Vote on Obsession with confession(1st John 1:9,sin confession)

[seed_time_harvest]

We need to confess our sins continuously and be righteous conscious

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

How many times does a person need to confess to GOD?

Sounds like you are saying a person needs to confess to GOD continuously In order to not feel condemnation.If GOD has forgiven a person then that person does not have to keep asking GOD for forgiveness and continuously asking for forgiveness and If they are asking for forgiveness over and over,then that Is not being conscious of righteousness.

 

[fredoheaven]

How many times does a person need to confess to GOD?

Sounds like you are saying a person needs to confess to GOD continuously In order to not feel condemnation.If GOD has forgiven a person then that person does not have to keep asking GOD for forgiveness and continuously asking for forgiveness and If they are asking for forgiveness over and over,then that Is not being conscious of righteousness.

Yep, I meant here is to confess your sins in order to restore your good fellowship with God not that relationship which already establish since we have been born again.

Thanks,

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

How many times does a person need to confess to GOD?

Sounds like you are saying a person needs to confess to GOD continuously In order to not feel condemnation.If GOD has forgiven a person then that person does not have to keep asking GOD for forgiveness and continuously asking for forgiveness and If they are asking for forgiveness over and over,then that Is not being conscious of righteousness.

You've got it backwards. We acknowledge our sinfulness in order to bask in the spirit of forgiveness and no condemnation. It's the river of life flowing out of the throne.

 

[Grace777x70]

1 John 2:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I am writing to you, little children, because your sins have been forgiven you for His name's sake.

have been forgiven = perfect passive

Perfect Tense

The basic thought of the perfect tense is that the progress of an action has been completed and the results of the action are continuing on, in full effect. In other words, the progress of the action has reached its culmination and the finished results are now in existence. Unlike the English perfect, which indicates a completed past action, the Greek perfect tense indicates the continuation and present state of a completed past action.

passive = mood = action is happening to you....you are not doing it

Without a doubt this verse says that the sins are forgiven from a past action that remains in a continuous state and that was put on them....not something they did


Brethren ...we have a great salvation in our Lord!

Here are some more scriptures on the forgiveness of God thru the precious blood of our Lord!....


Ephesians 1:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

We have redemption = present continuous action...so this means we have present continuous forgiveness of our sins...and look...that hyper-grace stuff shows up again!...it's all according to our loving Father's grace that He has given to us in Christ our Lord.

Colossians 1:13-14 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,
[SUP]14 [/SUP] in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Same thing here too...present continuous action = forgiveness of sins


Redemption!..we have been bought with the precious Blood of Jesus... Let's honor His work!

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Yep, I meant here is to confess your sins in order to restore your good fellowship with God not that relationship which already establish since we have been born again.

Thanks,

Restore?
There Is now no condemnation to those In CHRIST.Be righteous conscious not sin conscious.

I'm talking about your relationship with GOD,But you should reconcile the relationship between you and your brother If you have offended him/her.

If you are reborn then GOD has forgiven you.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

You've got it backwards. We acknowledge our sinfulness in order to bask in the spirit of forgiveness and no condemnation. It's the river of life flowing out of the throne.

If GOD says you are forgiven and you keep asking GOD to forgive you Isn't that person wanting to acknowledge their sin "sin conscious"?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

If GOD says you are forgiven and you keep asking GOD to forgive you Isn't that person wanting to acknowledge their sin "sin conscious"?

That's a good question, and I see your point. I've wrestled with that myself before. At this point, I don't know how to explain it to you except to say that experiencing forgiveness (instead of just thinking about it) is a healing balm.

 

[Grace777x70]

I know that I have struggled with this as well. For me it was part of my religious upbringing and wanting to "get right" because I was told this is the way it is....ask for forgiveness in order to get that forgiveness which in reality is already ours in Christ.

The other part is when you see how horrid it really is when we mess up....sin....transgress.... whatever term you want to use. ...what I see is my unbelief in the goodness and love of my Father and Lord Jesus for me. That is the horrid part because I know that is not Their character..

.I love to kneel quickly and tell my Father how I trust in Him..how what I did was wrong..sometimes I use the word sin..sometimes I don't..I think that is irrelevant...I run to my Father and tell Him how that His Son..my Lord is my life..my righteousness,..Jesus Blood has secured my redemption and forgiveness of sins....I confess what God says about me...I tell Him I love Him and trust in Him...

You know ...He always loves on me and tells me He loves me and that He is my life and strength. Sometimes I have felt a warm liquid like feeling of pure love fall on me..and I just sit there in His presence and weep..I can't move a muscle..He is so mighty in power yet His love is the most overwhelming aspect of His presence.


To me..all sin is relational. All sin is a failure to see the life of Christ in me. I am ignorant of His life in me. To me..most outward sin is just a "fruit" of the real sin.

For example..If I steal something..that is a sin..but the real sin behind that is the failure to recognize my Father will take care of me. I am operating in the flesh.

This truth applies to all areas of our lives. This is something that the Lord is showing me now at this stage in my life with Him.

If GOD says you are forgiven and you keep asking GOD to forgive you Isn't that person wanting to acknowledge their sin "sin conscious"?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

That's a good question, and I see your point. I've wrestled with that myself before. At this point, I don't know how to explain it to you except to say that experiencing forgiveness (instead of just thinking about it) is a healing balm.

I understand but feeling emotionally healed after confessing your sins to GOD continuously,happens once when you come to faith In the finished work of CHRIST,after GOD forgives you,you are forgiven.

After being reborn If a person doesn't renew their mind then they will remain sin conscious instead of righteous conscious and feel emotionally healed after continuously asking forgiveness because that person feels they need to fulfill a spiritual requirement before GOD forgives them.

There Is now no more condemnation to those that are In CHRIST.

Be righteous conscious and here on earth If you/I offend our brother/sister,reconcile that relationship.

GOD forgave us and we should reconcile our relationship with our neighbor.

 

[gotime]

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

The word confess means, to agree with God concerning our sins. Now you tell me is there ever a time that we should disagree with God concerning our sin?

 

[ladylynn]

For He (God) made Him (Jesus Christ) who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (Jesus Christ) 2 Cor.5:21

"Our righteousness IN Christ is the sure foundation on which we can build ALL our expectations to receive God's unmerited favor." (book 'Unmerited Favor')
So if our expectation for receiving ANYTHING from God is on ANYTHING BUT our being IN CHRIST then it is not a sure foundation at all., it will always let us down and leave us lacking because it is from us and not from being IN Christ.

 

[ladylynn]

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

The word confess means, to agree with God concerning our sins. Now you tell me is there ever a time that we should disagree with God concerning our sin?

And now that we are saved and bought with a price and born again and gone from death to life.. should we now AGREE with God about who we are IN Christ?? Should we now confess Jesus and what He did on the cross for us and honer Him with our lives and our confession that we are righteous because of the sacrifice of God's Son Jesus Christ? Wouldn't it honor God's Son more if we lived our lives with the daily knowledge and confession that all we are and all we have is due to the fact that Jesus made for us a sure foundation? That our sins are as far as the east is from the west due to the fact that Jesus finished the work on the cross and even said "IT IS FINISHED" and He put our sins far away from us.

"God is not looking at your nobility, sacrifices or good works to justify you. He is only interested in Jesus' humility at the cross." (Unmerited Favor)

Do our lives magnify Jesus or our own good works? Paul said "I do not frustrate the grace (unmerited favor) of God; for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. ..for nothing.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I understand but feeling emotionally healed after confessing your sins to GOD continuously,happens once when you come to faith In the finished work of CHRIST,after GOD forgives you,you are forgiven.

After being reborn If a person doesn't renew their mind then they will remain sin conscious instead of righteous conscious and feel emotionally healed after continuously asking forgiveness because that person feels they need to fulfill a spiritual requirement before GOD forgives them.

There Is now no more condemnation to those that are In CHRIST.

Be righteous conscious and here on earth If you/I offend our brother/sister,reconcile that relationship.

GOD forgave us and we should reconcile our relationship with our neighbor.

It's not an issue of being emotionally healed, but being spiritually healed. If a person sins after coming to the faith, there is a spiritual problem that needs healing. There is no strength in a past forgiveness to make that happen.

 

[FreeNChrist]

"Satan's great device is to drive earnest souls back to beseeching God for what God says has already been done!" - William R. Newell

 

[Grace777x70]

Romans 10:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Romans 10:2-3 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For not knowing about God's righteousness and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Those who say they are the righteousness of GOD are the ones who have established their own righteousness, not by works of law, but by the mental fiat of identity faith.

We who know we are sinners who are justified by grace through faith have no need to establish our own righteousness because we are resting in Christ's righteousness through faith.

 

[Grace777x70]

okie dokie......

 

[FreeNChrist]

Those who say they are the righteousness of GOD are the ones who have established their own righteousness, not by works of law, but by the mental fiat of identity faith.

We who know we are sinners who are justified by grace through faith have no need to establish our own righteousness because we are resting in Christ's righteousness through faith.

No, those who say they are the righteousness of God are those who know they are Christians and who believe what God says about them and are not persuaded away from His truth by the likes of you.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

No, those who say they are the righteousness of God are those who know they are Christians and who believe what God says about them and are not persuaded away from His truth by the likes of you.

You can't show me anywhere in scripture that says you yourself are the righteousness of GOD.

 

[PeterJens]

"Satan's great device is to drive earnest souls back to beseeching God for what God says has already been done!" - William R. Newell

Confession of sin starts at recognising a problem in ones life that needs dealing with. God has forgiven us and accepted us through Christ, but often we need to change in areas we are not aware of so sin looses its hold.

An example I heard yesterday was an alcoholic who confessed when he had one drink, he felt a massive urge to have another, and just could not stop. The answer for him was total abstinance.

For me I can have one glass and sometimes not even that with no desire for more, so this is not a problem at all, so we carry different behaviour issues and handling tactics.

Dealing with sin can be just as varied and complex, but this is about being real with our struggles and putting our hearts in the right place. Confession is the first step. AAA they start with the phrase, "I am an alcoholic."

It works.