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A few thoughts.
1. Not everyone here is Christian. There alot of enemies of God in here who need shown the truth, inspite of their hardheartedness, There is one gospel, And that must be stood for, there is zero tolerance for going astray from thet one gospel.
2. There are other topics (like end times, rapture, etc etc) that your right, we should be aloud to discuss and disagree, bt we get out of hand sometimes, and start fighting, Which brings us to the third point.
3. We are human, Pride is a hard thing to break. All of us struggle with it, and because of it, Number 2 is bound to occure from time to time..
Hope this helps
1. Not everyone here is Christian. There alot of enemies of God in here who need shown the truth, inspite of their hardheartedness, There is one gospel, And that must be stood for, there is zero tolerance for going astray from thet one gospel.
2. There are other topics (like end times, rapture, etc etc) that your right, we should be aloud to discuss and disagree, bt we get out of hand sometimes, and start fighting, Which brings us to the third point.
3. We are human, Pride is a hard thing to break. All of us struggle with it, and because of it, Number 2 is bound to occure from time to time..
Hope this helps
There is a truth in what you say, but the unfortunate thing is often people hide their response it an overflow of information and do not address the issue at all, because they deny the premise logic matters.
Also people read different things into the same verses so quoting them does not work.
Equally some do not believe in the principles of discussion. I was called by one person using humanistic arguments as if that was like a crime. I have argued with muslims who tried the same tactics, but I do not expect this from people who believe in truth above all else. Some claim the name christian but have abandoned this principle unfortunately.
Also people read different things into the same verses so quoting them does not work.
Equally some do not believe in the principles of discussion. I was called by one person using humanistic arguments as if that was like a crime. I have argued with muslims who tried the same tactics, but I do not expect this from people who believe in truth above all else. Some claim the name christian but have abandoned this principle unfortunately.
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This is another common thing done using the examples from Jesus !!!
Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for corrupting His word, and called them hypocrites because they forced others to do things they themselves did not do !!!
This in no way showed we have the right to go around and belittle, make demeaning comments, back-bite, and pass all sorts of false accusations on others because of disagreements !!!
If we take Jesus rebuking of the Pharisees as giving us the right to treat others badly we are dead wrong !!!
Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for corrupting His word, and called them hypocrites because they forced others to do things they themselves did not do !!!
This in no way showed we have the right to go around and belittle, make demeaning comments, back-bite, and pass all sorts of false accusations on others because of disagreements !!!
If we take Jesus rebuking of the Pharisees as giving us the right to treat others badly we are dead wrong !!!
Check Matt. 23. You don't have to wear a religious robe and sandals to think like a Pharisee. As you read this chapter, think 'church' as you go. Hopefully it will serve to scare the Pharisee out of you if any religious residue lingers within.
I went most of my life not knowing that one ear was slightly lower than the other. Looked in the mirror a million times, never knew. Then I got glasses and the guy fitting them for me told me. So I looked a little closer. He was right.
I went most of my life not knowing that one ear was slightly lower than the other. Looked in the mirror a million times, never knew. Then I got glasses and the guy fitting them for me told me. So I looked a little closer. He was right.
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(psssst.......psssst......Texas?.......methinks, is gonna take sumpin a mite more larger then an unprocessed french fry chucker ......jez sayin')
......jez sayin')
C
Txroads,
God is kind to evil people and allows them to grow up around us because removing them might damage what He wants to accomplish in your life and it might damage your view of God because some people might not understand but God is going to deal with the evil one day and they can be on His side by their choice or they can be removed by their choice.
I believe in treating people with gentleness and respect but God cares more about you than those who would not tell you the truth and therefore God says to fight:
Jude 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Because I belong to God, believing what everyone says is not how I want to live my life because some people are wrong and they will mislead others to go to hell. Someone who is living their life the way they want to live and those who are going to hell aren't the long term friendships that will benefit anyone.
Chuck
God is kind to evil people and allows them to grow up around us because removing them might damage what He wants to accomplish in your life and it might damage your view of God because some people might not understand but God is going to deal with the evil one day and they can be on His side by their choice or they can be removed by their choice.
I believe in treating people with gentleness and respect but God cares more about you than those who would not tell you the truth and therefore God says to fight:
Jude 1:3 ¶ Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Because I belong to God, believing what everyone says is not how I want to live my life because some people are wrong and they will mislead others to go to hell. Someone who is living their life the way they want to live and those who are going to hell aren't the long term friendships that will benefit anyone.
Chuck
Your not in the wrong, so many times I have tried to still the waters to remind everyone that we are called to love and that all this senseless arguing is only glorifying satan not God but people don't really care they just want to argue and debate they only prove the world right in them thinking we Christians are liars hypocrites judgmental bible thumpers cold eyed finger pointers.
In all honesty I am beginning to wonder if I should just stop trying, in their pointing their fingers in their attempts to to hurt each other on these forums I am the one who is hurt the most.
Seeing all this war with each other seeing the lack of love seeing us Christians attacking mocking condemning each other makes me incredibly sad inside it actually hurts inside too. Maybe the reason why it's so sad and why it hurts so much is because of how much I care and love everyone here because deep inside I want the body of Christ to not be broken anymore because I want the love of God the warmth and peace of his spirit presence to reign and be alive in our hearts not this addiction of heated debates not this pointing fingers this holier than thou attitude I have seen so much on these forums.
Jesus knew more than anyone- Love hurts
In all honesty I am beginning to wonder if I should just stop trying, in their pointing their fingers in their attempts to to hurt each other on these forums I am the one who is hurt the most.
Seeing all this war with each other seeing the lack of love seeing us Christians attacking mocking condemning each other makes me incredibly sad inside it actually hurts inside too. Maybe the reason why it's so sad and why it hurts so much is because of how much I care and love everyone here because deep inside I want the body of Christ to not be broken anymore because I want the love of God the warmth and peace of his spirit presence to reign and be alive in our hearts not this addiction of heated debates not this pointing fingers this holier than thou attitude I have seen so much on these forums.
Jesus knew more than anyone- Love hurts
J
Very well said. And the make nice ploy is a tactic to deflect legitimate criticism that exposes liars and their lies. When bankrupt or the light is shining too brightly in that dark corner, attack the messenger. There are veritable Satanic creeps out there who are trying to tell all Christendom that intoleration of anything isn't Christ-like, while they lie out of both sides of their smiley mouths, strewing flowers on the path to damnation. They "love" everybody alright, straight into hell.
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For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
(2Co 11:13-15)
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
(2Co 11:13-15)
Blain, you are a young sensitive man. There are some serious hard ass people who have gone through a lot.
The problem is religion gets the steamer going, and putting it right is the mission of quite a few.
So no, you just have to put up with this confused crazy world, because until Jesus returns, many will say, I know Jesus and you have a demon, and I am just not going to let that terrible evil get away. That is what Saul did, and funnily the only people I know who are hauling this flag now are actually "hyper-grace" people which is ironic.
The problem is religion gets the steamer going, and putting it right is the mission of quite a few.
So no, you just have to put up with this confused crazy world, because until Jesus returns, many will say, I know Jesus and you have a demon, and I am just not going to let that terrible evil get away. That is what Saul did, and funnily the only people I know who are hauling this flag now are actually "hyper-grace" people which is ironic.