baptism of the Holy Ghost
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K
The baptism that places us in the body of Christ is the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and only God can give that to His children.
It is the Holy Spirit that seals us to the day of redemption, but you in the past have placed people saved and having salvation that have not received the Holy Spirit yet or received Him at all.
That is false teaching and does not align with the Word of God !!!
It is a bad fearful thing to pass off teachings of man as coming from Christ, especially when they clearly do not align with scripture.
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
This scripture is Holy Spirit baptism not water baptism..............
K
That is a cop-out in the teachings you have received, as what Paul is speaking of in the speaking in tongues is the two ways the gift is ministered by the Holy Spirit.
Only in known human languages is it done openly to the members, anything else is to be done in private !!!
That is the point I am trying to get to you is that there is only 2 forms of tongues mentioned in scripture from the Holy Spirit.
That is it, no more no less, and one is done to edify the body (known human languages) and the other is to edify self (prayer language <----not to be done openly and out loud).
Only in known human languages is it done openly to the members, anything else is to be done in private !!!
That is the point I am trying to get to you is that there is only 2 forms of tongues mentioned in scripture from the Holy Spirit.
That is it, no more no less, and one is done to edify the body (known human languages) and the other is to edify self (prayer language <----not to be done openly and out loud).
I believe you wrote earlier, "The baptism in water and the baptism in the Holy Spirit---the baptism of fire---are both part of the baptism of Jesus Christ."
so, it sounds like if a person isn't baptized by the holy spirit, they aren't baptized by Jesus.
can a person be part of the body of Christ without having been baptized by Jesus?
so, it sounds like if a person isn't baptized by the holy spirit, they aren't baptized by Jesus.
can a person be part of the body of Christ without having been baptized by Jesus?
K
If they are speaking in tongues and it is done out loud and it is not human languages and if there is nobody there interpreting it then it is wrong and thus not from the Holy Spirit !!!
The Holy Spirit will not administer His gifts contradictory to the ways mentioned in scripture.........
Now the spirit of anti-christ will mock and mimic things of God to fool people into thinking they are following Him when they are really following a lie !!!
The Holy Spirit will not administer His gifts contradictory to the ways mentioned in scripture.........
Now the spirit of anti-christ will mock and mimic things of God to fool people into thinking they are following Him when they are really following a lie !!!
I had a friend start to do this blabbing thing when we were praying. I stopped the prayer ASAP. I told him it wasnt edifying me.The gift of tongues adheres to guidelines according to scripture. So in other words; if it doesnt,it is the wrong spirit.
Another time I had a bunch of ladies praying for me and they all started this babbling. I was very uncomfortable and needless to say,I fled from that false church
Another time I had a bunch of ladies praying for me and they all started this babbling. I was very uncomfortable and needless to say,I fled from that false church
Wow, knowing full well that tongues edifies the believer who speaks it, you would insinuate yourself into the prayer of a brother and stop Him from communing with God?
That is appalling. It isn't about you.
This is what ignorance and envy of the gifts acts like. That is the kind discordant, negative spirit that the word of God denounces.
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That is appalling. It isn't about you.
This is what ignorance and envy of the gifts acts like. That is the kind discordant, negative spirit that the word of God denounces.
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1 Corinthians 14:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries.
One does have to speak with his voice...it is a good thing to not be loud and be a distraction in a church setting unless of course everyone is praying for a special reason or worshipping the Lord...
....I pray in the spirit while playing racquetball very quietly but if you were real close you might hear me...sometimes I just sing in to guess..that was they just think I am foreign and happy..lol
KennethC ...Do you speak in tongues in your prayer time with the Lord?
[SUP]2 [/SUP] For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries.
One does have to speak with his voice...it is a good thing to not be loud and be a distraction in a church setting unless of course everyone is praying for a special reason or worshipping the Lord...
....I pray in the spirit while playing racquetball very quietly but if you were real close you might hear me...sometimes I just sing in to guess..that was they just think I am foreign and happy..lol
KennethC ...Do you speak in tongues in your prayer time with the Lord?
Your words are getting more colorful. Careful. Choose your words because I am certainly trying
Appalling?
He was praying for me!! The gift of tongues is for his communion in PRIVATE with God and it is not edifying me. There wasnt an interpreter present. So according to what paul told the corinthians he was out of order.
Envy of the gifts? LOL
Okayyyyyyyy
I have a gift. Mine is according to scripture
Appalling?
He was praying for me!! The gift of tongues is for his communion in PRIVATE with God and it is not edifying me. There wasnt an interpreter present. So according to what paul told the corinthians he was out of order.
Envy of the gifts? LOL
Okayyyyyyyy
I have a gift. Mine is according to scripture
Yes, it is unwise to erupt in tongues in the presence of those who do not understand the gift, and especially so when praying over that same person. It can cause offense, which in blondie's case, it did. That kind of offense can fester and cause the person to willfully continue in unbelief concerning tongues. The Christian must not allow that, because it hinders, and should study and ask God about this and wait for His voice in the matter.
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That is not necessarily so. What was wrong was insulting God and interrupting someone's communing with Him. If she was offended, she need only step away. Kindness is a fruit of the Spirit.
Stopping someone from praying to God as if that person was praying to her is not of God. It is pride. Personal offense can lead a person to hurt people.
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Stopping someone from praying to God as if that person was praying to her is not of God. It is pride. Personal offense can lead a person to hurt people.
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Your words are getting more colorful. Careful. Choose your words because I am certainly trying
Appalling?
He was praying for me!! The gift of tongues is for his communion in PRIVATE with God and it is not edifying me. There wasnt an interpreter present. So according to what paul told the corinthians he was out of order.
Envy of the gifts? LOL
Okayyyyyyyy
I have a gift. Mine is according to scripture
Appalling?
He was praying for me!! The gift of tongues is for his communion in PRIVATE with God and it is not edifying me. There wasnt an interpreter present. So according to what paul told the corinthians he was out of order.
Envy of the gifts? LOL
Okayyyyyyyy
I have a gift. Mine is according to scripture
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K
Some times I do and some times I don't, but the point is that is to be done in silent........
There is nowhere in the Word of God that allows the speaking in tongues to be done aloud in front of others when no interpreter is interpreting. If you are doing that then you are doing it wrongly and thus can not come from the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit will not have His gifts done contradictory to what the Word of God says...