False Prophets, False Christs, False Apostles, False Teachers

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ForthAngel said:
None of them are members here as far as I know. That's no excuse not to expose them as many here follow them and the movements they have started. We have a right to judge them. They are teaching heretical doctrines. Doctrines of demons. Watch the video and decide for yourself.
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lol.. Sorry, I do not need to waste time on witch hunts there are enough people in here who need help.

If anyone asks about them, then yes, I would talk about that gteacher, but we have so many false prophets in CC Chat to worry about people outside.
 
There will always be people on the internet that will take "parts" of what people say and take them out of context to make them look like they are saying something else.

just look at our examples here at CC..how many times have we said grace is not a liciense to sin..or that we believe in repetnace..and yet..people still say the complete opposite..

Look at these websites that took "parts" of Billy Graham's words and twisted them...there will always be this sort of garbage around..

Here is a garbage one about Billy.. This site is called "The path of truth"..lol

How the Lord Exposed Billy Graham

here he is accused of being a wolf in sheep's clothing..garbage..slander...

Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham
 
ForthAngel said:
Let me give you a scripture to back up the other points. Claiming to be equal to God. Who else does that?

2 Thes. 2
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]2 [/SUP]not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness[SUP][b][/SUP] is revealed, the son of destruction,[SUP][c][/SUP] [SUP]4 [/SUP]who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

You don't call that blasphemy?
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I spent six years working at our State's main Mental Hospital. Your "reasoning" is bringing a lot of it back to me.
 
Grace777x70 said:
There will always be people on the internet that will take "parts" of what people say and take them out of context to make them look like they are saying something else.

just look at our examples here at CC..how many times have we said grace is not a liciense to sin..or that we believe in repetnace..and yet..people still say the complete opposite..

Look at these websites that took "parts" of Billy Graham's words and twisted them...there will always be this sort of garbage around..

Here is a garbage one about Billy.. This site is called "The path of truth"..lol

How the Lord Exposed Billy Graham

here he is accused of being a wolf in sheep's clothing..garbage..slander...

Wolves in Costume: Billy Graham
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What they've said has not been taken out of context. They teach it as doctrine. You guys. I don't understand you at all. I know I shouldn't be surprised at the willful rejection of what is plainly true, but c'mon....

Who do you think scripture is talking about Grace777? In all the hundreds of verses about false prophets and teachers? Give me an example? Or are you claiming the Holy Spirit just made all that up and it should just be ignored?
 
Willie-T said:
How did you manage to stray so far from 2 Peter 2? I bolded about the only place you stayed with the passage.

You can't just add your special meanings to what God says.
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Nor can you make your own "special meanings". Here is the passage-
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;


It says "even denying the Lord that bought them" not "only denying the Lord that bought them". Other than that He seems to be warning us to stay VERY vigilant because they will be very smooth and not always so easy to spot so we need to stay aware of what His word ACTUALLY says, and not just accept what we want to hear.

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 3:18)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
lol.. Sorry, I do not need to waste time on witch hunts there are enough people in here who need help.

If anyone asks about them, then yes, I would talk about that gteacher, but we have so many false prophets in CC Chat to worry about people outside.
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Agree that there are people here who need help.

This is not a witch hunt.

This is an attempt at helping those very same people.

Agree with there being plenty of false prophets here as well, many of which who are under the teachings of the leaders the video exposes.
 
Willie-T said:
This is a mistake in understanding the terms. "False" anything in the Bible are those people or teachings leading us away from Jehovah, and to another god. NOT people teaching things we just don't happen to like.
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Willey, you just corked the bottle. You have fully proven that you care not for God's word, His clear commands, His honor, nor do you care for the sheep that are shorn weekly by false shepherds with dollar signs in their eyes. They are hirelings that really dont care for the sheep but their own interests, their own bank accounts, their own lime light, their own kingdoms.
Their own easy street position.

And Willey 'and My people love it so'. Blind guides to the blind wallowing in the ditch. Clueless!
 
ForthAngel said:
Not anyone I disagree with. These men pervert scripture. Scripture disagrees with them
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Everyone who disagrees with another's understanding of scripture thinks the other has perverted scripture and that scripture disagrees with them.

They blaspheme. They claim they are gods. Claim equality to Christ. Deny the divinity of Christ. Claim they are all begotten sons of God. Why in the face of sure evidence do you ignore the warnings?
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Are these people here on the forum? If so, please provide the evidence, and those who are guilty of these very serious accusations.
 
A scripture I can't escape thinking of, regarding things false, is this,

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

It's understandable, young people in some cult, or the young in Christ in some cult (speaking of the born again), and there are many, many testimonies of those who started reading the Bible and saw they had to leave those cults, so many it's a common testimony of ex-cult members. Scripture states that scripture can only be spiritually discerned. As shown, the Lord Jesus stated the Spirit will guide into all truth, no maybe will guide.

This seems to create a huge problem, believing there's even salvation in those who refute doctrines Spirit-filled Christians will line up, around the block, to testify as to the truth of, those so-called Christians a lifetime adhering to some errors and trying to teach them which, coincidentally, involve trying to foster doubt, not faith and trust in God. It's not at all the case Christians disagree on everything. The Bible also means what it says. Like the eternal security issue, you will find scholarly theologians, pastors and Bible teachers of unblemished reputations, who all agree on eternal security, a long roll call of trusted ministers, living and gone on to glory, the same well demonstrating that some don't understand scripture they claim states otherwise. There is a narrow gate not everybody enters through. The Bible teaches on tares and virgins without oil in their lamps, leaven in the lump, dirty birds in the trees.

Neither does the Bible, the teaching of Jesus Christ and the apostles, support a Rodney King "why can't we all get along" stance, with regard to deception and false doctrines, and it doesn't matter a person's motivations spreading error: it's the devil's work, even if a person doesn't know they're on his payroll. My vote remains that those who play the "love card" and making nice with error are content to "love" people into hell, that it's like the "judge not" of some who claim this means a person should have no judgment, one can only suppose less discernment than Balaam's ass, and, if you do have discernment of lies, keep it to yourself. It's a pretense of the devil being an "angel of light" stuff. Lies are lies, and truth is truth. Truth isn't politically correct, either.

Titus 1:10-16 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth. Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
 
ForthAngel said:
What they've said has not been taken out of context. They teach it as doctrine. You guys. I don't understand you at all. I know I shouldn't be surprised at the willful rejection of what is plainly true, but c'mon....

Who do you think scripture is talking about Grace777? In all the hundreds of verses about false prophets and teachers? Give me an example? Or are you claiming the Holy Spirit just made all that up and it should just be ignored?
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I have shared about some simple emotional realities or basing your outlook on love, and people say, I do not understand you.

Jesus brings freedom, real freedom to see things completely because you stand with the creator, nothing blocks the light. If you want to know how free people are, you will find they choose to be blind, because if they did open themselves up they would have to change, so fear literally holds them captive.
 
FreeNChrist said:
Everyone who disagrees with another's understanding of scripture thinks the other has perverted scripture and that scripture disagrees with them.



Are these people here on the forum? If so, please provide the evidence, and those who are guilty of such, for these very serious accusations.
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These are not peripheral disagreements. These men compromise the core Gospel. They teach a different Christ than that of scripture. I don't understand why yall are so worried about them being on the forums or not. Again, many people here follow these men and many millions of Christians follow the movements left in the wake of these men, as evidenced already on this thread. They should be exposed so others don't follow the same path.
 
ForthAngel said:
These are not peripheral disagreements. These men compromise the core Gospel. They teach a different Christ than that of scripture. I don't understand why yall are so worried about them being on the forums or not. Again, many people here follow these men and many millions of Christians follow the movements left in the wake of these men, as evidenced already on this thread. They should be exposed so others don't follow the same path.
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WHAT MEN??
 
eternally-gratefull said:
lol.. Sorry, I do not need to waste time on witch hunts there are enough people in here who need help.

If anyone asks about them, then yes, I would talk about that gteacher, but we have so many false prophets in CC Chat to worry about people outside.
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We are to expose them. Ephesians 5:11....oops! I forgot. Not suppose to use scripture on this site. I dont remember 'only when someone asks'. Widows, the poor, the sick sending their few dollars to these mega buck arrogant monsters ....and we are to remain silent??? You betcha. Now we know why they flourish....no resistance. Welcome to the 'last hour'!
 
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ForthAngel said:
Agree that there are people here who need help.

This is not a witch hunt.

This is an attempt at helping those very same people.

Agree with there being plenty of false prophets here as well, many of which who are under the teachings of the leaders the video exposes.
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and many more who are not..

Your video is not going to help those you think are under the spell of those people.. If anything, it will make them fight you even harder..
 
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We are to expose them. I dont remember 'only when someone asks'. Widows, the poor, the sick sending their few dollars to these mega buck arrogant monsters ....and we are to remain silent??? You betcha. Now we know why they flourish....no resistance. Welcome to the 'last hour'!
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yep, Thats why the world hates the church, we can not even agree on anything, and all we do is fight..we are a bunch of hypocrites.

I do not need to expose anyone.. I just need to share the truth.. and if the situation comes up. then I can correct a false teacher..
 
eternally-gratefull said:

yep, Thats why the world hates the church, we can not even agree on anything, and all we do is fight..we are a bunch of hypocrites.

I do not need to expose anyone.. I just need to share the truth.. and if the situation comes up. then I can correct a false teacher..
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Question: you do not agree with Ephesians 5:11?
 
Amen!..preach the good news of the gospel of grace!..the light will dispel any darkness...none of us know everything!

eternally-gratefull said:

yep, Thats why the world hates the church, we can not even agree on anything, and all we do is fight..we are a bunch of hypocrites.

I do not need to expose anyone.. I just need to share the truth.. and if the situation comes up. then I can correct a false teacher..
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Jimbone said:
Nor can you make your own "special meanings". Here is the passage-
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;


It says "even denying the Lord that bought them" not "only denying the Lord that bought them". Other than that He seems to be warning us to stay VERY vigilant because they will be very smooth and not always so easy to spot so we need to stay aware of what His word ACTUALLY says, and not just accept what we want to hear.

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Peter 3:18)
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I think the problem is in why some will not address others as false teachers is because they think such a person will openly say they don't believe in Jesus (deny Him).

The thing is though is the Word of God shows there is other ways in denying Jesus then just not believing He existed, as it shows that the actions one does also shows this denying of Him. Matthew 25 shows this denying to do for others in need is the same as denying Him !!!

People in no way would be deceived if these false teachers just went around openly saying I don't believe in Him, which is why we have to stay firm in sound doctrine and make sure what they are saying aligns with what is written in the Word of God.

The other thing we are to watch out for it says is when people start mingling and debating over word usage, and take and act as if only a college education can understand what is written. That is carnal thinking !!!
 
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