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Do whatever you need to do, to be the best tool in Gods hand. keep your eyes fixed on Jesus and you will be recreated new.
But make an effort to know you are doing the best you can for God.
1Co_3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Speak to God about it and He will help you.
 
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If I hadn't taken any medication 8 years ago I would of been dead. Sometimes you need man made medication to handle some unnatural disease in your body. Miracles still happen I'm a witness to that. What I did was pray the medication worked for my body so that I could stop suffering.
 
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Before you trust any doctor I first would look him up to see how much payments he has been taking from Big Pharma for being a thought-leader or for any other things. Big Pharma is marketing about 24 billion dollars to doctors and only 4 billion to us and doctors get well rewarded for writing prescription drugs. Lunch is brought in by Big Pharma reps as well to buy their influence.

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/search

But the AMA was brought up......

AMA plans to eliminate chiropractic[edit]


On November 2, 1963, the AMA Board of Regents created the "Committee on Quackery" with the goals of first containing, and then eliminating chiropractic. H. Doyle Taylor, the Director of the AMA Department of Investigation and Secretary of the Committee on Quackery, outlined the steps needed:[SUP][46][/SUP]

  1. to ensure that Medicare should not cover chiropractic
  2. to ensure that the U.S. Office of Education should not recognize or list a chiropractic accrediting agency
  3. to encourage continued separation of the two national associations
  4. to encourage state medical societies to take the initiative in their state legislatures in regard to legislation that might affect the practice of chiropractic.
The AMA worked to spread information designed to discredit chiropractic through public media and the scientific literature.[SUP][46][/SUP]
The longstanding feud between chiropractors and medical doctors continued for decades. The AMA labeled chiropractic an "unscientific cult" in 1966,[SUP][7][/SUP] and until 1980 held that it was unethical for medical doctors to associate with "unscientific practitioners".[SUP][47][/SUP] In 1975, an anonymous AMA insider describing himself as a disgruntled AMA staffer and identifying himself as "Sore Throat" released information concerning the Committee on Quackery and its proposed methods to eliminate chiropractic to the press.[SUP][48][/SUP] These papers were the basis of Wilk et al. vs. AMA, the suit brought by Chester Wilk, D.C., of Illinois and five co-plaintiffs against the AMA and several co-defendants. After two trials, on September 25, 1987, Getzendanner issued her opinion that the AMA had violated Section 1, but not 2, of the Sherman Act, and that it had engaged in an unlawful conspiracy in restraint of trade "to contain and eliminate the chiropractic profession." (Wilk v. American Medical Ass'n, 671 F. Supp. 1465, N.D. Ill. 1987).[SUP][8]

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic

Why would anyone trust the AMA after what happened in 1987 and one chiropractor I know here in Oz, said last year that not much really had changed. He is from the US himself.
Here is list with all the lawsuits that have been settled by Big Pharma so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
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The following is a list of the 20 largest settlements reached between Pundru United States Department of Justice and pharmaceutical companies from 1991 to 2012, ordered by the size of the total settlement. The settlement amount includes both the civil (False Claims Act) settlement and criminal fine. Glaxo's $3 billion settlement included the largest civil, False Claims Act settlement on record,[SUP][1][/SUP] and Pfizer’s $2.3 billion settlement including a record-breaking $1.3 billion criminal fine.[SUP][2][/SUP] Legal claims against the pharmaceutical industry have varied widely over the past two decades, including Medicare and Medicaid fraud, off-labelpromotion, and inadequate manufacturing practices.[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP] With respect to off-label promotion, specifically, a federal court recognized off-label promotion as a violation of the False Claims Act for the first time in Franklin v. Parke-Davis, leading to a $430 million settlement.[SUP][5][/SUP]
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[TD]2012[/TD]
[TD]GlaxoSmithKline[SUP][1][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$3 billion ($1B criminal, $2B civil)[/TD]
[TD]Criminal: Off-label promotion, failure to disclose safety data.
Civil: paying kickbacks to physicians, making false and misleading
statements concerning the safety of Avandia, reporting false best
prices and underpaying rebates owed under the Medicaid Drug Rebate Program[/TD]
[TD]Avandia, Wellbutrin,
Paxil, Advair,
Lamictal, Zofran,
Imitrex, Lotronex,
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[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
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[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]Pfizer[SUP][2][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$2.3 billion[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Bextra/Geodon/
Zyvox/Lyrica[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2013[/TD]
[TD]Johnson & Johnson[SUP][6][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$2.2 billion[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Risperdal/Invega/
Nesiritide[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]2012[/TD]
[TD]Abbott Laboratories[SUP][7][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$1.5 billion[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[/TD]
[TD]Depakote[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
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[TD]2009[/TD]
[TD]Eli Lilly[SUP][8][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$1.4 billion[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[/TD]
[TD]Zyprexa[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
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[TD]2001[/TD]
[TD]TAP Pharmaceutical Products[SUP][9][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$875 million[/TD]
[TD]Medicare fraud/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Lupron[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/
Prescription Drug Marketing Act[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2012[/TD]
[TD]Amgen[SUP][10][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$762 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Aranesp[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD]GlaxoSmithKline[SUP][11][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$750 million[/TD]
[TD]Poor manufacturing practices[/TD]
[TD]Kytril/Bactroban/
Paxil CR/Avandamet[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2005[/TD]
[TD]Serono[SUP][12][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$704 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/monopoly practices[/TD]
[TD]Serostim[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]Merck[SUP][13][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$650 million[/TD]
[TD]Medicare fraud/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Zocor/Vioxx/Pepsid[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/
Medicaid Rebate Statute[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]Purdue Pharma[SUP][14][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$601 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[/TD]
[TD]Oxycontin[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD]Allergan[SUP][15][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$600 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[/TD]
[TD]Botox[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
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[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD]AstraZeneca[SUP][16][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$520 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Seroquel[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2007[/TD]
[TD]Bristol-Myers Squibb[SUP][17][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$515 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/Medicare fraud[/TD]
[TD]Abilify/Serzone[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2002[/TD]
[TD]Schering-Plough[SUP][18][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$500 million[/TD]
[TD]Poor manufacturing practices[/TD]
[TD]Claritin[/TD]
[TD]FDA Current
Good Manufacturing Practices[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2006[/TD]
[TD]Schering-Plough[SUP][19][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$435 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/
kickbacks/Medicare fraud[/TD]
[TD]Temodar/ Intron A/K-Dur/
Claritin RediTabs[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]Pfizer[SUP][20][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$430 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[/TD]
[TD]Neurontin[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]Cephalon[SUP][21][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$425 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion[SUP][22][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]Actiq/Gabitril/Provigil[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2010[/TD]
[TD]Novartis[SUP][23][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$423 million[/TD]
[TD]Off-label promotion/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Trileptal[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/FDCA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2003[/TD]
[TD]AstraZeneca[SUP][24][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$355 million[/TD]
[TD]Medicare fraud[/TD]
[TD]Zoladex[/TD]
[TD]Prescription Drug Marketing Act[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]Schering-Plough[SUP][25][/SUP][/TD]
[TD]$345 million[/TD]
[TD]Medicare fraud/kickbacks[/TD]
[TD]Claritin[/TD]
[TD]False Claims Act/
Anti-Kickback Statute[/TD]
[/TR]
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And if anyone thinks, that they has meds that can help the mind, has better to start carefully rethinking their ways. Because not even the military doctors doesn't trust them and so why should we have trust in these meds. And if you has meds to help get rid of an infection, you most likely were given an antibiotic and which most has occurred from nature.




Some of the reason that the military rejects potential recruits—obesity, illegal drug use—reflect concerns about combat readiness. But the military also rejects recruits who have used Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) medication within the past year. Whether this restriction makes scientific sense or whether it's a case of unwarranted exclusion isn't so clear. It does, however, belie the military's mixed history with the medications.

It's too bad that such restrictions are in place, because military service is often an excellent option for people with ADD/ADHD. After all, many people with ADD/ADHD do well in highly structured environments and thrive on activity. It's hard to imagine an environment that provides more structure and activity than military service.


But from the Pentagon's perspective, being dependent on medication is risky: restrictions also apply to diabetics who need regular insulin, for example.Stiil, over past decades, the Pentagon's restrictions on people who have use anti-ADHD drugs like Ritalin and Adderall have slackened. Back in 1996, says the Sun Sentinel, the Pentagon would reject anyone who had taken Ritalin for more than a year past age 12. Now, the restriction only stands if the the person used the drugs within the past year, or “if he or she displays "significant" evidence of ADD/ADHD symptoms, such as impulsivity and distractibility,” says ADDitiude Magazine.



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If I hadn't taken any medication 8 years ago I would of been dead. Sometimes you need man made medication to handle some unnatural disease in your body. Miracles still happen I'm a witness to that. What I did was pray the medication worked for my body so that I could stop suffering.
There's a lot of meds that are good for the body, but there are some that aren't any good at all. But then instead of taking meds to cover up the pain, that they should look for the source that is causing these ailments and get rid of it. it says that whatever God had created, that it is good, not bad for us. And so someone else must of had created something.
 
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Frankincense and myrrh were used for various health problems too. That's why the Israelites had plenty for their stay in the wilderness to use on the altar too.
Yes, those meds occurred from nature. Like there are a lot of good herbs that does better than its man-made counterpart; like this herb, it is an natural diuretic, that work a lot better than the man made and doesn't makes the urine turn blue. There a lot of natural herbs that does well and that the medical associations just take these herbs and turn them into medications to make a profit but doesn't tell you where the source has came from and give it a disguise name so that they will never uncovered it.

"Buchu" redirects here. For the onion-related plant called "Buchu" in Korean, see Garlic chives. For the character in Yie Ar Kung-Fu, see Yie Ar Kung-Fu § Characters.
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They are small shrubs and subshrubs, mostly with erect woody stems reaching 30–100 cm tall, but low-growing and prostrate in some species. The leaves are usually opposite, ericoid, often crowded, simple, entire, from 0.5-3.5 cm long. The flowers are produced in terminal clusters, 0.7–2 cm diameter, with five white, pink, red or purple, petals.
Many of the species are highly aromatic, and the genus name means "good fragrance". Some species of the genus are used as herbalremedies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agathosma
 
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4enlightenment: Much of modern medicine IS based on nature

like penicillin
 

JaumeJ

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Aspirin is another example of this imitating an ingredient of willow bark......

4enlightenment: Much of modern medicine IS based on nature

like penicillin
 

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Before I was 16 I had broken my back in six places. It was not so bad then, but in later years it has come back to give me pain from time to time. Ibuprofen has helped me lots, actually picking me up off of the floor.
 
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Until Its time for the harvest,do not stop taking your medication.

I mean that It will take faith(talking about believing the WORD of GOD) to heal and If your faith Is not strong enough,then will-power Is not going to work.

Also John inspired by GOD said,above all I want you to prosper and be In health even as your soul prospers.
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Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD.
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Mark 4:23-29
King James Version(KJV)

23.)If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.

24.)And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

25.)For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.

26.)And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;

27.)And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.

28.)For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.

29.)But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.
 

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It has been my experience in Jesus Christ when a person is healed by faith it is because one way or another that person is brought to someone else who pronounces the healing by the Holy Spirit.

I have read of no accounts in the Word of a person heling himself, though I know God can do anything if it pleases Him

Abraham and Jacob were almost blind in their waning years,. Isaac may have been also. No matter, none were healed of their dimmed vision, yet they had faith. We are called by the faith of Abraham.

These men were not lacking faith, yet they accepted their dimming vision as just part of the corruption that is of this aged, knowing they would one day see again with perfect vision.

For me any illness in later years is just a reminder of what we are leaving and where we are going. I try to always thank our Father for these reminders, and I have been blessed in so doing. Praise God, now and forever, amen.

Medication is not a sin, and when medication works well, this is from God, not from man.
 
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Before you trust any doctor I first would look him up to see how much payments he has been taking from Big Pharma for being a thought-leader or for any other things. Big Pharma is marketing about 24 billion dollars to doctors and only 4 billion to us and doctors get well rewarded for writing prescription drugs. Lunch is brought in by Big Pharma reps as well to buy their influence.

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/search

But the AMA was brought up......

AMA plans to eliminate chiropractic[edit]


On November 2, 1963, the AMA Board of Regents created the "Committee on Quackery" with the goals of first containing, and then eliminating chiropractic. H. Doyle Taylor, the Director of the AMA Department of Investigation and Secretary of the Committee on Quackery, outlined the steps needed:[SUP][46][/SUP]

  1. to ensure that Medicare should not cover chiropractic
  2. to ensure that the U.S. Office of Education should not recognize or list a chiropractic accrediting agency
  3. to encourage continued separation of the two national associations
  4. to encourage state medical societies to take the initiative in their state legislatures in regard to legislation that might affect the practice of chiropractic.
The AMA worked to spread information designed to discredit chiropractic through public media and the scientific literature.[SUP][46][/SUP]
The longstanding feud between chiropractors and medical doctors continued for decades. The AMA labeled chiropractic an "unscientific cult" in 1966,[SUP][7][/SUP] and until 1980 held that it was unethical for medical doctors to associate with "unscientific practitioners".[SUP][47][/SUP] In 1975, an anonymous AMA insider describing himself as a disgruntled AMA staffer and identifying himself as "Sore Throat" released information concerning the Committee on Quackery and its proposed methods to eliminate chiropractic to the press.[SUP][48][/SUP] These papers were the basis of Wilk et al. vs. AMA, the suit brought by Chester Wilk, D.C., of Illinois and five co-plaintiffs against the AMA and several co-defendants. After two trials, on September 25, 1987, Getzendanner issued her opinion that the AMA had violated Section 1, but not 2, of the Sherman Act, and that it had engaged in an unlawful conspiracy in restraint of trade "to contain and eliminate the chiropractic profession." (Wilk v. American Medical Ass'n, 671 F. Supp. 1465, N.D. Ill. 1987).[SUP][8]

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chiropractic

Why would anyone trust the AMA after what happened in 1987 and one chiropractor I know here in Oz, said last year that not much really had changed. He is from the US himself.
Here is list with all the lawsuits that have been settled by Big Pharma so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements
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big drug companies dont make as much with the chiropractors, its easy to see how they would come after them hard with both barrels.
 
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In the West we have replaced God, with our own "gods" so to speak:

YAHWEH-JIREH: "The Lord Will Provide". A lot of us have replaced Him with the banks

YAHWEH-RAPHA: "The Lord Who Heals. A lot of us have replaced Him with doctors

YAHWEH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace". A lot of people have replaced him with their shrink.

etc etc

That's why we find God much more at work in the poor countries, through Christians, that don't have a bank, a doctor or a shrink on every corner as some have to walk four days to get anywhere. These Christians have faith, well, to be honest, they need to have faith or they miss out and things are often a matter or life or death there.

So God rewards their faith and that most miracles happen there we all know and that is because of their faith. We can learn from that a lot and admire that and grow and try to step out ourselves in standing on His Word and trusting what he says as He is no Man that can lie.

There is no condemnation though for those in Christ Jesus, so even if you feel the need to take petro chemicals meds or non toxic meds that God gave us through nature, don't take it as rebuke but rather as an encouragement, just like when Jesus said to His disciples that they could not heal the boy because of their lack of faith in Matthew 17:20

If we are honest we should acknowledge that the Western church as a whole ia far from the church in the New Testament these days. We only see here and there in the West churches that experience Acts in their midst. But I believe it is growing and the earth is groaining and waiting for the appearance of the sons of God it says. The Kingdom of heaven suffers violence and violent men take it by force. Let's expand His Kingdom and do His will on earth! It has never grown that fast as today as He promsed in Daniel 2, the rock that crushed the statue would grow out into a big mountain, the reign would be on His shoulders and His Kingdom is an ever increasing Kingdom :) It came 2000 years ago.

Mathew 16:28 "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

We are sons of God, co-heirs with Christ, the light of this world, one in spirit with Him, ambassadors, kings and priest, seated in heavenly places with Him!
Wow To think. Western civilization is stronger than God.
 
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Well, it seem as if you need another doctor, because your health is not improving. You are talking to someone that is a lot older than you that doesn't has no ill effects at all. Jogs for miles and doesn't get tired, and not a single wrinkle or blemish spot on my body. I believe and trust in God whole-heartedly.

[video]https://youtu.be/mCBHjJ3SsN4[/video]
We're not in high school anymore, so ten years isn't "a lot older than you." And since Lost Sheep hasn't spent his life looking up conspiracy theories, he's more educated than you.

And you have one huge "ill effect" but simply ignore it.
 
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Keep on preaching from that stump. How's it working out for you?
Lost, a favor to ask, and you don't owe me any favors, so don't feel obliged to do it. What "enlightenment" is doing is called SEO -- Search Engine Optimizing. It's a way to bring certain sites up to the top of the search engine results page. It's easy. Post a link to the site you want to be noticed on multiple opened sites, (sites that search engines can see), with some keywords in the text. Do that often enough and search engines think everyone is talking about that site, so it rises in popularity.

So what is it you're doing that I'm asking you to reconsider? When you post a reply with his link then that counts as two hits, not merely one. If everyone does that, then Enlighten's links get double duty. So, if you want to respond to Enlighten, feel free, but don't include the "Reply with Quotes" choice, because that's exactly what he wants you to do to advertise his spam.

And this really is nothing but advertising for free by now, which is really supposed to be bannable.
 
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Yes, those meds occurred from nature.
Oh pleease! Poison ivy, arsenic, and cyanide all occur in nature too.

Would you eat Russian Sage, since it's a member of the sage family? I don't recommend it. It's poisonous. I'm getting out the hip boots! It's piling up again.
 
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I hear people say stuff like that all the time, but the truth is, you only know the outcome of the path you took.
Actually, I'm living that path now. I've been taking statins because my triglycerides are off the charts. My husband didn't. He got the heart attack last November (clogged arteries) and is still fighting just to put something tasty in his mouth again. (He was sedated for 8 weeks, so lost most muscle function, including his swallower, so the hospital is hesitating to let him swallow again.) So really? The other path is obvious sometimes.
 
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Lost, a favor to ask, and you don't owe me any favors, so don't feel obliged to do it. What "enlightenment" is doing is called SEO -- Search Engine Optimizing. It's a way to bring certain sites up to the top of the search engine results page. It's easy. Post a link to the site you want to be noticed on multiple opened sites, (sites that search engines can see), with some keywords in the text. Do that often enough and search engines think everyone is talking about that site, so it rises in popularity.

So what is it you're doing that I'm asking you to reconsider? When you post a reply with his link then that counts as two hits, not merely one. If everyone does that, then Enlighten's links get double duty. So, if you want to respond to Enlighten, feel free, but don't include the "Reply with Quotes" choice, because that's exactly what he wants you to do to advertise his spam.

And this really is nothing but advertising for free by now, which is really supposed to be bannable.
There is a lot of internet trolls that has gotten the job from answering the ads about to work from your home ads and which a lot of them doesn't give a darn about people's lives but themselves, that is pretending on this site that they are Christians but are not but deceiving spirits and they are doing what their father's desires. What I had posted are from legitimate sites, and you can check to see. By you trying to spread deception has let me know what kind of person that you are.

Proverbs 6:13 who winks maliciously with his eye, signals with his feet and motions with his fingers,

Proverbs 16:30 Whoever winks with their eye is plotting perversity; whoever purses their lips is bent on evil.
 
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Oh pleease! Poison ivy, arsenic, and cyanide all occur in nature too.

Would you eat Russian Sage, since it's a member of the sage family? I don't recommend it. It's poisonous. I'm getting out the hip boots! It's piling up again.
It is all about balance; like this guy is immune to snake poison because he has the right balance of chemistry that help protect his body from snake venom.




Milwaukee man who claims to be immune to venom has survived bites from 100 poisonous snakes - including the deadly black mamba


Man claims snake bite immunity after injecting venom | Daily Mail Online


And here's another study that was done by an university that claimed that there are differences between a crop or animal that was raised naturally in an natural environment and from the ones that are raised in a factory style environment.

[h=1]Study finds clear differences between organic and non-organic products[/h]Published on: 16 February 2016
[FONT=droid_sansregular]A new study has shown that both organic milk and meat contain around 50% more beneficial omega-3 fatty acids than conventionally produced products. Organic and non-organic milk and meat - Press Office - Newcastle University



And so you can keep on thinking that you know so much, but God is here to bring in all truth to everything; He doesn't keep His children in the dark.[/FONT]