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M
As I said earlier I am an individual I am not "the UK"
I can only speak of my own experiences in that I have had dozens
of conversations with Asian taxi drivers about Christ and have prayed
openly with them at their request.
My own church is made up of people of over 40 nationalities and it actively
preaches the gospel both inside and out in public places.
There are regular open air services in the City where I live with the permission
of the City Council. The church is part of the teen challenge mission with a
bus which goes out regularly on the evening to the most deprived areas of the
city, which also includes those with a high Asian population. This is all done with
the permission of the City Council who give permission for the bus to park on
the council car parks in the relevant areas.
The schools in the area ask us to run their after school clubs and take some of their
school assemblies. All state run schools.
M
As I said earlier I am an individual I am not "the UK"
I can only speak of my own experiences in that I have had dozens
of conversations with Asian taxi drivers about Christ and have prayed
openly with them at their request.
My own church is made up of people of over 40 nationalities and it actively
preaches the gospel both inside and out in public places.
There are regular open air services in the City where I live with the permission
of the City Council. The church is part of the teen challenge mission with a
bus which goes out regularly on the evening to the most deprived areas of the
city, which also includes those with a high Asian population. This is all done with
the permission of the City Council who give permission for the bus to park on
the council car parks in the relevant areas.
The schools in the area ask us to run their after school clubs and take some of their
school assemblies. All state run schools.
I can only speak of my own experiences in that I have had dozens
of conversations with Asian taxi drivers about Christ and have prayed
openly with them at their request.
My own church is made up of people of over 40 nationalities and it actively
preaches the gospel both inside and out in public places.
There are regular open air services in the City where I live with the permission
of the City Council. The church is part of the teen challenge mission with a
bus which goes out regularly on the evening to the most deprived areas of the
city, which also includes those with a high Asian population. This is all done with
the permission of the City Council who give permission for the bus to park on
the council car parks in the relevant areas.
The schools in the area ask us to run their after school clubs and take some of their
school assemblies. All state run schools.
M
Absolutely and that goes for any country but what is one man's ideal
government is another man's worst nightmare.
That is why I think all true Christians have a duty to pray and seek Gods
will before placing that vote. The difficulty is that we humans tend to
have our own agenda and this is not necessarily God's agenda.
Also that the number of true bible believing born again spirit filled
christians is on the decline.
Praise God where there are countries with sufficient numbers to make
a difference at the voting booths. But ultimately Gods will, will be done whatever
the outcome and I believe we still need to pray for our leaders even if we don't
agree with their policy.
Pray they will come to know God, pray they will do what is right and
maybe even pray they will lose their authority if felt called to pray
that way.
Why? Because we do not hear and see all nor can we see the motives
of a person's heart but God sees all hidden things.
government is another man's worst nightmare.
That is why I think all true Christians have a duty to pray and seek Gods
will before placing that vote. The difficulty is that we humans tend to
have our own agenda and this is not necessarily God's agenda.
Also that the number of true bible believing born again spirit filled
christians is on the decline.
Praise God where there are countries with sufficient numbers to make
a difference at the voting booths. But ultimately Gods will, will be done whatever
the outcome and I believe we still need to pray for our leaders even if we don't
agree with their policy.
Pray they will come to know God, pray they will do what is right and
maybe even pray they will lose their authority if felt called to pray
that way.
Why? Because we do not hear and see all nor can we see the motives
of a person's heart but God sees all hidden things.
M
I think Yonin mention on page 1 it wasn't a ban it was a debate which had
to happen. If sufficient people sign a petition in the UK about anything,
then it had to be debated by parliament.
I think it is over 100,000? So for example if over 100,000 wanted to ban
raspberry ripple ice cream because it caused offence to people who
worshipped raspberries, then..... You can see where I am going with this
cant you.
to happen. If sufficient people sign a petition in the UK about anything,
then it had to be debated by parliament.
I think it is over 100,000? So for example if over 100,000 wanted to ban
raspberry ripple ice cream because it caused offence to people who
worshipped raspberries, then.....
You can see where I am going with thiscant you.
M
Sure ..we should pray...but God expects US to watch over our nation and our communities and our families ..and to act and speak according to what He has already given us . God gave is the responsibility to keep and care for the things he has giving us... Not to just pray but to act and speak and stand for what is right.
M
I think Yonin mention on page 1 it wasn't a ban it was a debate which had
to happen. If sufficient people sign a petition in the UK about anything,
then it had to be debated by parliament.
I think it is over 100,000? So for example if over 100,000 wanted to ban
raspberry ripple ice cream because it caused offence to people who
worshipped raspberries, then..... You can see where I am going with this
cant you.
to happen. If sufficient people sign a petition in the UK about anything,
then it had to be debated by parliament.
I think it is over 100,000? So for example if over 100,000 wanted to ban
raspberry ripple ice cream because it caused offence to people who
worshipped raspberries, then.....
You can see where I am going with thiscant you.
M
Actually I think it is a great idea and it works for the UK because the
UK is small country or a large island - this form of free speech brings
things which are important to large numbers of people to the fore front
and a debate is a debate, not a decision - which are made later following
due process. It is open to anyone to start a petition on any aspect,
even Christians.
Would it work in the US - I dunno, possibly not due to the size of the
USA.
Anyway way this might help a bit.
You will see from the second link that as well as a "ban Trump" petition
there is also a "don't ban trump" petition - both by default were considered
together as they were "different sides of the same coin". However media
being what it is. The "ban trump" side was given more emphasis and the
media forgot to give the background and explain the e-petition system.
So what everyone got was the headline UK SEEKS TO BAN TRUMP
alarmist over exergerated story line - on both sides of the pond I might
add as the UK media are no better.
Personally I haven't a clue about US politics or what Trumps stands for.
E-Petitions and the Backbench Business Committee - UK Parliament
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=debated
M
A petition to stop someone from speaking and then trying to pass a law to ban a person for speaking the truth or to punish a person...is the tactic of Nazis and communist ... Not a democracy trying to promote liberty.
And a petition in the USA is to start the process of passing a law for or against something...under the protection of the constitution that protects free speech as fundamental to liberty... The whole attempt by some in your country is insulting and proves that your society is a destructive cycle of PC insanity.
And a petition in the USA is to start the process of passing a law for or against something...under the protection of the constitution that protects free speech as fundamental to liberty... The whole attempt by some in your country is insulting and proves that your society is a destructive cycle of PC insanity.
I can see the argument to it being insulting to want to ban Trump, but then if all men are equal there's that curious case of shoe on the other foot fairly recently with Piers Morgan and how there was quite a popular petition to deport him. Lol Piers Morgan kinda annoyed me too lol, but I didn't want him deported. Lots of people in America like Piers, I can kinda see it for certain parts of his job he good at it. Despite Piers not being a citizen of America; is it not sorta insulting to the king to want to deport his British guest brought in to entertain you? He was even somewhat in exile from oppressive Britain over tax stuff or whatever (sound familiar to certain 1700s stories I heard.) I think Piers especially keeping in context of the very recent past around that time the Sandy Hook Shootings and Aurora and all that stuff, I think his mind was just boggled and he was culture shocked in relation to guns and America. I think in the same way Trump just calling it like it is kinda shocks the Brits a bit, and perhaps Trump saying such things is because he sees the Brits news and is culture shocked by that lol.
On governments and petitions: The People are more important than the constitution or government or even national identity as America itself being they're designated kings by the government. Government, has to let them make the petitions, cuz we are 'Muricans and the British king even signed the true founding document of America under royal divine right decree and all that fancy monarch pageantry stuff, the Treaty of Paris. With royal French, Spanish, and Dutch witnesses to boot. In a way keeping to the topic, the Britons and other major Western Europeans and Americans are all linked, yet we Americans are distinct. So to put American PC legalism in a nutshell, we the people of the USA are kings of America and we'll petition our government serfs about anything we want. Government still has right to say no to the petition though ironically in name of their own kings by their own laws lol, simple as that.
On subject of modern petitions perhaps one for the Obama thread, but maybe one small good thing for our servant Obama is just small simple stuff like his allowing petitions on the White House website and what not. Despite Obama's own personal responses or non-responses to such issues, if anything makes a good study of some of the more prevalent and modern real today issues for Americans. Lol some of them are serious, some of them a lil more how we shall say, different. All sorts of important, non-important, and just kinda random issues really, here's the most recent and popular petitions open directly to President Obama right now.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
One can't help but to be nosy if its out there publicly on the air on the official state run media. So guess we can't fault nosey Brits for being nosy or them fault us for being nosey about them being nosy lol.
Aw well there you go then.
Maybe the US can start a ban the queen petition
I honestly don't have any opinion either way on the
potential banning of trump or the queen from either country Lol.
Or we could just annoy everyone and have a "ban the hyper grace"
threads joint petition. Lol
Maybe the US can start a ban the queen petition
I honestly don't have any opinion either way on the
potential banning of trump or the queen from either country Lol.
Or we could just annoy everyone and have a "ban the hyper grace"
threads joint petition. Lol
R
the last time i checked it -is- the UK's business who they let into their country...which is a really ironic thing to forget for someone who wants to take draconian measures to keep people out of the united states...
but that really gets to another aspect of the trumpist mentality...like the gay marriage lobby and other deviant movements before them the trumpists want to play by a different set of rules from everyone else...trumpism is a big government liberal mentality of 'welfare aplenty but only for me'
but that really gets to another aspect of the trumpist mentality...like the gay marriage lobby and other deviant movements before them the trumpists want to play by a different set of rules from everyone else...trumpism is a big government liberal mentality of 'welfare aplenty but only for me'
Aw well there you go then.
Maybe the US can start a ban the queen petition
I honestly don't have any opinion either way on the
potential banning of trump or the queen from either country Lol.
Or we could just annoy everyone and have a "ban the hyper grace"
threads joint petition. Lol
Maybe the US can start a ban the queen petition
I honestly don't have any opinion either way on the
potential banning of trump or the queen from either country Lol.
Or we could just annoy everyone and have a "ban the hyper grace"
threads joint petition. Lol
I'm pretty sure bumblebee teapots are pagan.........
M
Its not the UK business to get involved with our politics and the idea that they would threaten to ban trump for saying what the majority of Americans believe ..prove how insane they are with that PC nonsense ... As Europe burns and bleeds from allowing this immigration of muslims ..they attack anyone that don't go along with their insanity?