still think 9 11 was a conspiracy?

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Jimbone

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Mitspa said:
Same Jesus that said love your enemy took a whip to folks ... I don't move from the truth because you don't like..the whole 911 thing is a big lie and I have proven it on this thread ..now the idea is to attack the guy you cant defeat in a honest discussion. If you guys think im moved because some of you don't like me..you don't know me.
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Oh no, don't get me wrong I really don't think you care what ANYONE thinks about you and you've done a great job at making that VERY clear. My point was that Jesus said to love even our enemies and the way you are talking to brothers and sisters here simply because they disagree with you I wouldn't speak to my enemy like that. Also I didn't mean it like "I'm not your friend anymore" at all, I have just usually thought you made good cases and agreed with much of what you say, but in this thread you have went strait up venomous and I've lost respect for your opinions very much, like I said you've done a perfect job showing that you don't care what ANYONE thinks, but speaking the way you have to people that love OUR Lord and are His people says a lot about your maturity in Him. Have a great day man and keep representing Jesus the best way you can.

Maybe you should chill and go "talk football" for a while.
 
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You haven't proven anything and you have said to me a number of times you don't have to prove anything....

You are talking out both ends of your mouth, and nobody is attacking you as you claim.

They are responding to your snotty and disrespectful remarks you throw at others first, and your whole context of Jesus using a whip to chase out the money changers from the temple is being badly misused by you to allow you to mistreat others.
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Of course I have and I challenge you or anyone else to give one real example that proves this 911 stuff and defend it ..and be willing to admit when you have been proven wrong...do you have one bit of real evidence ? Do you want to go with the beam thing ? because I have already shown video of the cleanup workers cutting those beams on angles ..just like your picture....you might want to find different evidence to prove your point?
 
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Mitspa said:
Of course I have and I challenge you or anyone else to give one real example that proves this 911 stuff and defend it ..and be willing to admit when you have been proven wrong...do you have one bit of real evidence ? Do you want to go with the beam thing ? because I have already shown video of the cleanup workers cutting those beams on angles ..just like your picture....you might want to find different evidence to prove your point?
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Well I gave you two to debunk and said you only had to debunk 1.... and then I would withdraw from the thread....so....
 
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Oh no, don't get me wrong I really don't think you care what ANYONE thinks about you and you've done a great job at making that VERY clear. My point was that Jesus said to love even our enemies and the way you are talking to brothers and sisters here simply because they disagree with you I wouldn't speak to my enemy like that. Also I didn't mean it like "I'm not your friend anymore" at all, I have just usually thought you made good cases and agreed with much of what you say, but in this thread you have went strait up venomous and I've lost respect for your opinions very much, like I said you've done a perfect job showing that you don't care what ANYONE thinks, but speaking the way you have to people that love OUR Lord and are His people says a lot about your maturity in Him. Have a great day man and keep representing Jesus the best way you can.

Maybe you should chill and go "talk football" for a while.
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I think your wrong ..and your idea about how Jesus wants me to respond on this topic and to each member is just your opinion ... The Lord don't want his people mixed up in these big conspiracy lies..and the issue with most of the folks who are trying to hold on to this nonsense is simple that their pride will not allow them to admit they have been wrong and have been deceived ... You know how God deals with people in pride ? God resist the proud and that's the sometimes harsh rebuke we see coming from Christ ..now whatever you want to think about me is fine ..im ok with you having your opinion but I will retain mine as well :)
 
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Mitspa said:
Of course I have and I challenge you or anyone else to give one real example that proves this 911 stuff and defend it ..and be willing to admit when you have been proven wrong...do you have one bit of real evidence ? Do you want to go with the beam thing ? because I have already shown video of the cleanup workers cutting those beams on angles ..just like your picture....you might want to find different evidence to prove your point?
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Really...........

First of all do not trust Youtube video's, the beams I am speaking of were found that way.

They were not done that way during cleanup, and the picture I showed you previously was taken before cleanup. As you do realize cleanup was not done tell after the searches were ended ???

So you did not disprove anything, you just used a video showing cleanup and used it to apply to all the beams.

The other thing is you have constantly been asked to disprove WTC 7 on how it collapsed, that could not have happened that way from just structure fires !!!

That has been proven by a number of experts as well as history with steal framed buildings, structure fires do not bring buildings straight down on themselves like that !!!
 
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Well I gave you two to debunk and said you only had to debunk 1.... and then I would withdraw from the thread....so....
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What was it? what post was that? I must have missed it?
 
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Mitspa said:
I think your wrong ..and your idea about how Jesus wants me to respond on this topic and to each member is just your opinion ... The Lord don't want his people mixed up in these big conspiracy lies..and the issue with most of the folks who are trying to hold on to this nonsense is simple that their pride will not allow them to admit they have been wrong and have been deceived ... You know how God deals with people in pride ? God resist the proud and that's the sometimes harsh rebuke we see coming from Christ ..now whatever you want to think about me is fine ..im ok with you having your opinion but I will retain mine as well :)
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We are told to test all things !!!......................(1 Thessalonians 5:21)


Word of God tells us to do this and not just take things from other people as truth, so your statement that the Lord doesn't want us to do this is not supported by His word. Which makes it your opinion !!!
 
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Really...........

First of all do not trust Youtube video's, the beams I am speaking of were found that way.

They were not done that way during cleanup, and the picture I showed you previously was taken before cleanup. As you do realize cleanup was not done tell after the searches were ended ???

So you did not disprove anything, you just used a video showing cleanup and used it to apply to all the beams.

The other thing is you have constantly been asked to disprove WTC 7 on how it collapsed, that could not have happened that way from just structure fires !!!

That has been proven by a number of experts as well as history with steal framed buildings, structure fires do not bring buildings straight down on themselves like that !!!
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taken before clean-up? That's impossible and again it sounds like your playing loose with the truth..just like all the folks that promote this conspiracy stuff ... can you present that picture with a date of being before the clean-up? because im almost sure its impossible for that beam to have been seen until large amounts of material had already been moved.
 
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You got it. I'll give you two, you only have to debunk 1. Debunk WTC 7 falling into into its own footprint at free-fall speed, or, debunk how a passport of one of the terrorists could magically survive the plane crash AND magically be found just two blocks away from the site.

Debunk one of those things, please.

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Well the building falling is well studied and document by many experts ...I have already posted on it several times ...but I have not heard the thing about the passport ...but im not sure how it would prove a great government conspiracy? Lets look at building 7 ..and what the experts say happened ... ok?
 
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Bushido8000 said:
You got it. I'll give you two, you only have to debunk 1. Debunk WTC 7 falling into into its own footprint at free-fall speed, or, debunk how a passport of one of the terrorists could magically survive the plane crash AND magically be found just two blocks away from the site.

Debunk one of those things, please.

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Jimbone

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Hey Mitspa,

Hey man I just wanted to say I was sorry. I wasn't really a part of the debate and was just responding to a few comment you made and I just thought were out of line. After reading the last few I think I can understand why you were getting a bit emotional about this particular topic. Not that I still don't feel the same way about the comments I was addressing, and still stand by the points I was making, I kind of just jumped in and threw them at you in the wrong way now that I took a step back and thought about it. I am very susceptible to doing the same thing when I get truly emotional about something, so I understand that and don't think my jumping in like I did served any constructive purpose. I apologize for that man.
 
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Let's sidetrack for a moment, to a different detail of 9/11. It's been said that the flight attendant, Betty Ong, was found dead in a closet at the towers, yet she also was on a hijacked plane at the same time talking on the phone to flight people on the ground? How can that be, IF it's true she was found dead at the towers? Kinda hard to be in two places at the same time, especially if you're dead..lol
 
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Mitspa said:
taken before clean-up? That's impossible and again it sounds like your playing loose with the truth..just like all the folks that promote this conspiracy stuff ... can you present that picture with a date of being before the clean-up? because im almost sure its impossible for that beam to have been seen until large amounts of material had already been moved.
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How is that impossible to have taken a picture before cleanup ???

We have pictures and video from the planes hitting all the way to the clean up and past.

They did searches for a number of days before cleanup was even started, as they couldn't let cleanup crews in there tell the area was looked over so that it was not compromised in the search.

Remember John McLoughlin one of the two port authority cops that was rescued ???

They did not pull him out tell 22 hours after the towers collapsed, and no cleanup was taking place at this time yet. Just search parties !!!
 
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Ok now watch the video and explain how this is not completely reasonable ...

[video=youtube;uFJa9WUy5QI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJa9WUy5QI[/video]
 
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How is that impossible to have taken a picture before cleanup ???

We have pictures and video from the planes hitting all the way to the clean up and past.

They did searches for a number of days before cleanup was even started, as they couldn't let cleanup crews in there tell the area was looked over so that it was not compromised in the search.

Remember John McLoughlin one of the two port authority cops that was rescued ???

They did not pull him out tell 22 hours after the towers collapsed, and no cleanup was taking place at this time yet. Just search parties !!!
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If you know the picture was taken before cleanup ..then you should have some way to prove it right?
 
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