getting dates about a young earth

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kodiak

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In lieu of lip-service...show us your googled YEC link, and defend it...
I said disprove what I have said....I found my information through multiple non YEC sites...
 
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I said disprove what I have said....I found my information through multiple non YEC sites...
How about posting your googled assertion, right here....for the first time...then defend it...
 

kodiak

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How about posting your googled assertion, right here....for the first time...then defend it...
I have already posted them....try doing research on alpha....there is plenty of valid science that proves everything I have said throughout this thread....I have opened up the discussion...it is up to you now. I will not reply again until I find evidence that this is not going to be a 1 sided discussion/interrogation....
 
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What a joke...

I have already posted them....try doing research on alpha....there is plenty of valid science that proves everything I have said throughout this thread....I have opened up the discussion...it is up to you now. I will not reply again until I find evidence that this is not going to be a 1 sided discussion/interrogation....
So...

Look at this, folks...I'm supposed to research 'kodiaks' evidence for him!

Rotflol....!
 
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Tintin

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Bowman, you stand up for the Koran so often, I'm starting to think you're a Muslim pretending to be a Christian. And your hatred for biblical creationists is noted and not very Christian. Grow up. You should've been banned a long time ago.
 
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Bowman, you stand up for the Koran so often, I'm starting to think you're a Muslim pretending to be a Christian.
Studying the Koran has made me a stronger Christian.

Now, I can defend my faith more than ever before when challenged by followers of islam...



And your hatred for biblical creationists is noted and not very Christian. Grow up. You should've been banned a long time ago.
So...

Since, I'm not Jewish, am I also an anti-Semitic and a bigot?

Any other names you want to call me because we share a different worldview?
 

kodiak

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Re: What a joke...

So...

Look at this, folks...I'm supposed to research 'kodiaks' evidence for him!

Rotflol....!
I have given you the information already, you can't prove why it is wrong, so you attack people instead of the evidence. I have done the research myself and tried to discuss this rationally with you, but you refuse....so of course I tell you to research what I have already discussed, because what else am I supposed to do? I can't force you to read what I have written....
 
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Re: What a joke...

I have given you the information already, you can't prove why it is wrong, so you attack people instead of the evidence. I have done the research myself and tried to discuss this rationally with you, but you refuse....so of course I tell you to research what I have already discussed, because what else am I supposed to do? I can't force you to read what I have written....

Researching 'alpha' brings you to a Computational Knowledge Engine....of which, when you type in the phrase 'age of the Universe'....it tells you the answer in billions of years.

Nice try...
 
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Chuckt

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Bowman, you stand up for the Koran so often, I'm starting to think you're a Muslim pretending to be a Christian. And your hatred for biblical creationists is noted and not very Christian. Grow up. You should've been banned a long time ago.
Tintin,

Bowman is not a Muslim.
I have an idea who he is but I am not at liberty to say.
I think he is the best Christian friend that anyone can have if he is the Bowman I know about.
I ask you to give me the benefit of the doubt.
Please be nice to him because I believe we need him very much.

Sincerely,
Your brother in Christ.

Chuck
 
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Gr8grace

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As a defender of YEC, show us where the speed of light has EVER been demonstrated to have changed.

Good luck...
Right between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2. God made it STOP. Perhaps for millions of years.
 

kodiak

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Re: What a joke...

Researching 'alpha' brings you to a Computational Knowledge Engine....of which, when you type in the phrase 'age of the Universe'....it tells you the answer in billions of years.

Nice try...
You really have no clue what I said, do you? Nice try, but still not the right topic....what exactly did I say about alpha earlier in this thread?
It is a constant that isn't constant.....
Alpha defines how elements interact, so the whole periodic table would be messed up. Protons and electrons would interact differently and even light would have been affected. Physics relies on constants remaining constant, so it would affect that too.
A change in alpha apparently would mean the earth wouldn't have existed.

Science has disproved that the laws of psychics stay the same and an evolutionary scientist even did that...you may want to look at my older posts on this thread....
 
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If anyone can prove that 2+3-6= 4 somewhere in the universe, then it could be proved that laws of physics can change, since laws of physics are expressed mathematically.

I suspect some folks are getting confused from the effects of Common Core math.

I more suspect that evolutionists have lost so much ground lately that they interpret math expressions not by rules of math, but by their secular world view.

Let some experts that have eyes opened by Truth (God), like Dr. Jason Lisle, astrophysicist at https://www.icr.org/article/7098

NASA's mostly secularist scientists were recently surprised that the planet Mercury has a magnetic field. If it was aged billions of years there ought not be such a thing there. Our own earth's magnetic field is deteriorating, laws of physics demonstrating this planet can't be at all as old as believed by evolutionists. Of course, with some secularists believing the laws of physics change, the inner earth can forever produce energy such as a magnetic field, while the earth takes in far less energy than released. The notion is absurd, but probably 99% of the world won't hear of it, nor would they care.

The extreme switch in sediment polarity is dated to the 3rd millennium BC, what the Bible tags as Noah's Flood.

Continuing discoveries of blood traces in dinosaur remains should be enough to convince Christians that it is folly to argue with unbelievers who want to place those animals millions of years ago. Dating techniques are manipulated in favor of the evolutionist's bias, that being all they can imagine or comprehend.

You will find plenty of actual science, and Wisdom, at ICR.org (Institute for Creation Research) to settle the issue of evolution and old earth age, then move on to other issues.

The debate is between Children of the Devil and Children of God whether a participant or observer accepts that or not. The great effort is to nullify Genesis as factual since the rest of the Bible is heavily based on Genesis. Endless debating about it takes believers away from the whole. Unfortunately many supposed Christians have been indoctrinated by secular schools many decades, having a limited view of beginnings. They also tend to remain substantially ignorant of Bible truth, having abandoned Genesis already, requiring them to 'jiggle-jaggle' the balance of the word of God. That brings all of it into question for them. Let the ignorant be ignorant.
 
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Tintin

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Tintin,

Bowman is not a Muslim.
I have an idea who he is but I am not at liberty to say.
I think he is the best Christian friend that anyone can have if he is the Bowman I know about.
I ask you to give me the benefit of the doubt.
Please be nice to him because I believe we need him very much.


Sincerely,
Your brother in Christ.

Chuck
D@mn! You have low-standards for Christian friends if you think Bowman is the best one could have. I've given him the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years he's been bullying biblical creationists here at CC and preaching his pro-Muslim teachings. No doubt he has a great grasp of the Trinity, but it takes more than that. I'm not going to be nice to Bowman just because you think we need him very much. I think he could jolly well show some respect. At this present time, methinks you're probably Bowman and that you created another account to drum up support for him. Over and out.
 
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Chuckt

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D@mn! You have low-standards for Christian friends if you think Bowman is the best one could have. I've given him the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years he's been bullying biblical creationists here at CC and preaching his pro-Muslim teachings. No doubt he has a great grasp of the Trinity, but it takes more than that. I'm not going to be nice to Bowman just because you think we need him very much. I think he could jolly well show some respect. At this present time, methinks you're probably Bowman and that you created another account to drum up support for him. Over and out.
I saw him on another forum that I'm not allowed to name because I don't want the owners here to think I'm poaching users. He helped me in witnessing to a Mormon. He has defended the Trinity on another forum and I don't see him as pro-Muslim. His help has been invaluable to me.

All you have to do is ask the administrator on this message forum if we have the same internet address but that doesn't mean a whole lot these days because there are programs that hide your internet address.

If you want people who can vouch for my identity, you can email me and I'll point you in the direction of people who have seen me preach for years on the internet and it won't take you more than a couple of emails to get their attention to know that I'm on the level.
 
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Re: What a joke...

You really have no clue what I said, do you? Nice try, but still not the right topic....what exactly did I say about alpha earlier in this thread?
It is a constant that isn't constant.....
Still waiting for you to directly address me with your so-called evidence...
 
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If anyone can prove that 2+3-6= 4 somewhere in the universe, then it could be proved that laws of physics can change, since laws of physics are expressed mathematically.

I suspect some folks are getting confused from the effects of Common Core math.

I more suspect that evolutionists have lost so much ground lately that they interpret math expressions not by rules of math, but by their secular world view.

Let some experts that have eyes opened by Truth (God), like Dr. Jason Lisle, astrophysicist at https://www.icr.org/article/7098

NASA's mostly secularist scientists were recently surprised that the planet Mercury has a magnetic field. If it was aged billions of years there ought not be such a thing there. Our own earth's magnetic field is deteriorating, laws of physics demonstrating this planet can't be at all as old as believed by evolutionists. Of course, with some secularists believing the laws of physics change, the inner earth can forever produce energy such as a magnetic field, while the earth takes in far less energy than released. The notion is absurd, but probably 99% of the world won't hear of it, nor would they care.

The extreme switch in sediment polarity is dated to the 3rd millennium BC, what the Bible tags as Noah's Flood.

Continuing discoveries of blood traces in dinosaur remains should be enough to convince Christians that it is folly to argue with unbelievers who want to place those animals millions of years ago. Dating techniques are manipulated in favor of the evolutionist's bias, that being all they can imagine or comprehend.

You will find plenty of actual science, and Wisdom, at ICR.org (Institute for Creation Research) to settle the issue of evolution and old earth age, then move on to other issues.

The debate is between Children of the Devil and Children of God whether a participant or observer accepts that or not. The great effort is to nullify Genesis as factual since the rest of the Bible is heavily based on Genesis. Endless debating about it takes believers away from the whole. Unfortunately many supposed Christians have been indoctrinated by secular schools many decades, having a limited view of beginnings. They also tend to remain substantially ignorant of Bible truth, having abandoned Genesis already, requiring them to 'jiggle-jaggle' the balance of the word of God. That brings all of it into question for them. Let the ignorant be ignorant.
When was the last time that anyone at ICR was nominated for a Nobel Prize in physics?
 
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D@mn! You have low-standards for Christian friends if you think Bowman is the best one could have. I've given him the benefit of the doubt for the last couple of years he's been bullying biblical creationists here at CC and preaching his pro-Muslim teachings. No doubt he has a great grasp of the Trinity, but it takes more than that. I'm not going to be nice to Bowman just because you think we need him very much. I think he could jolly well show some respect. At this present time, methinks you're probably Bowman and that you created another account to drum up support for him. Over and out.
Where would these 'pro-Muslim' teachings be, brother?

Provide a clear example for us right now.....or...recant what you know absolutely nothing about...