The Affliction Of Conspiracy Theorists

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Lynx

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Uh... you accused me of saying the exact opposite of what I said. You apparently didn't read what I said very well.

But then I gather that is common in these forums.
 
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To the OP: There is another reason for conspiracy theories. In the words of Randall Monroe, xkcd artist, "Really, the comforting side in most conspiracy theory arguments is the one claiming that anyone in power has any plan at all." In other words people like to believe conspiracy theories because it is better than facing the reality that "The People In Power" are just normal people who are mostly doing their jobs the best they can in a crazy world. Conspiracy theories are a lot less scary than the truth. If you realize the fate of the nation rests in the hands of people who are just average, normal people then you start not wanting to leave the safety of underneath your bed.
They are "just normal people" --- whose minds and hearts are exceedingly greedy and 'bent' towards doing evil...

Your seeming suggestion that a / the / any country / nation cannot be successfully run by "normal" people is a CROCK of CRAP -- and shows just how much your mind has been "taken captive" by the 'elites' - who seem to have convinced you thoroughly that only the 'elite' can run a country / nation --- that is what 'they' want you to think.

I would much rather the country be run by - good - honest - moral - "average normal" [ preferably Christian ] folks than - evil - dishonest - immoral - 'elite' [ Satan-worshiping ] folks --- ANY AND EVERY DAY!

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Uh... you accused me of saying the exact opposite of what I said. You apparently didn't read what I said very well.

But then I gather that is common in these forums.
You are correct. I did - in part - misread the intent of your statement.

Still -- your statement does seem to suggest [ what I said it did ].

I totally disagree with this statement. Anyone who truly believes this is not living in reality.

This does not 'scare' me -- in fact, I prefer it over the 'other' option.


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GaryA

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Still -- your statement does seem to suggest [ what I said it did ].
The idea behind your statement comes from elitist propagandist thinking. ;)
 

Dude653

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Conspiracy theories are one of my biggest pet peeves. People read conspiracy theories on the Internet and because it agrees with their preconceived notions and biases then therefore it must be true. All you had to do was put something in a meme and people will believe it. And then when you show people clear and concise evidence that debunks their conspiracy theories, they say your evidence is a conspiracy
 
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Conspiracy theories are one of my biggest pet peeves. People read conspiracy theories on the Internet and because it agrees with their preconceived notions and biases then therefore it must be true. All you had to do was put something in a meme and people will believe it. And then when you show people clear and concise evidence that debunks their conspiracy theories, they say your evidence is a conspiracy
HI, Question, what is a conspiracy theory? If you and I disagree on a subject, which one is the conspiracy theorist?

In any big plan, there is a long period of setting it up. Only people that know what is going on have any interest in it, and is relatively not known about. Then just before it can be implemented, the public may start becoming aware about it, and shortly after that, it is being done publicly.

In the short time between planning and implementation is critical for its authors. This is the time that people can find out whats going on and can have SOME influence on its becoming reality. If you would actually study a little on the NWO, you would find they are near implementing it.
The good thing about the NWO conspiracy is that it will never really become implemented. The bible explains everything about it. The "tower of babel" was mans attempt to have a new world order, and God destroyed it prior to its completion, and God will destroy it again now when it almost gets to completion.
God is the ruler of this earth, and HE will not allow any other "being" to assume that title.

There is nothing new under the sun. Its just a few (the 1%) that are going to wreck everything for the rest of us because God will untimately destroy it completely. This is how God implements the parable of "the wheat and the tares" Check it out in Matthew, God is seperating the good from the bad. It explains the entire purpose of us being in flesh bodies here on earth.

have a good day...allan
 

Freesoul

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I have been convinced by the wordly wisemen here that all conspiracies are false. I will trust the official story from now on, and not question anything. Thats what the Bible teaches anyway. Its well known in the Bible that the majority are right all the time and the path is wide to salvation. Now I can relax more easily and stare zombified at some good ole programming on t.v
 

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Here's a list of events followed by the percentage of Americans who believe the government suppressed information about it.

Sandy Hook School Shooting - 15%

Boston Marathon Bombings - 19%

Oklahoma City Bombing - 20%

Pearl Harbor - 22%

TWA Flight 800 Crash - 24%

Bobby Kennedy Assassination - 30%

Martin Luther King Assassination - 34%

Benghazi US Embassy Attack - 39%

9/11 - 41%

2013 Government Surveillance Scandal - 47%

Iraq Weapons Of Mass Destruction - 49%

Area 51 - 55%

Watergate - 55%

The Kennedy Assassination - 55%




To me, conspiracy theorists are like fat people, or gluttons. You see them near the donuts or in the ice cream isle at the grocery store or standing in line at the local Chinese buffet. Why? Because they are addicted to eating too much. Conspiracy theorists are also addicted. They have several conspiracy sites on their list of favorite web sites, and they go there every day to discover the latest conspiracy theory. It's not so important that they are coached by an expert or if the conspiracy has been debunked thoroughly, that doesn't matter. The thought of reading about it and telling others about it is like a big jelly donut to an obese glutton. Is it important or beneficial for rational people to tell a 400 pound person that he / she is eating way too much food? They already know they are fat. They can't fit in their car or tie their shoes. I'm guessing conspiracy nuts know they are hooked and addicted to all of this nonsense. I think the moderator knew this when he sequestered them on this particular forum, where they would be the least distraction to others. I'll just point out that you won't be taken seriously in other forums when it is discovered you post here and embrace conspiracy theories. I wish there was a Jenny Craig for conspiracy theorists, so we could toss you a life line. Life is short. There is still time to enjoy it. You can delete those web sites and start fresh. There will be people who will help you get through it.
It's called fear porn. There are plenty of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true. The other side of the coin is that at the dawn of radio and TV they quickly figured out that they couId turn us into consumers by telling us we need this or that new thing. We've been under a giant psyop since at least the 30's. And we are a gullible populace. So where is the balance?
 
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It's called fear porn. There are plenty of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true. The other side of the coin is that at the dawn of radio and TV they quickly figured out that they couId turn us into consumers by telling us we need this or that new thing. We've been under a giant psyop since at least the 30's. And we are a gullible populace. So where is the balance?
I understand why marketing people design commercials to get me to buy their products. I can choose to believe the ads or I can go to Consumer Reports and view the tests showing the reliability of each particular brand of car or toothpaste or yogurt or house paint and see which is the best.

That is worlds apart from seeking out some internet site where some complete kook tries to tell me aliens killed KFK or a missile struck the Pentagon or Jews blew up the WTC buildings. Those are conspiracy theories that cannot stand up to the least bit of evidence. On this very site, I pointed out the evidence surrounding the theory of a missile striking the Pentagon and as expected, the kooks who believe that conspiracy do not respond to the evidence, they wander off into yet another conspiracy, and then another. They seek out others who are just as disturbed as they are and embrace them and post "likes" each time that fellow conspiracy nut posts a message. They open their computers each day and view mostly sites where they are welcomed by fellow conspiracy nuts. They avoid debates with people who use logic and science to easily refute their false beliefs. They live in a world of make believe. They are mostly dysfunctional people on a social level, with limited friendships outside of the internet. They probably turn to cats and dogs for companionship. Some will post hundreds or thousands of times in a matter of weeks. This has become their purpose in life.

Tell me about this list of conspiracies proven to be true. Is it really a long list? Were they really conspiracies? I'm hoping you can see the difference between a criminal conspiracy as defined by the police, and conspiracy theories so utterly bizarre they defy logic and proven science. Realize there are a growing number of people on these forums in need of mental health treatment, and avoid enabling them to continue drifting further into psychosis.
 
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I understand why marketing people design commercials to get me to buy their products. I can choose to believe the ads or I can go to Consumer Reports and view the tests showing the reliability of each particular brand of car or toothpaste or yogurt or house paint and see which is the best.

That is worlds apart from seeking out some internet site where some complete kook tries to tell me aliens killed KFK or a missile struck the Pentagon or Jews blew up the WTC buildings. Those are conspiracy theories that cannot stand up to the least bit of evidence. On this very site, I pointed out the evidence surrounding the theory of a missile striking the Pentagon and as expected, the kooks who believe that conspiracy do not respond to the evidence, they wander off into yet another conspiracy, and then another. They seek out others who are just as disturbed as they are and embrace them and post "likes" each time that fellow conspiracy nut posts a message. They open their computers each day and view mostly sites where they are welcomed by fellow conspiracy nuts. They avoid debates with people who use logic and science to easily refute their false beliefs. They live in a world of make believe. They are mostly dysfunctional people on a social level, with limited friendships outside of the internet. They probably turn to cats and dogs for companionship. Some will post hundreds or thousands of times in a matter of weeks. This has become their purpose in life.

Tell me about this list of conspiracies proven to be true. Is it really a long list? Were they really conspiracies? I'm hoping you can see the difference between a criminal conspiracy as defined by the police, and conspiracy theories so utterly bizarre they defy logic and proven science. Realize there are a growing number of people on these forums in need of mental health treatment, and avoid enabling them to continue drifting further into psychosis.
Let's see...kooks, nuts, dysfunctional, cats and dogs for companionship, in need of mental health treatment, psychosis...you ever have anything nice to say about anybody?
 

Dude653

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9 11 conspiracy theories are all based on propaganda, fraudulent information and strawman arguments. I dont know how people still believe these ridiculous theories despite MOUNTAINS of evidence debunking them
 

un2him

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9 11 conspiracy theories are all based on propaganda, fraudulent information and strawman arguments. I dont know how people still believe these ridiculous theories despite MOUNTAINS of evidence debunking them
Why you bother being in here anyway? Are you a troll can't imagine any other reason for you to be in this topic. You have already made your choice.

There is far more information supporting this conspiracy. And if you were truly an American you would be outraged not debunking something you clearly don't know.
 

Dude653

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Why you bother being in here anyway? Are you a troll can't imagine any other reason for you to be in this topic. You have already made your choice.

There is far more information supporting this conspiracy. And if you were truly an American you would be outraged not debunking something you clearly don't know.

And here we have an example of just what i said...the strawman arguement.....im not a real American because i don't believe a conspiracy theory. there is NO credible evidence supporting these theories
 

un2him

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Why you bother being in here anyway? Are you a troll can't imagine any other reason for you to be in this topic. You have already made your choice.

There is far more information supporting this conspiracy. And if you were truly an American you would be outraged not debunking something you clearly don't know.

And here we have an example of just what i said...the strawman arguement.....im not a real American because i don't believe a conspiracy theory. there is NO credible evidence supporting these theories
That's your opinion sorry about the American jab. I have seen so much credible evidence it just amazes me if anyone really searched this truth out they could be so blind. But here we have you who says all evidence has been debunked and here in a topic about such things which you don't believe in is why I question you being here. Clearly you are a troll for there would be no other motive for you to be having this conversation. I am not surprised . Just disappointed the job you have is a sad one.
 

Dude653

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The thermite...debunked....this was published in total hack publication that will publish any random article they rercieve
The explosive charges...debunked...close inspection of video clearly shows that the buildings were not in a state of free fall as the controlled explosion would suggest
The cut beams were proven to have been cut after the event and during clean up
The explosion on the ground floor was from ignited jet fuel that had spilled down into the elevator shaft, burns on the firemen were consistent with jet fuel burns
Pictures of plane wreckage are documented
Footage shows an object the size of a plane hitting the pentagon. A missile would not have taken out rows of light posts
Simply shredding evidence is a much easier way to dispose of evidence than destroying an entire building where passersby could dig thru the rubble to find it.....
 

Dude653

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Referring to your crack about fat people, there are a variety of reasons why people are fat. It does NOT always come from over-eating. It can be caused by medication, heredity, thyroid or immune imbalances. So to say fat people are fat because they eat too much is totally erroneous..
maybe obesity is a conspiricy
 
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I understand why marketing people design commercials to get me to buy their products. I can choose to believe the ads or I can go to Consumer Reports and view the tests showing the reliability of each particular brand of car or toothpaste or yogurt or house paint and see which is the best.

That is worlds apart from seeking out some internet site where some complete kook tries to tell me aliens killed KFK or a missile struck the Pentagon or Jews blew up the WTC buildings. Those are conspiracy theories that cannot stand up to the least bit of evidence. On this very site, I pointed out the evidence surrounding the theory of a missile striking the Pentagon and as expected, the kooks who believe that conspiracy do not respond to the evidence, they wander off into yet another conspiracy, and then another. They seek out others who are just as disturbed as they are and embrace them and post "likes" each time that fellow conspiracy nut posts a message. They open their computers each day and view mostly sites where they are welcomed by fellow conspiracy nuts. They avoid debates with people who use logic and science to easily refute their false beliefs. They live in a world of make believe. They are mostly dysfunctional people on a social level, with limited friendships outside of the internet. They probably turn to cats and dogs for companionship. Some will post hundreds or thousands of times in a matter of weeks. This has become their purpose in life.

Tell me about this list of conspiracies proven to be true. Is it really a long list? Were they really conspiracies? I'm hoping you can see the difference between a criminal conspiracy as defined by the police, and conspiracy theories so utterly bizarre they defy logic and proven science. Realize there are a growing number of people on these forums in need of mental health treatment, and avoid enabling them to continue drifting further into psychosis.

Well...there was the Tuskogee experiment....Operation Northwoods...The business Plot....and during prohibition alcohol was spiked with poison which led to the deaths of an estimated 10,000 people to prove the danger of alcohol. There are many more and... the word conspiracy shuts your brain off and it is a conspiracy designed to do just that. They don't want you question...only to mock those who do.
 
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Dude653

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There is a physiology behind conspiracy theorists. They tend to be distrustful of others and tend to think they are the only ones who see the world as it truly is. Its a selective scrutiny, ignoring any facts or ideas that do not line up with their pre conceived notions. This belief that the rest of the world are mindless sheep and everyone else is lying is a testament to how delusional and gullible they really are
 
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There is a physiology behind conspiracy theorists. They tend to be distrustful of others and tend to think they are the only ones who see the world as it truly is. Its a selective scrutiny, ignoring any facts or ideas that do not line up with their pre conceived notions. This belief that the rest of the world are mindless sheep and everyone else is lying is a testament to how delusional and gullible they really are
Ya....and those men infected with syphilis thought they were getting adequate treatment but it was withheld so the dept of health and human service could study the disease. Additionally, they were all black men. And furthermore, your whole thought process could be turned right around on you.
 
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