The 1 John 1:9 Lie: More New.Modern.Hyper Grace blasphemy
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1 John 2:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
So if sin must be confessed in order to be forgiven how could John write this? Lets not even consider the time frame of the letter having to be delivered, and whether they repented or not before this letter reached them. If sin confession is for the believer how could John make this statement unless maybe he had their itinerary of when they confess so that this letter would be accurate on arrival?
Its a silly extreme, is it not? How could he possibly say such a blasphemous thing, that they are forgiven of their sins? Does he not know that we must confess our sins to be cleansed of all unrighteousness? He must have their prayer life committed to memory.
12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.
So if sin must be confessed in order to be forgiven how could John write this? Lets not even consider the time frame of the letter having to be delivered, and whether they repented or not before this letter reached them. If sin confession is for the believer how could John make this statement unless maybe he had their itinerary of when they confess so that this letter would be accurate on arrival?
Its a silly extreme, is it not? How could he possibly say such a blasphemous thing, that they are forgiven of their sins? Does he not know that we must confess our sins to be cleansed of all unrighteousness? He must have their prayer life committed to memory.
K
What, being tempted does not make one guilty of sin !!!
If you are a drunk that has gone on the wagon (no longer drinks), but I tempt you by drinking in front of you. I would be the one guilty of sin, not you if even though tempted to pick up a beer again you don't !!!
Just because Jesus was tempted in every way as we are does not make Him guilty of sin, and nowhere did I say temptation makes one guilty of sin. I don't even know how you came about that ???
Do you have a comprehending issue, or do you just like to make up lies on what another said ??? Just a question !!!
If you are a drunk that has gone on the wagon (no longer drinks), but I tempt you by drinking in front of you. I would be the one guilty of sin, not you if even though tempted to pick up a beer again you don't !!!
Just because Jesus was tempted in every way as we are does not make Him guilty of sin, and nowhere did I say temptation makes one guilty of sin. I don't even know how you came about that ???
Do you have a comprehending issue, or do you just like to make up lies on what another said ??? Just a question !!!
Did you read the part where I said I don't even consider keeping it now? This is where concentrating and focusing on sin traps you. Doing such always seems to leave you in the same position Eve found herself in at the tree. You are not really keeping your eyes on Jesus, but you are equally looking over at sin, and evaluating the two "choices."
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I am sure you are wrong. You claimed at the time to not even have seen it, so I re-posted it for you. They were clearly saying it was wrong to admit to sinning after you are saved. They basically told me they were sin free, honest to a fault, not self righteous, etc etc, that to agree to being a sinner (which is what one is when one sins) was agreeing with Satan. I should not be surprised that you see sin as only outward behavior. Jesus clearly identified sin as an inner condition.
Nope . . . My position within the household of God is that of a daughter.
My relationship with my Father and with the Son can be fractured by my WALK. God is light and in him is no darkness at all - light does not have fellowship with darkness - our fellowship is our relationship with the Father and the Son and to keep that relationship in perfect harmony - there can be no darkness. (Please note that I am not talking about salvation.)
Let me use this as an example - I do something that I haven't discussed with my husband and in the back of my mind I know he won't be too pleased so I just don't tell him. But he finds out - our relationship is fractured - what was once in perfect harmony I messed up by doing something I knew I shouldn't. In order to mend our relationship, I need to acknowledge that what I did was wrong and ask his forgiveness so that we once again live in perfect harmony. I was still married even though I did something wrong and if I had died, I would have still been his wife . . . in my relationship with God - I may do something wrong but I am still his daughter and if I should die - I am still his daughter.
My relationship with my Father and with the Son can be fractured by my WALK. God is light and in him is no darkness at all - light does not have fellowship with darkness - our fellowship is our relationship with the Father and the Son and to keep that relationship in perfect harmony - there can be no darkness. (Please note that I am not talking about salvation.)
Let me use this as an example - I do something that I haven't discussed with my husband and in the back of my mind I know he won't be too pleased so I just don't tell him. But he finds out - our relationship is fractured - what was once in perfect harmony I messed up by doing something I knew I shouldn't. In order to mend our relationship, I need to acknowledge that what I did was wrong and ask his forgiveness so that we once again live in perfect harmony. I was still married even though I did something wrong and if I had died, I would have still been his wife . . . in my relationship with God - I may do something wrong but I am still his daughter and if I should die - I am still his daughter.
Jesus Himself told us that our sins have to be forgiven by the Father. He told us we should pray 'forgive us our sins'. How then can you say we should not confess our sins?
That is not to say we should come for the forgiveness that is in Christ, but the forgiveness of a Father to His son,
I think you have misinterpreted the Scriptures,
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Please stop jumping to this straw-man, nobody is talking about sinless perfection.......
There was only one person who tried to pass this doctrine off on here and he got banned a long time ago.
Apostle John is talking about how true believers will walk compared to false believers, and he clearly shows like Paul did if you walk in a hateful and unforgiving way then the Love of God is not in us. Thus he also says the Truth and eternal life also is not in us.
When we are walking properly in the faith (walking in the Light) then we will have these traits about us:
We will be loving, caring, compassionate, show mercy, be longsuffering, have self-control, and obedience to the Lord....
Will we mess up from time to time, yes, but that struggling or stumbling does not excuse deliberate continuous behavior which is what John is talking about.
When he said are sins are forgiven it is because he is talking as Paul did, to believers who should be walking in those conditions mentioned in the fruit of the Holy Spirit !!!
When walking by the Spirit that fruit will in no way lead one to transgress the moral law of God !!!
(Which is also called transgressing against God)
There was only one person who tried to pass this doctrine off on here and he got banned a long time ago.
Apostle John is talking about how true believers will walk compared to false believers, and he clearly shows like Paul did if you walk in a hateful and unforgiving way then the Love of God is not in us. Thus he also says the Truth and eternal life also is not in us.
When we are walking properly in the faith (walking in the Light) then we will have these traits about us:
We will be loving, caring, compassionate, show mercy, be longsuffering, have self-control, and obedience to the Lord....
Will we mess up from time to time, yes, but that struggling or stumbling does not excuse deliberate continuous behavior which is what John is talking about.
When he said are sins are forgiven it is because he is talking as Paul did, to believers who should be walking in those conditions mentioned in the fruit of the Holy Spirit !!!
When walking by the Spirit that fruit will in no way lead one to transgress the moral law of God !!!
(Which is also called transgressing against God)