Why the king james?

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JaumeJ

JaumeJ

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Generations were born, raised and passed on as brethren in Christ using the text of the KJV only, while learning by the Holy Spirit. Most of my formal church education was KJV. I love the KJV, but it is not necessary for anyone to read it to be in the Holy Spirit while reading, learning, and growing using any other version.

You see, our Father knows how to save us no matter what version we read. Actually, if God wants to, He will give one the truth from Mother Goose, though I would not go to her for Biblical truth.

Live and allow others. Anyone who knows Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior can only know this by the Holy Spirit, as is written.

Do not fret about others reading a version other than the one the Lord uses for you, believe me, He is using the others aso.

Blessed be the entire family in Jesus Christ today and forever, amen.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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John146 said:
How do I teach Psalm 12:6-7 to my son? John 17:17? Matthew 4:4? Only what's necessary for salvation? Surely there is more. So the Holy Spirit tells you as your reading your Bible, "That verse you can trust, but that one you can't."
Is that what you're getting at?

I need a perfect book, containing the pure words of God in order for the Holy Spirit to teach me.
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It's not the "book" that's perfect -- it's the Word of God; the Commandments of God; Jesus Christ.

On "How do I teach to my son...", teach your son to read -- the H.S. will do the rest.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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No, I understand what you're saying, was merely offering a view that one can hold the King James preeminent in a reasoned way.
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And in this, I agree with you 100 %,, I am this way with my NKJV.. I use it for most of my studies.. It has never let me down, if I have a question, I always revert to origional text to see the greek or hebrew, and what the words actually mean and how they were used.. Which we all should do to get the deeper meaning.
 
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PeacefulWarrior

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JaumeJ said:
Generations were born, raised and passed on as brethren in Christ using the text of the KJV only, while learning by the Holy Spirit. Most of my formal church education was KJV. I love the KJV, but it is not necessary for anyone to read it to be in the Holy Spirit while reading, learning, and growing using any other version.

You see, our Father knows how to save us no matter what version we read. Actually, if God wants to, He will give one the truth from Mother Goose, though I would not go to her for Biblical truth.

Live and allow others. Anyone who knows Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior can only know this by the Holy Spirit, as is written.

Do not fret about others reading a version other than the one the Lord uses for you, believe me, He is using the others aso.

Blessed be the entire family in Jesus Christ today and forever, amen.
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Amen. Good stuff y'all. Hope ya have a blessed day!
 
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John146

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God wrote the original Ten Commandments with His own hand, and yet moments later, Moses destroyed them. God did not panic because the original had been lost, he simply preserved the Ten Commandments by making a copy. If God thought the originals was that important, we would have them today. We don't. What we have is God's preserved words. God did it. Not man. God is responsible for preserving his words.


dcontroversal said:
Are you out of your mind....he used Alexander the Great to Hellinize the known world and then had the N.T written in common Greek and then killed the language...the more you speak the more obvious it is that you are grasping at straws because of indictrination into this KJ only crew......seriously..cannot believe you said that...wow. I will also add....Gid did not inspire false teachers to give his word....Holy Men spake....Episcopals are not holy men!
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Gr8grace

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John146 said:
God wrote the original Ten Commandments with His own hand, and yet moments later, Moses destroyed them. God did not panic because the original had been lost, he simply preserved the Ten Commandments by making a copy. If God thought the originals was that important, we would have them today. We don't. What we have is God's preserved words. God did it. Not man. God is responsible for preserving his words.
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If the translators themselves cautioned the readers to use other translations to better their understanding of the scriptures.............they obviously didn't think that they were inspired.

When did it come about that they found out that they were inspired?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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John146 said:
God wrote the original Ten Commandments with His own hand, and yet moments later, Moses destroyed them. God did not panic because the original had been lost, he simply preserved the Ten Commandments by making a copy. If God thought the originals was that important, we would have them today. We don't. What we have is God's preserved words. God did it. Not man. God is responsible for preserving his words.
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that only works if God made a copy.. Since the origional ten we assume were written in Hebrew, Only a hebrew copy would be considered a copy. To make it even in the greek would be to interpret it, which is not a copy..
 
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John146

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Exactly, so I'm trusting that God preserved for us His words. Our God can do that. He hold us responsible for knowing His word. If we don't have it, what are we responsible for?


eternally-gratefull said:
that only works if God made a copy.. Since the origional ten we assume were written in Hebrew, Only a hebrew copy would be considered a copy. To make it even in the greek would be to interpret it, which is not a copy..
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eternally-gratefull

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John146 said:
Exactly, so I'm trusting that God preserved for us His words. Our God can do that. He hold us responsible for knowing His word. If we don't have it, what are we responsible for?
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Exactly.

So he kept his word pure, in the languages he meant to write it in, so we can not be confused by the flaws of other languages.

We have copies of those text. The rest are interpretations, and should be handled as such.
 
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Complete_In_Him

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JesusIsAll said:
And word changes or omissions in some translations are disturbing, so many that serve to reduce the deity of Jesus Christ or the likes of even omitting the word blood. This pattern of diminution in many changes can't be ignored, so I'm happy to stick with the King James, trust the King James most, my reasons thus and having nothing to do with some cult.
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Smiling, I agree. Amen and Amen.
 
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Complete_In_Him

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JesusIsAll said:
No, I understand what you're saying, was merely offering a view that one can hold the King James preeminent in a reasoned way.
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That's right. Thank goodness you entered the topic, because yesterday I thought good lord I am afraid of this thread it is just awful. I choose to use the kjbible only, because I see the excellency and I do not worship the kjbible, wow.
 
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Complete_In_Him said:
Smiling, I agree. Amen and Amen.
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There's no real evidence anybody invented a better mouse trap, or would that be a sinner trap? "Thanks, but think I'll just stick with round wheels."
 
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JesusIsAll

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Complete_In_Him said:
That's right. Thank goodness you entered the topic, because yesterday I thought good lord I am afraid of this thread it is just awful. I choose to use the kjbible only, because I see the excellency and I do not worship the kjbible, wow.
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Must be a good day, then, that I'm not part of what's awful in the thread. Am I losing my touch?
 
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John146

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The Greek language is perfect? Or God is perfect? If God can give us His word in Greek, He can give us His perfect pure words in English or any other language. God can overcome imperfections, I'm living proof.


eternally-gratefull said:
Exactly.

So he kept his word pure, in the languages he meant to write it in, so we can not be confused by the flaws of other languages.

We have copies of those text. The rest are interpretations, and should be handled as such.
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dcontroversal

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Flawed logic here.....and what language did he write them in......and with Moses carrying them down to the people to read it can be logically deduced it was HEBREW....
REGARDLESS...Does not change the fact of what languages it was orginally written in.....you should study because the bible teaches to bave no IDOL IN YOUR LIFE.....WORSHIPPING A MAN MADE, COPIED, TRANSLITERATION IS HAVING AN IDOL!



John146 said:
God wrote the original Ten Commandments with His own hand, and yet moments later, Moses destroyed them. God did not panic because the original had been lost, he simply preserved the Ten Commandments by making a copy. If God thought the originals was that important, we would have them today. We don't. What we have is God's preserved words. God did it. Not man. God is responsible for preserving his words.
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Gr8grace

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John146 said:
The Greek language is perfect? Or God is perfect? If God can give us His word in Greek, He can give us His perfect pure words in English or any other language. God can overcome imperfections, I'm living proof.
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John146, what is your take on this quote.......

The KJV translators to the reader in the Preface to 1611 version........

"Therefore as S. Augustine saith, that variety of Translations is profitable for the finding out of the sense of the Scriptures: so diversity of signification and sense in the margin, where the text is no so clear, must needs do good, yea, is necessary, as we are persuaded."
 
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