False Prophets, False Christs, False Apostles, False Teachers

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eternally-gratefull

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Then why such the issue with me doing it? I've seen many here who support and promote the very same people I'm attempting to expose. Why so mad about it?

WHO??????

I keep hering this accusations gthrone around, but I do not see it..
 

ForthAngel

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really? They have been preaching it here for days..

you have been so busy trying to expose others you have not seen it..


The very people you have been judging have been trying to expose them, but your to busy trying to expose us, and thinking we preach something we do not. you can't see it.
I haven't been busy trying to do anything. This is my first thread about exposing anyone. The rest of the time it's been normal debate just like everyone else.
 

crossnote

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I am not trying to be politically correct, if you look up you will see I exposed benny hinn as a false prophet when one of his disciples came in here saying he was a prophet of God and we should all listen to him.

I am just saying, why are we doing this when people in here need help. seems to be a waste of our resources and time..


(not to mention, this is a bible study forum, not a lets discredit teacher forum, Do that have a place for that??
Sorry you took it personal. It was a general observation.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I see one person who makes the mistake of posting a particular video of a person that explains what he wants to say better then he can, and for some reason, people thinks he is a diehard follower of that person..

In the meantime, I see people sayin gwe can lose salvation, We must be baptized in water to be saved, a false religious aspect of what the word repent means..

And nothing is said.. because the people trying to expose them are being yelled at..
 

ForthAngel

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WHO??????

I keep hering this accusations gthrone around, but I do not see it..
There very same people who are opposed to this thread :rolleyes:

Am I to assume you are in agreement with false prophets and false teachers? If not, then why are you arguing against me.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Sorry you took it personal. It was a general observation.

sorry I did not take it that way, I know you good enough to know you were not meaning that.
 

ForthAngel

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I see one person who makes the mistake of posting a particular video of a person that explains what he wants to say better then he can, and for some reason, people thinks he is a diehard follower of that person..

In the meantime, I see people sayin gwe can lose salvation, We must be baptized in water to be saved, a false religious aspect of what the word repent means..

And nothing is said.. because the people trying to expose them are being yelled at..
I've responded to the water salvation views I've seen and exposed them as well. I've also responded to the losing salvation people. Why are you in such opposition to this thread?
 

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1Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant for your adverary the devil walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.

I guess the question remains. Do we or do we not warn others about this lion? As watchmen on the wall?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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There very same people who are opposed to this thread :rolleyes:

Am I to assume you are in agreement with false prophets and false teachers? If not, then why are you arguing against me.
smh,

WHo? I do not see anyone like that here, If you think Grace 777 or the other person are diehard benny hin followers. You have not been listening to them at all. And if they are, its on me, But I have seen them deny the very thing your saying.. You have been here how long and you know them??

in the meantime, Ken, Peter and other true false teachers are here continuing to spread their false religion the the world.

 

ForthAngel

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smh,

WHo? I do not see anyone like that here, If you think Grace 777 or the other person are diehard benny hin followers. You have not been listening to them at all. And if they are, its on me, But I have seen them deny the very thing your saying.. You have been here how long and you know them??

in the meantime, Ken, Peter and other true false teachers are here continuing to spread their false religion the the world.

I've been here about four years now. I've been involved in several threads where they have openly defended the people in the video and many others like them. Again. Why are you opposed to this thread?
 

Blain

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I have been called all three of these things many times in cc
 

Blain

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Also I don't think people deny they exist but they are quick to call people such things
 

ForthAngel

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Also I don't think people deny they exist but they are quick to call people such things
I agree that some are quick to do it. Others, however, are discerning and make sound judgments, and do not take exposing anyone by name lightly. Much deliberation and research is done beforehand. If someone has blatantly warped and undermined the Gospel, preached a false gospel, or teaches in direct opposition of what is found in scripture, it is our responsibility to call them out on it and to warn others. Anyone who opposes this idea of exposing is opposing direct instruction from scripture.

Edit: Some people are denying their existence. It's pretty clear to see.
 
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There are many False Brothers in the World, Benny Hinn is just one of them. Another False Brother is Pope John Paul II who saw nothing wrong with bowing down to a statue of Mary and serving her as his god. God has told us in the End Times we will see an increase in False people trying to deceive us into following their gods.

Matthew 7:15-20
[SUP]15 [/SUP] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

2 Peter 2:1-3
[SUP]1 [/SUP] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.


1 John 4:1-3
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
[SUP]3 [/SUP] and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
 

Blain

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I agree that some are quick to do it. Others, however, are discerning and make sound judgments, and do not take exposing anyone by name lightly. Much deliberation and research is done beforehand. If someone has blatantly warped and undermined the Gospel, preached a false gospel, or teaches in direct opposition of what is found in scripture, it is our responsibility to call them out on it and to warn others. Anyone who opposes this idea of exposing is opposing direct instruction from scripture.

Edit: Some people are denying their existence. It's pretty clear to see.
I am not opposed to it but people do use such titles pretty carelessly, just because I had a different view about a certain scripture I was called a false teacher just because I had a dream that I didn't understand and came here for advice I was called a false prophet also I have seen people label each other with these titles much more than I have seen fellow Christians call each other brother or sister.
I haven't met anyone who denies these people exist but I am sure such people do exist
 

ForthAngel

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I am not opposed to it but people do use such titles pretty carelessly, just because I had a different view about a certain scripture I was called a false teacher just because I had a dream that I didn't understand and came here for advice I was called a false prophet also I have seen people label each other with these titles much more than I have seen fellow Christians call each other brother or sister.
I haven't met anyone who denies these people exist but I am sure such people do exist
I understand where you are coming from Blain. I've seen some of the mistreatment you have personally suffered here in the past and in no way condone it.

The focus of this thread is not targeted at those seeking Christ. It's targeted at malicious men who make a living off fleecing people and who are very well known for perverting the grace of God, His Gospel, and His Word. These men have been at it for a long time and have spawned apostate churches all over the world that millions flock to daily.
 
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Therein lies the rub....false hood to you can be different then someone else. .take "speaking in tongues".. there are people that think it is of the devil because it has passed away in their mind.. and thus they are called false teachers that teach on praying in tongues..so your argument has no merit on it's own.. sorry..
Truth is absolute. You're just advocating postmodern relativism where everyone has their own truth that no one else is allowed to question.
 
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ember

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Ahem...if I may...

The criteria for flinging an accusation of false anything around these here parts is a subjective one at best...

For example, I would state that John MacArthur is a false teacher because he is a cessationist

You disagreed in another thread and I was not able to continue the discussion at the time

You can state that teaching what is not in the Bible or twisting what is in the Bible is a false teacher but I am convinced that cessationists are not teaching the truth...They are interpreting and believe they are correct even though scripture disagrees with them

I find plenty of bias throughout these forums and some folks believe they dont need teachers...its just them and their Bible correcting everyone who does not agree 100% with them

I dont know you well enough so dont take that personally please

Benny Hinn on the other hand can be proven to be a false prophet....he's made many so called prophecies that never come to pass

That is objectively true.....however disagreeing with a major part of the NT is also blatantly false
 
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ember

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Stating truth is absolute is only evidence if you are God and know all truth or you ARE the truth

Otherwise its just background noise and a perfect example of subjective reasoning

Disagreeing over interpretation is not proof either....further, twisting what another poster writes is basically untruthful and God is not confused over our intent even if we manage to fool every single other person in the world but the person whose statement we wish to disprove by any means

But we would not want to do that...unless we do it so often our conscience no longer bothers us

Keep a clean slate...God keeps good records!
 
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KennethC

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I've been here about four years now. I've been involved in several threads where they have openly defended the people in the video and many others like them. Again. Why are you opposed to this thread?
Because as you see his hatred toward others has blinded him to what these people are actually saying to him.

I have tried multiple times with E.G. to tell my stance, yet he still goes about and spreads lies about me.

I have put him on ignore and even took him off to give him another chance, to no avail so back on ignore he went !!!