What Happens To The Dead When They Die?

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RememberTheSabbathDay

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Is your loved one looking down on you from heaven? Can you go to the grave and talk to them? Why do people go to the grave to talk to a loved one who they say is in heaven? Why are people afraid of the dead? Can they talk to you?

Do you know?...check this book..its free. Amazing Facts by Doug Batchelor

 
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When the dead die what happens to them?
Why do we need to hear such a topic from an uninspired author?
How about Scripture?

Hebrews 9:27 KJVS
[27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 
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Amen CN lol
 
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how can the dead die? :confused:
 
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crossnote said:
When the dead die what happens to them?
Why do we need to hear such a topic from an uninspired author?
How about Scripture?

Hebrews 9:27 KJVS
[27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
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Your test does not definitively answer the question now does it.
 
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gotime said:
Your test does not definitively answer the question now does it.
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Scripture is inspired. Those who are dead (without Christ) will face the White Throne Judgment and will be judged by their works.

Revelation 20:11-12 KJVS
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

What is indefinitive about it?
 
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crossnote said:
Scripture is inspired. Those who are dead (without Christ) will face the White Throne Judgment and will be judged by their works.

Revelation 20:11-12 KJVS
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

What is indefinitive about it?
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the questions are in the OP. Your reply does not answer them. Yes Judgment comes after death but that does not tell us hte answers to the questions.
 
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gotime said:
the questions are in the OP. Your reply does not answer them. Yes Judgment comes after death but that does not tell us hte answers to the questions.
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It surely told you what happens to them short of making up some imaginary story to tickle peoples ear.
 
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It surely told you what happens to them short of making up some imaginary story to tickle peoples ear.
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First the study the Op gives is a bible study. Second how on earth do you think that? Yes we are judged after we die but when what happens between those times etc. Now I know you will have views and they may well be bible based but my point still stands you did not answer the questions with that one verse. Not saying your wrong or right just saying you have not answered the question.
 
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First the study the Op gives is a bible study. Second how on earth do you think that? Yes we are judged after we die but when what happens between those times etc. Now I know you will have views and they may well be bible based but my point still stands you did not answer the questions with that one verse. Not saying your wrong or right just saying you have not answered the question.
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My point is what does scripture say?, not man.

They definitely aren't talking to us or hear us, as the OP asks.
 
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My point is what does scripture say?, not man.

They definitely aren't talking to us or hear us, as the OP asks.
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Yes I agree I think you will find that the Op Believes the same, and the study will show the same.
 
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Yes I agree I think you will find that the Op Believes the same, and the study will show the same.
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You're familiar with SDA material?
Are you SDA?
 
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RememberTheSabbathDay said:
Is your loved one looking down on you from heaven? Can you go to the grave and talk to them? Why do people go to the grave to talk to a loved one who they say is in heaven? Why are people afraid of the dead? Can they talk to you?

Do you know?...check this book..its free. Amazing Facts by Doug Batchelor
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1. Our loved ones who knew and walked with Jesus Christ are with Him now in spirit, and are not "looking down" on us from heaven. Heaven is not above us. Heaven is a totally other plane of existence. Believers who have died are not interested in us...they are only interested in what's going on where they are.

2. People visit the gravesides of their dead loved ones to assuage their own grief. It is a cultural activity.

3. People often talk to their loved ones simply for a measure of comfort. Any other reason is simply self-delusion.

4. People who are afraid of the dead are simply unknowledgeable.

5. The dead cannot communicate with the living. Those who say they can or they have are deluded by demons.

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I believe that when you die, if you are saved you will find yourself with Christ as he returns.

In other words, that car crash, that heart attack, that your-ticket-is-punched moment is your rapture.
 
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Hebrews 9:27-28 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
[SUP]28 [/SUP] so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.
 
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there sleeping in the grave


14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of
my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead
shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of
the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

11These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend
Lazarus sleepeth;but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

2And many of them that [sleep] in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

12And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up
thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

4His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

5For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing,
neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.


In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
 
Euphemia

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The use of the word, "sleeping" in scripture in reference to physical death is a simplistic term. We look asleep when we die. Our bodies go to the grave, but that is not the real person. The real oerson is contained in his soul and spirit, so that when a body is committed to the ground, the person is long gone. If he is a Christian, he is with Jesus and the throng of millions of other righteous people who have gone before him. If he is an unbeliever, he is waiting in Hades---as the bible calls it---for his final judgment before the Lord.

prove-all said:
there sleeping in the grave


14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of
my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

25Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead
shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of
the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

11These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend
Lazarus sleepeth;but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

2And many of them that [sleep] in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

12And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up
thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.

4His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

5For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing,
neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.


In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
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Euphemia said:
The use of the word, "sleeping" in scripture in reference to physical death is a simplistic term. We look asleep when we die. Our bodies go to the grave, but that is not the real person. The real person is contained in his soul and spirit, so that when a body is committed to the ground, the person is long gone. If he is a Christian, he is with Jesus and the throng of millions of other righteous people who have gone before him. If he is an unbeliever, he is waiting in Hades---as the bible calls it---for his final judgment before the Lord.
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Good, sound, scriptural answer! In the face of all the scriptures that demonstrate the conscious, awareness of the spirit/soul after death, and the fact that Paul makes it very clear regarding the spirit/soul departing at the time of death, you are correct in that, it is the body that is being referred to as being "asleep" and not the spirit/soul.
 
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