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The bible differentiates between godly sorrow and worldly sorrow, with godly sorrow, brought on by the gentle nudging of the Holy Spirit, leading us into repentance, which brings restoration of relationship with the Father. Worldly sorrow brings harsh self-reproach and other negative and unhealthy responses...and no resolution.
It makes wonderful sense, because it is the truth. Holy Spirit lets us know when we have missed the mark, and His voice is soft and gentle, like a nudge that says, "Honey, you've done the wrong thing here. Come on, let's start again and do it better next time. I'll help you."
The enemy likes to get in there first and speaks with a raucous, ugly voice that brings with it thoughts of self-reproach and guilt. Two voices. Which one will we heed?
Godly sorrow or godly remorse is not the "end result of repentance ie, restoration of relationship", but it is the immediate forerunner of repentance and restoration to the Father.
2 Corinthians 7:10-11
For [godly] sorrow that is in accord with the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation; but worldly sorrow [the hopeless sorrow of those who do not believe] produces death. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For [you can look back and] see what an earnestness and authentic concern this godly sorrow has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves [against charges that you tolerate sin], what indignation [at sin], what fear [of offending God], what longing [for righteousness and justice], what passion [to do what is right], what readiness to punish [those who sin and those who tolerate sin]! At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in the matter.
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The enemy likes to get in there first and speaks with a raucous, ugly voice that brings with it thoughts of self-reproach and guilt. Two voices. Which one will we heed?
Godly sorrow or godly remorse is not the "end result of repentance ie, restoration of relationship", but it is the immediate forerunner of repentance and restoration to the Father.
2 Corinthians 7:10-11
For [godly] sorrow that is in accord with the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation; but worldly sorrow [the hopeless sorrow of those who do not believe] produces death. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For [you can look back and] see what an earnestness and authentic concern this godly sorrow has produced in you: what vindication of yourselves [against charges that you tolerate sin], what indignation [at sin], what fear [of offending God], what longing [for righteousness and justice], what passion [to do what is right], what readiness to punish [those who sin and those who tolerate sin]! At every point you have proved yourselves to be innocent in the matter.
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I understand what you are saying. However, 'godly sorrow' cannot be a nudge from the holy spirit or his small voice -godly sorrow canot be the holy spirits action towards you. therefore it must have something to do with you..
As the sripture you provided points out and is clear the sorrow is yours (or mine).. so what is [godly] sorrow.....that leads you to repentence.. remember the sorrow is yours not an action from the holy spirit. Do you feel it? what?
Nope Im not having a hrad time with godly I understand it erfectly.
So 'godly sorrow' brings a Right response (which is an action)... what is gody sorrow.. words have meaning even if you put them together. I think you have a hard time understanding what sorrow actually is, either godly or worldly. I think you know but don't like it.
So 'godly sorrow' brings a Right response (which is an action)... what is gody sorrow.. words have meaning even if you put them together. I think you have a hard time understanding what sorrow actually is, either godly or worldly. I think you know but don't like it.
Sorrow for me is pretty simple...it's an emotion from my soul from an event in our lives....could be from our own doing or from an outside force.
To me a godly sorrow makes me turn ( in thoughts or actions if needed ) to the Lord or to others ( outwardly ).....a worldly sorrow makes me turn to myself..(inwardly)..which does no good
To me a godly sorrow makes me turn ( in thoughts or actions if needed ) to the Lord or to others ( outwardly ).....a worldly sorrow makes me turn to myself..(inwardly)..which does no good
Yep...all sorrow either godly or worldly leads to some action.....some good....some not so good....actually all emotions lead to some kind of action as well....
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Thank God we have the Comforter to bring us out! He leads me beside the still waters..He restores my soul...
" The Lord is my shepherd...He breaketh my legs" ..oppsss....that's the other doctrine.....( sorry..I couldn't help myself... )
..Thank God we have the Comforter to bring us out! He leads me beside the still waters..He restores my soul...
" The Lord is my shepherd...He breaketh my legs" ..oppsss....that's the other doctrine.....( sorry..I couldn't help myself...
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We have touch down ..an answer... lol
godly sorrow is an emotion.....that leads to an action. (the definition of sorrow can be found in any good English dictionary)
godly sorrow is an emotion.....that leads to an action. (the definition of sorrow can be found in any good English dictionary)