this.
You do not have to like my answer! I am not getting into a contention with you..... ask the Lord about things if they bother you.
Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
The reply I would have to give is. If the man could sin without conscience he wasn't saved in the first place. For he has stepped completely outside of following after the holy Spirit and committed a sin that Paul decided must bring expulsion from the church(for a time)This is what I answered about the 1 Cor 5 guy..
and..Oh..the man is 1 Cor5 was not walking in grace...he was about to have his flesh be destroyed by satan.....but thank God he "repented" and got restored to the fellowship....
I have said about 15 times now that all sin is bad and destructive and will destroy you and those around you.
This is the last I will do to address this.
You do not have to like my answer! I am not getting into a contention with you..... ask the Lord about things if they bother you.
Romans 14:22 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The faith which you have, have as your own conviction before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves.
And if he had been saved, his conscience would be very badly seered by the sin he was committing. He would have no rest, no peace while he continued in such sin
Well, the man at that time certainly wasn't Christ-conscious as he was called to be.
Honey, you, being simple yourself in your understanding of mildly complicated passages of scripture written by Paul, who speaks for Jesus Christ, are really not in any position to judge naivety.
Sin-conscious is not to do with conscience. The man was a believer who experienced a fall into sin, and was restored after a time of separation from the assembly as discipline.
My dear, yesterday you showed us where your beliefs led, they led to contradiction after contradiction. You did your best to try and reconcile them but in truth it was hopeless.
IM sorry you find it so hard to grasp things that should not be so difficult to understand.
But dont worry, you have time
My dear, before you try and guide others may I suggest you get your own beliefs straightened out so they align with each other
I admit to being a simple minded person, but better that and then let the holy spirit guide you than the alternative
Proverbs 26:12
You know I wrote a short book on Paul's message of grace. Not being a proud person I sent it to two people in the states to read and check it was totally I line with scripture. Both men had degree in religion. One had been in pastoral work for over twenty years, and the other studied greatly.
Now I wouldn't be so bold as to suggest either of them understood spiritual truth as well as you do, but they both agreed the book was totally I line with scripture and urged publication if possible. Its with literary agents now.
But then, what would men like that know compared to you, eternally grateful and a few others. They don't have a lot of tine to spend on the internet, so they haven't benefitted from the knowledge such as you could give them
They don't know what they are missing out on do they
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Only confused people would see contradiction. However, there is nothing contradictory in my beliefs. I align myself with God's word. It's not hard to do.
I am blessed to be a teacher of the word. God equips those He calls. His word is truth, and by His Spirit, all believers can get it straight. Even you. I will be praying for you thatvthe Lird will take swift action in you to remove your childish objections.