What Happens To The Dead When They Die?

[KennethC]

Nobody is in heaven with Jesus yet !!!

The bible states at the 1st Resurrection the dead in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive will be risen and be together with the Lord in the air.

If the dead are already in heaven then there is no need for them to be risen at the 1st Resurrection !!!

 

[skylove7]

It surely told you what happens to them short of making up some imaginary story to tickle peoples ear.

True Crossnote
I have learned that the enemy can try to deceive the mind.
Best to follow truths of scripture
Scripture never fails!

 

[prove-all]

"and man became a living soul"

-Man does not have a inmortal soul—man IS a “soul”!

The original Hebrew word for “soul” is nephesh. Bagster’s Analytical Hebrew and
Chaldee Lexicon defines it as “breath,” and “anything that breathes, an animal.”

It can also refer to a “person,” or even “one dead, a dead body.”
In Genesis 1:21, 24; 2:19; 9:10, 12, 15-16 and Leviticus 11:46,
the same word nephesh is translated “creature” when referring to animals.

 

[mpaper345]

The Bible says that if you are with Jesus,then to die is to be with Christ,like Jesus told the thief on the cross,today you will be with Me in paradise.

When a saint dies they are with Christ,but not in the New Jerusalem.

The only thing a saint will keep is the soul,for all spirits go back to God,no matter how the person acted on earth,so there are no spirits of humans roaming around the earth,whether with God,or not.The saints will put off the flesh.The only thing a saint will retain from this earth is the soul.

God is not allowing any humans to get in contact with the living,and the living cannot get in contact with the dead.

It is appointed unto men once to die,then the judgment,for whatever state you are in,whether good,or bad,you stay in that state forever,and it cannot be reversed,but of course if you are with Christ,you do not want it to be reversed.

 

[shofar]

Nobody is in heaven with Jesus yet !!!

The bible states at the 1st Resurrection the dead in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive will be risen and be together with the Lord in the air.

If the dead are already in heaven then there is no need for them to be risen at the 1st Resurrection !!!

If you focus on what Jesus said to Dimas,one of the famous 7 frases. and when the apostiles saw the men wearing white, which were moses and elijah talking to him.

 

[shofar]

if you want i can give you the information about how the rising of the dead has an order,

 

[KennethC]

The Bible says that if you are with Jesus,then to die is to be with Christ,like Jesus told the thief on the cross,today you will be with Me in paradise.

When a saint dies they are with Christ,but not in the New Jerusalem.

The only thing a saint will keep is the soul,for all spirits go back to God,no matter how the person acted on earth,so there are no spirits of humans roaming around the earth,whether with God,or not.The saints will put off the flesh.The only thing a saint will retain from this earth is the soul.

God is not allowing any humans to get in contact with the living,and the living cannot get in contact with the dead.

It is appointed unto men once to die,then the judgment,for whatever state you are in,whether good,or bad,you stay in that state forever,and it cannot be reversed,but of course if you are with Christ,you do not want it to be reversed.

Luke 12 Jesus speaks of different amounts of punishment being given out, so if all unbelievers and the disobedient burn in the lake of fire for the same length of time then the punishment would be the same making Luke 12's teaching a lie !!!

If you focus on what Jesus said to Dimas,one of the famous 7 frases. and when the apostiles saw the men wearing white, which were moses and elijah talking to him.

Revelation speaks of only 2 Resurrections..............

Apostle Paul gives the picture of the 1st Resurrection in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17...............When does this take place, both Paul and Revelation shows at His return.

 

[Utah]

First the study the Op gives is a bible study. Second how on earth do you think that? Yes we are judged after we die but when what happens between those times etc. Now I know you will have views and they may well be bible based but my point still stands you did not answer the questions with that one verse. Not saying your wrong or right just saying you have not answered the question.

Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5.24

 

[Euphemia]

Nobody is in heaven with Jesus yet !!!

The bible states at the 1st Resurrection the dead in Christ will rise first, then we which are alive will be risen and be together with the Lord in the air.

If the dead are already in heaven then there is no need for them to be risen at the 1st Resurrection !!!

Once again, the resurrection is to do with the physical body arising from its grave. The dead in Christ, however, is with the Lord already.

There is still the need for all spirits with Jesus to receive their physical bodies. They are to be like Him! He has a physical body now, for He ascended bodily. We shall also be like Him at the resurrection, having received our bodies of glory. The need is great, for we will be then able to be married to our Groom and then come with Him to Earth and establish His earthly Kingdom, and live here and serve Him and rule the nations.

I should think just a little common sense should help those of you who hold to the false idea of soul sleep...not to mention a little more study of the word, and more faith to believe God, as it does take faith to believe the truth.


.

 

[Euphemia]

The Bible says that if you are with Jesus,then to die is to be with Christ,like Jesus told the thief on the cross,today you will be with Me in paradise.

When a saint dies they are with Christ,but not in the New Jerusalem.

The only thing a saint will keep is the soul,for all spirits go back to God,no matter how the person acted on earth,so there are no spirits of humans roaming around the earth,whether with God,or not.The saints will put off the flesh.The only thing a saint will retain from this earth is the soul.

God is not allowing any humans to get in contact with the living,and the living cannot get in contact with the dead.

It is appointed unto men once to die,then the judgment,for whatever state you are in,whether good,or bad,you stay in that state forever,and it cannot be reversed,but of course if you are with Christ,you do not want it to be reversed.

Actually, the soul (mind, will and emotions) and spirit of a righteous man goes to the Father. The body is all that remains here. For the unrighteous, their soul and spirit goes to Hades to await the Great White Throne judgment.


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[shofar]

I am a little confused now to what your question is, elijah and moses came and spoke to Jesus, that is true, the people that have passed do not get in touch with the dead , but their has been wrongful cases such as when King saul through a medium talked to samuel, which i know was sinful to do. and I would like to add that I have been a watchman for many years, and the video that i placed has been happening to other people i am a witness to one of the people, taken in spirit like the boy describes and different halls and the entrance where their are souls, and you automatically naturally know the information, and one of the halls has fire, and the lights and the ones dressed in white. the video i placed gives good information. when our resurrection happens it will be in the order of us his people that have died, going to the place prepared, then his people living will also, i think that the Lord is showing a mystery to be spread, so that some can realise it is not worth sinning losing the gifts of heaven, The word says we would speak, dream, etc and that is happening. What happens to the dead is an individual thing. when it comes to where your place will be, it has levels in the halls. but to be with Jesus will happen at the resurrection, see the ones that have come to the heavens in wating do not see Jesus. that will be in the time to come, look at the video of the description he never says he sees Jesus he describes his filth he describes the transgression light and the good deeds light and a light brighter than anything it cant be descrbed at alll with nothing here. and this has been happening throughout the world, and to be heard

 

[KennethC]

Once again, the resurrection is to do with the physical body arising from its grave. The dead in Christ, however, is with the Lord already.

There is still the need for all spirits with Jesus to receive their physical bodies. They are to be like Him! He has a physical body now, for He ascended bodily. We shall also be like Him at the resurrection, having received our bodies of glory. The need is great, for we will be then able to be married to our Groom and then come with Him to Earth and establish His earthly Kingdom, and live here and serve Him and rule the nations.

I should think just a little common sense should help those of you who hold to the false idea of soul sleep...not to mention a little more study of the word, and more faith to believe God, as it does take faith to believe the truth.


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It does not refer to the physical body, as the bible clearly says that returns to dust.

It also states in the Word of God that the bodies of flesh and blood we have now can not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

We are given new eternal spiritual bodies at the resurrection, we are not placed back in our old physical bodies !!!

That body Jesus ascended in and will return is a new eternal body, not the same physical body. Look in scripture and you will see that some of the disciples did not recognize Him at first after His resurrection, this is because His the eternal body looks different then the physical body.

Please don't resort to talking down on others as that is uncalled for here, and is not showing the fruit of the Spirit !!!

 

[KennethC]

I am a little confused now to what your question is, elijah and moses came and spoke to Jesus, that is true, the people that have passed do not get in touch with the dead , but their has been wrongful cases such as when King saul through a medium talked to samuel, which i know was sinful to do. and I would like to add that I have been a watchman for many years, and the video that i placed has been happening to other people i am a witness to one of the people, taken in spirit like the boy describes and different halls and the entrance where their are souls, and you automatically naturally know the information, and one of the halls has fire, and the lights and the ones dressed in white. the video i placed gives good information. when our resurrection happens it will be in the order of us his people that have died, going to the place prepared, then his people living will also, i think that the Lord is showing a mystery to be spread, so that some can realise it is not worth sinning losing the gifts of heaven, The word says we would speak, dream, etc and that is happening. What happens to the dead is an individual thing. when it comes to where your place will be, it has levels in the halls. but to be with Jesus will happen at the resurrection, see the ones that have come to the heavens in wating do not see Jesus. that will be in the time to come, look at the video of the description he never says he sees Jesus he describes his filth he describes the transgression light and the good deeds light and a light brighter than anything it cant be descrbed at alll with nothing here. and this has been happening throughout the world, and to be heard

Visions and dreams do happen and are happening, but with those comes again discernment to listen to what the people say to see if it aligns with the Word of God.

Because just because a person claims to have received a vision or dream it may not be from God, and some of those do not prove people go automatically to heaven.

The picture given by the Apostle Paul shows the Lord descending from the clouds while those who are dead in Christ are ascending. If they are already with Him then it would show them descending with Him, and this is not just talking about our physical bodies.

Those turn back to dust and we are given new bodies at the Resurrection !!!

 

[RickyZ]

It does not refer to the physical body, as the bible clearly says that returns to dust.

It also states in the Word of God that the bodies of flesh and blood we have now can not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

We are given new eternal spiritual bodies at the resurrection, we are not placed back in our old physical bodies !!!

That body Jesus ascended in and will return is a new eternal body, not the same physical body. Look in scripture and you will see that some of the disciples did not recognize Him at first after His resurrection, this is because His the eternal body looks different then the physical body.

Please don't resort to talking down on others as that is uncalled for here, and is not showing the fruit of the Spirit !!!

If the body Jesus received is a new one, then His physical body is still in a grave somewhere. Do you really believe that is the case? And His resurrected body held the marks of His physical scarring (ie the holes in His hands and side). The spiritual body is a redeemed version of the physical body. The disciples didn't recognize Him at first because their eyes were closed to it, not because His body was so different.

As for talking down to people...

 

[Euphemia]

It does not refer to the physical body, as the bible clearly says that returns to dust.

It also states in the Word of God that the bodies of flesh and blood we have now can not inherit the kingdom of heaven.

We are given new eternal spiritual bodies at the resurrection, we are not placed back in our old physical bodies !!!

That body Jesus ascended in and will return is a new eternal body, not the same physical body. Look in scripture and you will see that some of the disciples did not recognize Him at first after His resurrection, this is because His the eternal body looks different then the physical body.

Please don't resort to talking down on others as that is uncalled for here, and is not showing the fruit of the Spirit !!!

Well...Jesus did not receive a new body because He still had holes in His hands and feet and a gash in His side when He arose and lived among the people for weeks before His ascension. He was changed into glory...which explains how He could move through solid walls without using a door. The bible is clear we will be transformed---changed into glory. That is what the resurrection is all about...dead bones and dust reconstituting into imperishable glory---all part of our great hope in Christ, our Living Hope.


1 Corinthians 15:52
It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.


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[shofar]

I am confused again, with how this came to asking me not to talk down to others??? now that you are talking about the flesh that we have here on earth, than i must say i didnt understand where this post was going, and i will obstain from trying to understand it. the apostiles wanted to build tents for his visitors that wore brightness in white, I send you blessings, and may the post feed others well

 

[notuptome]

2Co 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Jesus resurrected bodily. His body was changed into a glorified body from the body of flesh as some have said flesh and blood cannot inherit and no corruption can enter heaven.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[KennethC]

If the body Jesus received is a new one, then His physical body is still in a grave somewhere. Do you really believe that is the case? And His resurrected body held the marks of His physical scarring (ie the holes in His hands and side). The spiritual body is a redeemed version of the physical body. The disciples didn't recognize Him at first because their eyes were closed to it, not because His body was so different.

As for talking down to people...

No but it was not the same physical body He had as it was transformed into the His spiritual body.

The same will happen to those who are alive at the 1st Resurrection/rapture, they will be pulled up and transformed into new eternal bodies. We will all be changed in a twinkling of an eye......(1 Corinthians 15:51)

Well...Jesus did not receive a new body because He still had holes in His hands and feet and a gash in His side when He arose and lived among the people for weeks before His ascension. He was changed into glory...which explains how He could move through solid walls without using a door. The bible is clear we will be transformed---changed into glory. That is what the resurrection is all about...dead bones and dust reconstituting into imperishable glory---all part of our great hope in Christ, our Living Hope.


1 Corinthians 15:52
It will happen in a moment, in the blink of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, those who have died will be raised to live forever. And we who are living will also be transformed.


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Again the disciples walked with and listened to Christ personally for 3 1/2 years, why did they not recognize Him after His resurrection ???

If He returned to the same old physical body then they should have recognized Him right away, and Thomas did not even believe it was Jesus just by looking at Him. He had to see the hole's in Jesus wrists, and place his hand in Jesus side before He believed !!!

The new glorified bodies does not look like the old physical bodies, we are changed which is what 1 Corinthians 15:52 is saying.........

Also again how do you explain that the gathering mentioned from Paul shows the believers ascending in the air, while Jesus is descending from heaven ??? It does not say they are descending with Him and rejoined with their physical bodies !!!

 

[KennethC]

I am confused again, with how this came to asking me not to talk down to others??? now that you are talking about the flesh that we have here on earth, than i must say i didnt understand where this post was going, and i will obstain from trying to understand it. the apostiles wanted to build tents for his visitors that wore brightness in white, I send you blessings, and may the post feed others well

That was not said to you or to any of your postings !!!

 

[KennethC]

2Co 5:6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

Jesus resurrected bodily. His body was changed into a glorified body from the body of flesh as some have said flesh and blood cannot inherit and no corruption can enter heaven.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Yes but again this being changed into the glorified body does not change the timing of when this happens as the Apostle Paul laid out. He clearly said this happens at Jesus return, not before !!!

He shows in his picture the believers rising/ascending while Jesus by Himself is descending from heaven. Paul at this point does not show believers coming with Him !!!