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paul speaking to the Galatian church so I would assume he is speaking to believers says this
galatians 5:19-21" The acts of the sinful nature are obvious : sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery, idolatry and witchcraft hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissentions, factions, and envy ; drunkenness, orgies and the like. I warn you as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."
this is between paul saying Live by the spirit, and you will not gratify the sinful nature.......and then he gives the fruits of the spirit after explaining very straight forward, or rather warning that to live a sinful life will keep you from the inheritance. the fruits of the spirit love, joy, peace. patience , kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control...against such things there is no law.he then says that those who belong to Christ have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."
so just from these few verses made plain in his wording, not to be negated without dismissing everything else he wrote by the spirit of God....isn't it really a very clear settlement that sin is serious business to get out of in our lives? now, as a lot of threads do, I hope not to begin the same debate. to be very clear this isn't aimed at anyone, I hope these scriptures don't make you stumble or fall or lose faith. but there are many more to be found like these I believe fully in Grace, all of it is by faith in what God has done for us, even repentance is something he gives us the strength for. but anyone who thinks ( and again I have never heard anyone on this site claim this but have in the world) anyone who thinks that its alright to go on living as sinners and claiming no condemnation, I pray would accept the many scriptures regarding what is expected of us, because of the great purchase made by God with the precious blood of Jesus Christ.
One of the things this changed, is our motivation. He suffered and died so that we can have righteousness 1ptr 2:24. romans 6. to take lightly His sacrifice and freely go on doing the things that put him on the cross, should at the least bring shame that would lead to repentance. I am ashamed of the things I used to do and take pleasure in, and I am so thankful for that shame that helps to keep me from even considering going back to who I was.
if you read on in galatians I believe ch6 it is stated " do not be deceived a man reaps what he sows he who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction and he who sows to please the spirit will reap eternal life." ( not word for word but I'm sure u know or can find it ch6 galatians. these are pretty straight forward and to me say in no meek terms that we indeed are responsible for our actions. God bless you. all this said, there is always forgiveness and also restoration when the knowledge of righteousness comes. just food for thought not arguing with anyones theology or anything, holiness needs to be talked about, because it is where we are meant to Live and have our being
galatians 5:19-21" The acts of the sinful nature are obvious : sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery, idolatry and witchcraft hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissentions, factions, and envy ; drunkenness, orgies and the like. I warn you as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God."
this is between paul saying Live by the spirit, and you will not gratify the sinful nature.......and then he gives the fruits of the spirit after explaining very straight forward, or rather warning that to live a sinful life will keep you from the inheritance. the fruits of the spirit love, joy, peace. patience , kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control...against such things there is no law.he then says that those who belong to Christ have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."
so just from these few verses made plain in his wording, not to be negated without dismissing everything else he wrote by the spirit of God....isn't it really a very clear settlement that sin is serious business to get out of in our lives? now, as a lot of threads do, I hope not to begin the same debate. to be very clear this isn't aimed at anyone, I hope these scriptures don't make you stumble or fall or lose faith. but there are many more to be found like these I believe fully in Grace, all of it is by faith in what God has done for us, even repentance is something he gives us the strength for. but anyone who thinks ( and again I have never heard anyone on this site claim this but have in the world) anyone who thinks that its alright to go on living as sinners and claiming no condemnation, I pray would accept the many scriptures regarding what is expected of us, because of the great purchase made by God with the precious blood of Jesus Christ.
One of the things this changed, is our motivation. He suffered and died so that we can have righteousness 1ptr 2:24. romans 6. to take lightly His sacrifice and freely go on doing the things that put him on the cross, should at the least bring shame that would lead to repentance. I am ashamed of the things I used to do and take pleasure in, and I am so thankful for that shame that helps to keep me from even considering going back to who I was.
if you read on in galatians I believe ch6 it is stated " do not be deceived a man reaps what he sows he who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction and he who sows to please the spirit will reap eternal life." ( not word for word but I'm sure u know or can find it ch6 galatians. these are pretty straight forward and to me say in no meek terms that we indeed are responsible for our actions. God bless you. all this said, there is always forgiveness and also restoration when the knowledge of righteousness comes. just food for thought not arguing with anyones theology or anything, holiness needs to be talked about, because it is where we are meant to Live and have our being