It's exactly the same thing, you just don;t want to admit it. Touching yourself to the point of spilling seed in a Kleenex, a tube sock , the floor or the shower drain is exactly the same as chewing your fingernails or picking your nose - a filthy habit.
Now, maybe I speak from a different position because I am not a slave to my impulses and I haven't touched myself like a pervert in over 20 years, but what does that really matter? Masturbation is disgusting. It's shameful. It demonstrates that men have no willpower over their hormones, and that is really sad..especially from guys who think they are so tough or strong. Not having control over one's hormones means you're a weakling. A sissy. A girly boy. I feel sorry for men who have to arm wrestle themselves in private to the point of orgasm. I wish they had some kind of strength. But, we men can't all be the same, and a lot of you are just betas.