Watching "Un-christian Porn" - protect your heart

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
P

popeye

Guest
What about someone filled with malice towards a brother..they die saturated in these so-called demons

Is that winked at by God?

As I said..this thread is not for this purpose....you are free to go start one if you have undying answers to the different kinds of sins and how they relate to God's winking prowess...
My posts Specifically address the op.

You have specifically dodged,as in this post
 
P

phil112

Guest
My posts Specifically address the op.

You have specifically dodged,as in this post
Maybe he has you on ignore. He seems to be proud that he does that to avoid people that bring bible to the table..like me.
 
Nov 12, 2015
9,112
823
113
Yes, well pride is something He deals with all of us on at times.
 
P

popeye

Guest
What about someone filled with malice towards a brother..they die saturated in these so-called demons

Is that winked at by God?

As I said..this thread is not for this purpose....you are free to go start one if you have undying answers to the different kinds of sins and how they relate to God's winking prowess...
BTW,the word says "liars" and" gluttons" will not enter heaven.

It also says" some are saved as through fire....they arrive,but their works are burned up"

Seems to me Osaa is in contradiction to both of these.
 
P

popeye

Guest
Maybe he has you on ignore. He seems to be proud that he does that to avoid people that bring bible to the table..like me.
Could be

My line of questioning is to understand his take on osas in the arena of a believer filled with antichrist demons,porn.

It could be that Jesus would burn it out of them at their untimely death. It is not my call.

My point is,I can think that for myself,or believe in Santa,and I hurt only myself.

But,to me,to teach that to others,is teaching them to shoot the dice,look at porn,and all is covered under "grace"
 
P

popeye

Guest
.... And why "unchristian"?

Is it to imply that porn and sins of omission fall into a " wink,wink,gotcha covered" basket to be thrown out daily?

I babe in Christ could,I am sure,get away with a lot.
A mature beliver would have to trample down his own walk with Jesus to live so loosely.
 
Sep 4, 2012
14,424
692
113
Could be

My line of questioning is to understand his take on osas in the arena of a believer filled with antichrist demons,porn.
If he is like others who believe the lawless version of 'grace', then such a believer will be saved. Heck, there's even one here who thinks that a believer can commit apostasy and still be saved.
 
Dec 1, 2014
9,701
252
0
if you believe in this HYPER-GRACE doctrine cant you watch all the porn you want with no consequences?

after all they believe God forgives future sins before it even is committed. so really, if you believe that, then porn is ok for you to watch because you are being cleansed by the blood while your watching it, right?
Romans 5 and 6 address this quite well.
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
The scriptures have admonished in several places to watch what goes into our hearts. The gateways into our hearts are what we hear and what we see.

There have been many complaints of people being personally attacked because their beliefs were different then the attackers. This seems to be a common occurrence. Disagreements will always be with us here on this earth as we all see in part and know it part.

Slander, bitterness and malice are common place and to see believers doing this to other believers is just as deadly as watching porn. When I see the typing of such malicious words on here , it is defiling us to have to view this on our screens. This is why I call it watching "Un-christian Porn".

How do we protect our hearts from the garbage that is being sent to us through our eyes while on this site?

Matthew 18:15-17 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

If the person keeps on spewing garbage to you then ask them to stop and if they don't then just put them on the "ignore" status. This is what unfortunately I have had to do to a few that persisted in their malice. There is a way to disagree without attacking - personally the person, the name-calling, the bitterness being expressed and manifesting hate filled malice towards your brother or sister.

Ephesians 4:29-32 (NASB)
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice
.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.


I encourage you to protect your heart and stop watching this "Un-christian Porn " being brought in to you through your eyes.....just put the offending people on "ignore" if they continue with their malice towards you. Just "shake the dust off your feet" towards them.

Bless them and leave them in the loving hands of our Lord. He will love on them. He will be faithful to them.

Send them off with the words of Paul...

Acts 20:32 (NASB)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] "And now I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified.


Proverbs 4:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.



Side note: If you are manifesting what has been addressed above and I don't respond to you it's probably because I have heeded my own counsel.
In the years I have been on CC I have never put anybody on ignore. But I am taking you're advice and have now put 5 or 6 of the Grace PLUS works people on ignore. Not just because I find that doctrine highly offensive, but almost to a person they come off as angry, bitter, unloving, and self-righteous. I used to see their names and just stroll right by what they had to say, but every once in awhile I got caught up with their dissensions.

I truly feel sorry for these people, and some I think are just confused, but I'm going to let the Lord work on them, which I'm praying will free up my Spirit to spread uplifting, refreshment and the love of Christ to more people.

May the Grace of our precious Lord bless you all.
 
Dec 1, 2014
9,701
252
0
In the years I have been on CC I have never put anybody on ignore. But I am taking you're advice and have now put 5 or 6 of the Grace PLUS works people on ignore. Not just because I find that doctrine highly offensive, but almost to a person they come off as angry, bitter, unloving, and self-righteous. I used to see their names and just stroll right by what they had to say, but every once in awhile I got caught up with their dissensions.

I truly feel sorry for these people, and some I think are just confused, but I'm going to let the Lord work on them, which I'm praying will free up my Spirit to spread uplifting, refreshment and the love of Christ to more people.

May the Grace of our precious Lord bless you all.
Outstanding post, my Brother. You share great insight that IMO is spot on accurate and more importantly you share it with heartfelt love as well. It doesn't get any better than that. You reflect God's love in an amazing way. God bless you!
 

Goodnewsman

Senior Member
Jan 4, 2016
710
102
43
if the bible you read tells you that you can watch pornography in Romans 5&6 my advice is this:

take it to church sunday and throw it on the floor and let them pick it up with the rest of the trash

or you could do your pastor a favor and throw it away with the rest of the trash at your house.[

QUOTE=Utah;2462753]Romans 5 and 6 address this quite well.[/QUOTE]
 

Goodnewsman

Senior Member
Jan 4, 2016
710
102
43
UN-Christian Porn?????????

what is your idea of "Christian porn????"

what's next a "Heavenly Devil"????
 
K

KennethC

Guest
Yes, because we all know the purpose of a forum supposedly about Christianity is to endless gab about each other.
The NT is full of warnings to believers on how they can not act/walk, as the actions of a person clearly define if that person is abiding in Christ or not.

We are not called to sit back and let our fellow brothers and sisters in the faith walk in ways that is contradictory to the Word of God.

If we allow that leaven to take place then others who are weak in the faith might follow suit and think those improper actions are okay to do. This will lead them to ruin as a weak brother or sister can still perish......1 Corinthians 8:11
 
K

KennethC

Guest
Oh come on! Put on your big boy pants!
You just called a lot of people on here wolves, so look at what YOU yourself are doing. You have just slandered a lot in here in one fell swoop.
Slander is when you make up a lie about another person, not when you state a fact !!!


Your Lord didn't defend Himself even when they pounded nails into Him. When we did that to Him, we were definitely in the wrong. So how exactly are you living as He lived by being so concerned that men honor you and show you respect?
Jesus didn't defend Himself because He came to fulfill the prophecy of dying on the cross for our sins, if He defended Himself or let the Apostles defend Him then the prophecy would not have been fulfilled !!!

We must take and put things in proper context as to what was going on, and the bible is full of examples of defending oneself and others !!!
 
P

popeye

Guest
Better question would be " After receiving salvation and becoming born again through grace only,how vile can a believer get with sin,before he separates himself as the prodigal did"

"then,upon separation,as with the prodigal,is repentance necessary,or just skip it since we can not possibly be unborn"

I know of nobody anywhere preaching initial salvation as works plus grace in the circles I associate in.

I believe we ad believers are judged in this life,not the next one.

I believe some will and have departed from the faith

I believe some believers that ate into vile sin will mot get a wink and a handshake upon their demise.
 
Last edited:
K

KennethC

Guest
Oh come on! Put on your big boy pants!
You just called a lot of people on here wolves, so look at what YOU yourself are doing. You have just slandered a lot in here in one fell swoop.
Your Lord didn't defend Himself even when they pounded nails into Him. When we did that to Him, we were definitely in the wrong. So how exactly are you living as He lived by being so concerned that men honor you and show you respect?
Better question would be " After receiving salvation and becoming born again through grace only,how vile can a believer get with sin,before he separates himself as the prodigal did"

"then,upon separation,as with the prodigal,is repentance necessary,or just skip it since we can not possibly be unborn"

I know of nobody anywhere preaching initial salvation as works plus grace in the circles I associate in.

I believe we ad believers are judged in this life,not the next one.

I believe some will and have departed from the faith

I believe some believers that ate into vile sin will mot get a wink and a handshake upon their demise.

What I have seen on here popeye when it comes to these debates is those who deny what the bible says about many will depart from the faith is they focus to much on two topic's:

1) Born again...........(They put to much emphasis on this and use the whole straw-man you can't be unborn.)

2) Works.........(They focus to much on the works and thus use this straw-man that we must then have to earn.)

Both are faulty argument stances that I have tried for a year now to get people to look at the wrongful approach both of these arguments present.

Born again does not save no more then works save, baptism does not save no more then repentance saves, and so forth.............

We need to as believers stop looking at the individual things that are all part of the salvation process in Christ, and focus on the 1 part that really saves.............Faith in Christ !!!

Without that FAITH everything else is useless filthy rags, and the Word of God shows that eternal security only exists to those who abide in Christ.

Those who do not abide in Christ there is no security of receiving eternal life, but I have seen some on here who have said those who don't abide, fallen away, departed, and/or went apostate are still saved in Christ !!!

How can a person be saved if they have no faith in Him ??? Can't !!!
 
P

popeye

Guest
Is porn covered under grace?
 

prove-all

Senior Member
May 16, 2014
5,977
400
83
63
yes watch out for the U.S.A.

porn capital of the world

more profits then any sports franchise
 
K

KennethC

Guest
Is porn covered under grace?
Just like all other sins it can be forgiven if repented of, however this goes into a whole other debate because some on here think repentance is just going from unbelief to belief !!!

When repentance is a change of mind that leads to stop walking in those sinful ways to then start walking in Christ's righteousness !!!