The Trump is terrible thread...

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dalconn

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That would be great if Trump's "Donald J. Trump Foundation" wasn't used to buy Trump for favors.
I'm not aware Trump has ever been in politics but I have heard of the Clinton Foundation....where is the outrage? If your facts are correct then why aren't the republican candidates making this an issue?
 
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dalconn

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If that's the case, then we shouldn't vote?
The Apostle Paul exercised his roman citizen rights without entangling himself in this worlds affairs
 
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dalconn

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What do you think G-d thinks of Trump? Also, what do you think G-d thinks of Ben Carson?
What do you think God thinks about Obama? God's going to give us a leader that we deserve be it good or evil.

Psalm 75:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]As for me, I will declare this forever;
I will sing praise to the God of Jacob,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]who says, “I will cut off the horns of all the wicked,
but the horns of the righteous will be lifted up.”
 

Calmador

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This video might help you better understand the success of Trumps campaign

[video=youtube;PJy8vTu66tE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJy8vTu66tE[/video]
I just watched the video. I don't think his points were conclusive.

About money, he shot himself in the foot by saying half of the money is given by the rest. Also, money doesn't change the issues. No matter how many commercials I'll see of Hillary Clinton's... those commercials... that money... isn't going to make me in a liberal democrat.

I'd have to see the studies he showed and how they were done. They'd have to take account in how we elect congressmen... and then they push issues for us. I'm not sure about it... we just saw a graph.

Also, those communities look really messed up. But, how many of those are there? If it's a few communities that are like that... it could just be some other reason other than corruption. If it's many communities then we should be more suspicions. Now, I doubt 89 million Americans are not represented because of those awkward communities. Him going from those awkward communities to 89 million Americans not being represented looks like a trick his playing on his audience. The simple truth that when we vote the majority wins is one reason why some or most of the 89 million Americans are not represented. Why did he use the awkward communities then? I believe he used it to make it sensational.... rhetoric... then he moved unto a point... a much bigger point, 89 million Americans not being represented which didn't exactly follow. Red hearing fallacy I think?

Again on 89 million not being represented. Considering that the majority wins. There will ALWAYS be the minority that won't be represented. I'm not politics or constitutional expert, but I believe there was a way minorities were made heard by something.

If not, maybe this is why we should give more power to the states... which could make communities of those minorities liking and they'd live in an environment more towards their liking.

About equality... I'm pretty sure equality by the constitution isn't about how rich or poor you are, but about your rights... like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to own property... etc.

The idea that because someone is rich... vs someone is poor... is inequality is not constitutional. I doubt the founding fathers wanted everyone to be ABSOLUTELY equal in every way possible. That's communism. If that's what they wanted... then we'd be that from the beginning... we'd all be communist.
 
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Can we have a slot on the ballot for none of the above?
 
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Calmador

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I'm not aware Trump has ever been in politics but I have heard of the Clinton Foundation....where is the outrage? If your facts are correct then why aren't the republican candidates making this an issue?

I didn't know about the foundation until recently. Speaking of the Clinton Foundation, Trump donated to them as-well.

It could be strategy to not talk about Trump's shady foundation. They may easily focus on more efficient things such as Trump's past with democrats? Why give a light jab when you can give a strong hook? The issue with Trump's foundation isn't as strong. Still... you say he can't be bought... but its happened.

But, like I said before and as it stands CRYSTAL CLEAR. Trump is NOT a man of character... why... trust... him?

Donald Trump Says He Can't Be Bought. His Record Suggests He Can.
 

Calmador

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What do you think God thinks about Obama? God's going to give us a leader that we deserve be it good or evil.

Psalm 75:9-10
[SUP]9 [/SUP]As for me, I will declare this forever;
I will sing praise to the God of Jacob,
[SUP]10 [/SUP]who says, “I will cut off the horns of all the wicked,
but the horns of the righteous will be lifted up.”

That being said, we don't have to get what we deserve.

We can look towards G-d and humble ourselves and G-d will be gracious with us. If we ask for Obama we might get Obama... if we ask for Trump whom is CLEARLY not a man of character... we might get Trump.
 
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dalconn

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People have written that in, in addition to Mickey Mouse and Elvis.
Umm...didn't that first write-in candidate you mentioned get elected to the white house in 2008? :cool:
 

Calmador

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The Apostle Paul exercised his roman citizen rights without entangling himself in this worlds affairs
Where's the line according to you?

I think the line is when we look to glorify G-d and seek G-dly purposes. I'm into this because we as a people need G-dly leaders. It benefits us.
 
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dalconn

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That being said, we don't have to get what we deserve.

We can look towards G-d and humble ourselves and G-d will be gracious with us.
Humble ourselves as in allowing perverts to marry? cutting children from the womb? leading the world porn production? oppressing the use of God in public forums? I'm all ears for hearing how the USA is going to line up with righteousness
 

Calmador

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Humble ourselves as in allowing perverts to marry? cutting children from the womb? leading the world porn production? oppressing the use of God in public forums? I'm all ears for hearing how the USA is going to line up with righteousness
I happen to be conservative!!

I'm against same-sex marriage. I'm against abortion. I'm against pornography. I'm against people not being allowed to us G-d in public forums.

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Not to mention, I've heard Trump use to be FOR some of those things...

I'm at a loss of words...
 
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Trump is a double agent.
He presents himself as a Republican while trashing the Republican party at every chance he gets
I'm conservative and I trash the Republican party every chance I get. It needs to be done. There nothing but a bunch of damn sellouts.
 
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I happen to be conservative!!

I'm against same-sex marriage. I'm against abortion. I'm against pornography. I'm against people not being allowed to us G-d in public forums.

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Not to mention, I've heard Trump use to be FOR some of those things...

I'm at a loss of words...
And we have people who snort coke, whore around, steal, who become Christians. So what you are saying is if you did any bad stuff or believed a certain way you can never change..
 
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Mitspa

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Its time for someone like Trump...the establishment folks have proven they are willing to destroy us and sell us out... If Trump is horrible, he would be better than the bunch that have been in power...
 
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so riddle me this batman, who has sold out this nation through corruption over the years? the democrats or the republicans?
I thought it was Big Business & lobbyists.:rolleyes:
 
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