Why the king james?

[John146]

But what does this mean when comparing the differences in the versions? With over 100 versions saying different things, even holding different truths?

There still may be five words with like meanings. Which will I pick? hmmmm? Every single word of God is important. It's not just the meaning or intent.

ummm....really not wanting to be rude here, but do you understand what the word 'context' means?

it means to gain understanding from whatever else leads up to and away from the focus of anything...conversation and certainly scripture included

for example, if I take YOUR words OUT of context, I will be putting a DIFFERENT meaning on them then what you had actually intended

in the same way, if a person takes a verse OUT of context...that is OUT of the framework of understanding that defines it, a different meaning can be placed upon it

in fact, that is usually the reason people take a verse out of context...they want to prove THEIR point or understanding to the detriment of or ignoring of, what the verse is actually stating

disclaimer: simply explaining the word context...please do not take my words out of context!

 

[phil112]

But what does this mean when comparing the differences in the versions? With over 100 versions saying different things, even holding different truths?

There still may be five words with like meanings. Which will I pick? hmmmm? Every single word of God is important. It's not just the meaning or intent.

Seriously?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

But what does this mean when comparing the differences in the versions? With over 100 versions saying different things, even holding different truths?

There still may be five words with like meanings. Which will I pick? hmmmm? Every single word of God is important. It's not just the meaning or intent.

so then which "Interpretation " do we use?

If we pick one over the other, and get it wrong. then have we not imposed our will on Gods will?

And I am sorry, I have read many passages in many bibles. and they are not that different, thats just a copout..

 

[ember]

 

[seed_time_harvest]

My NASB is so worn out that the pages are falling out..so I'll have to do something soon to replace it...

Here is a great Greek source for scriptures..breaks the scripture it down and we just have to put in the scripture reference in at the top and we are good to go...great on-line resource...I'm sure you have a good one too...

Luke 17:21 Interlinear: nor shall they say, Lo, here; or lo, there; for lo, the reign of God is within you.'

I use a small bible(kjv) that I always carry In my front pocket and when the pages fall out,i use a toothpick and all purpose glue to glue the page(s) back onto the bind.

I do still use the niv,for clarity,I like the footnotes.

 

[Grace777x70]

Cool...I'll try that with my pages..thanks!

I use a small bible(kjv) that I always carry In my front pocket and when the pages fall out,i use a toothpick and all purpose glue to glue the page(s) back onto the bind.

I do still use the niv,for clarity,I like the footnotes.

 

[Beloved777]

You want a great translation? Check out The Geneva Bible.

 

[John146]

God said He would preserve His pure words(plural), without mixture, for all generations. Do you believe Him? Where are they? Words(plural) are important to God. "How sweet are thy words unto my taste." ​Words are sweet, not intent.

Seriously?

 

[John146]

When God speaks, He wants people to hear all His words, not a revised, altered, edited, watered-down, abbreviated version. In Jeremiah 26:2 God told Jeremiah to "...stand in the court of the Lord's house, and speak unto all the cities of Judah, which come to worship in the LORD'S house, all the words that I command thee to speak unto them; diminish not a word:" Most people did not want to hear what God said, but God wanted them to hear it anyway. If Jeremiah toned down the message to make it easier, more acceptable to men, it would not have been acceptable to God. God did not want Jeremiah changing not one word.

 

[ember]

are you able to check all the other languages that the KJVmight be translated into?

seems that if you are so concerned about all these errors, you might give consideration to the thousands of languages throughout the world

understanding that errors will begin to multiply exponentially, the task would be enormous

scribes back in the day, had task that would appear to be impossible to most people today..as copying manuscripts was the norm, errors were known to happen

 

[Agricola]

Ah there's that Cherry picked verse again, good old Psalm 12v6 " The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."

King James Only Cult have Cherry picked this verse and found 6 other English versions of the Bible before King James and claim that this verse means the King James Bible. Of course the foolishness of this is lost on the cult as there were more than 7 English versions before the King James, again they just manipulate the Bible sequence in order to prove this is right. They also forget that plenty of other languages also have numerous versions of the Bible, how do we know this verse does not apply to a Chinese version in the future? Germanic versions have an equally valid claim to fit this bizarre theory.

 

[John146]

I guess people won't be happy until all the KJV crowd submits to the idea that there is no final authority that we can trust to be God's words.

I can't imagine reading a so called Holy Bible and not having 100% trust in what I'm reading to be true.

 

[ember]

I guess people won't be happy until all the KJV crowd submits to the idea that there is no final authority that we can trust to be God's words.

I can't imagine reading a so called Holy Bible and not having 100% trust in what I'm reading to be true.

Well there's the difference

You see, you are depending on a Bible printed by a machine and translated by human beings. Whether or not you like that idea, that is what you have in your hands

Understanding that the KJV is a translation and not inspired does not put down the KJV and no one is doing that

I trust God will lead and direct me by His Spirit. I grew up on the KJV but I use other translations as well. I have no discomfort going between them and yes, I do compare them

You do have, apparently, trust in a Bible translated by human beings just like all the other versions

There is a difference between depending on the Holy Spirit to lead you into truth and leaning on your own understanding of the Bible

I doubt you have all understanding of scripture. I don't believe that anyone does. In any version

end of convo for me

over and out

 

[fredoheaven]

Fundamental Principles to Avoid Bible Issue Confusion

1. That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. 1 Cor 2:5
2. . . . received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily --Acts 17:11
3. All scripture is . . . profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction . . . --2 Tim 3:16
4. That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. -- 2 Tim 3:17
5. And the word of the LORD was precious in those days; there was no open vision. 1 Sam. 3:1
6 . . . . the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground. -- 1 Sam 3:19
7 . . . . the HOLY scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation . . . -- 2 Tm 3:15
8 . . . . thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. -- Psa. 138:21
9 . . . . he that HATH my word, let him speak my word faithfully. -- Jer. 23:28

The Purity and Truth of the Scriptures

1. The words of the LORD are pure words tried in a furnace . . . purified seven times. -- Ps. 119:40
2 . . . . true from the beginning and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. -- Psa 119:160
3. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. -- Pro. 30:5

 

[fredoheaven]

The Inspiration of the Scriptures

1. All scripture IS given by inspiration of God, and IS profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. -- 2 Tim. 3:16, 17
2. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. -- 2 Pet 1:21
3. . . . this word came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel . . . Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah: and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the LORD, which he had spoken unto him, upon a roll of a book. -- Jer 36:1-4
4. Then took Jeremiah another roll, and gave it to Baruch the scribe, the son of Neriah; who wrote therein from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire: and there were added besides unto them many like words. -- Jer. 36:32

 

[fredoheaven]

The Preservation of the Scripures

1. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. -- Psa 12:7
2. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. -- Ps. 119:89
3. Thy word IS very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it. -- Ps. 119:140
4. Thy word IS true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever -- Ps 119:160
5. . . . the word of our God shall stand for ever. Isa 40:8
6. . . . my words . . . shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever. --Isa 59:21
7 . . . . he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. -- Jer. 23:28
8. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice . . . -- Heb 3:7
9. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever . . . the word of the Lord endureth for ever. -- 1 Pet 1:23-25
10. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. -- Matt. 24:35
11. . . . unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; -- John 10:35
12. Preach the word . . . reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. -- 2 Tim 4:2
13. . . . they have kept thy word. -- John 17:6
14. . . . blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. -- Rev 22:7

 

[fredoheaven]

Warnings to the Brethren Regarding Bible Correctors

1. . . . if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. -- Isa 8:20
2. I am against the prophets . . . that steal my words every one from his neighbour. -- Jer 23:30
3. . . . ye have perverted the words of the living God . . . -- Jer 23:36-38
4. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition . . . -- Mark 7:13
5. He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. -- John 12:48
6. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings . . . -- John 14:24
7. For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God . . . -- 2 Cor. 2:17
8. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. -- Pro 30:6
9. Ye shall not add unto the word . . . neither shall ye diminish ought from it . . . -- Deut. 4:2
10. Knowing this . . . no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. -- 2 Pet 1:20
11. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; -- 1 Tim 6:3
12. . . . some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. -- 2 Pet 3:16
13. . . . If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. -- Rev. 22:18, 19

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I guess people won't be happy until all the KJV crowd submits to the idea that there is no final authority that we can trust to be God's words.

I can't imagine reading a so called Holy Bible and not having 100% trust in what I'm reading to be true.

You poor person.

You lack trust in the HS and God to preserve his word in people. Yet give power and invincibility to some men in the 1600's..

That to me is pretty blasphemous.

 

[John146]

Ok then, I guess every word of my Bible, the KJV, is right and pure because I have read it many many times and not once has the Holy Spirit stopped me to point out an error.

I've put my trust that God has preserved His words in a book, Scripture. I don't trust the men back in 1611, just like I don't trust Moses, David, Jeremiah, John, Paul etc...They were not inspired, but the words were inspired. When they wrote the words, they were preserving them God's inspired Scripture. That's what preservation is all about.

You poor person.

You lack trust in the HS and God to preserve his word in people. Yet give power and invincibility to some men in the 1600's..

That to me is pretty blasphemous.

 

[gb9]

sounds more like idolatry to me. worshiping a book instead of the God that the book is from and about. having proper understanding?? only if it is written in middle English, according to them!